Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional
Dear Debian:
I tried to remove the transitional package kdebase-runtime, and got a shock when it proposed removing a number of packages, some important [1]. I checked the bugs for a few of them, and no report has been filed. I should do so, but really don't look forward to doing the same report thirteen times. Can I just file them against the kde package, or is there some straightforward way to file one report against multiple packages, or do I just plan to spend some quality time with cut & paste? -- Best wishes, Max Hyre [1] This may not be complete: it's just those in my /var/lib/dpkg/available file, which does not contain all packages. Package: knotes Package: polkit-kde-1 Package: libsmokekdeui4-3 Package: kaddressbook Package: kmail Package: korganizer Package: akregator Package: libsmokekdecore4-3 Package: hplip-gui Package: kdepim-runtime Package: kdebase-workspace-bin Package: k3b Package: hannah-foo2zjs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: 4F750456.3040105@hyre.net">http://lists.debian.org/4F750456.3040105@hyre.net |
Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:54:46 -0400, Max Hyre wrote:
> I tried to remove the transitional package kdebase-runtime, Can you post/upload the exact command you used (how did you manage to remove tha package), what was the output you got and what's in your "sources.list"? > and got a shock when it proposed removing a number of packages, some > important [1]. > > I checked the bugs for a few of them, and no report has been > filed. I should do so, but really don't look forward to doing the same > report thirteen times. Can I just file them against the kde package, or > is there some straightforward way to file one report against multiple > packages, or do I just plan to spend some quality time with cut & paste? In the event there's something wrong, filling a bug report won't harm: if you are between a packaging transition (update) the bug will be discarded and you'll only lose a bit of time :-). I would open agaisnt the transitional package "kdebase-runtime". Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: jl4frh$8pu$6@dough.gmane.org">http://lists.debian.org/jl4frh$8pu$6@dough.gmane.org |
Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional
Hi Max!
I added debian-kde to Cc as there are members of the Debian Qt/KDE packing team subcribed to, while I am not sure whether any of them are subscribed to debian-user. Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb Max Hyre: > Dear Debian: > > I tried to remove the transitional package kdebase-runtime, and > got a shock when it proposed removing a number of packages, some > important [1]. > > I checked the bugs for a few of them, and no report has been > filed. I should do so, but really don't look forward to doing the > same report thirteen times. Can I just file them against the kde > package, or is there some straightforward way to file one report > against multiple packages, or do I just plan to spend some quality > time with cut & paste? I suggest you get in contact with the Debian Qt/KDE team on IRC or their mailing list. Or on debian-kde mailinglist that I added to Cc. KDE 4.7.4 SC just transitioned to Wheezy. And AFAIK only in KDE 4.7.4 SC kde-runtime replaced kdebase-runtime. It might just be that the Qt/KDE team is aware of the situation and it will take some more time to fix all those packages. I have seen scripted mass bug reporting in the past as well. Anyway, I would first just ask whether the team is aware of the situation and needs a bug report at all. In the meanwhile just don´t remove that package ;). Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: 201203301646.38805.Martin@lichtvoll.de">http://lists.debian.org/201203301646.38805.Martin@lichtvoll.de |
Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional
Hi Max!
I added debian-kde to Cc as there are members of the Debian Qt/KDE packing team subcribed to, while I am not sure whether any of them are subscribed to debian-user. Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb Max Hyre: > Dear Debian: > > I tried to remove the transitional package kdebase-runtime, and > got a shock when it proposed removing a number of packages, some > important [1]. > > I checked the bugs for a few of them, and no report has been > filed. I should do so, but really don't look forward to doing the > same report thirteen times. Can I just file them against the kde > package, or is there some straightforward way to file one report > against multiple packages, or do I just plan to spend some quality > time with cut & paste? I suggest you get in contact with the Debian Qt/KDE team on IRC or their mailing list. Or on debian-kde mailinglist that I added to Cc. KDE 4.7.4 SC just transitioned to Wheezy. And AFAIK only in KDE 4.7.4 SC kde-runtime replaced kdebase-runtime. It might just be that the Qt/KDE team is aware of the situation and it will take some more time to fix all those packages. I have seen scripted mass bug reporting in the past as well. Anyway, I would first just ask whether the team is aware of the situation and needs a bug report at all. In the meanwhile just don´t remove that package ;). Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: 201203301646.38805.Martin@lichtvoll.de">http://lists.debian.org/201203301646.38805.Martin@lichtvoll.de |
Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional
On 03/30/2012 10:46 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
[...] I suggest you get in contact with the Debian Qt/KDE team on IRC or their mailing list. Or on debian-kde mailinglist that I added to Cc. OK, I'll ask there. KDE 4.7.4 SC just transitioned to Wheezy. [....] It might just be > that the Qt/KDE team is aware of the situation > and it will take some more time to fix all those packages. For some reason, it didn't occur to me that this might be a transitory state. I am following unstable, after all. In the meanwhile just don´t remove that package ;). Yeah, that's what I figured. :-) -- Best wishes, Max Hyre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: 4F762A07.3080903@hyre.net">http://lists.debian.org/4F762A07.3080903@hyre.net |
Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional
On 03/30/2012 10:26 AM, Camaleón wrote:
[....] Can you post/upload the exact command you used (how did you manage to remove tha package) [....] I was using synaptic. I marked kdebase-runtime for ``complete removal' (purging), and was presented with the list of packages see my earlier e-mail) to be removed as a result. I just repeated it, and now, instead of thirteen packages, it wants to ditch 27 (list available on request :-). I presume the difference is that I dist-upgraded in between---I'm following unstable. After a bit of poking around, I decided that the better part of valor was to not remove it. :-) I would open agaisnt the transitional package "kdebase-runtime". Ah, that makes the most sense to me, thanks. -- Best wishes, Max Hyre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: 4F762CEC.8050700@hyre.net">http://lists.debian.org/4F762CEC.8050700@hyre.net |
Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional
Hi,
Alle venerdì 30 marzo 2012, Martin Steigerwald ha scritto: > I added debian-kde to Cc as there are members of the Debian Qt/KDE > packing team subcribed to, while I am not sure whether any of them > are subscribed to debian-user. > > Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb Max Hyre: > > Dear Debian: > > > > I tried to remove the transitional package kdebase-runtime, and > > > > got a shock when it proposed removing a number of packages, some > > important [1]. > > > > I checked the bugs for a few of them, and no report has been > > > > filed. I should do so, but really don't look forward to doing the > > same report thirteen times. Can I just file them against the kde > > package, or is there some straightforward way to file one report > > against multiple packages, or do I just plan to spend some quality > > time with cut & paste? Please do not file bugs about packages still depending on the "old" kdebase-runtime. > I suggest you get in contact with the Debian Qt/KDE team on IRC or > their mailing list. Or on debian-kde mailinglist that I added to Cc. I suggest that too. > KDE 4.7.4 SC just transitioned to Wheezy. And AFAIK only in KDE 4.7.4 > SC kde-runtime replaced kdebase-runtime. It might just be that the > Qt/KDE team is aware of the situation and it will take some more > time to fix all those packages. The dependency on kdebase-runtime is added automatically in packages, you generally won't find any package with architecture different than "all" actually declaring an explicitly dependency on kde(base)-runtime on its own. This means packages will "switch dependency" progressively once they get built for some reason (new version, rebuild for some transition, etc). > In the meanwhile just don´t remove that package ;). Correct (after all, kdebase-runtime is just an empty transitional package, so no harm in leaving it). We could take a look at the packages still depending on kdebase-runtime in say a couple of months or so. -- Pino Toscano |
Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional
Hi,
Alle venerdì 30 marzo 2012, Martin Steigerwald ha scritto: > I added debian-kde to Cc as there are members of the Debian Qt/KDE > packing team subcribed to, while I am not sure whether any of them > are subscribed to debian-user. > > Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb Max Hyre: > > Dear Debian: > > > > I tried to remove the transitional package kdebase-runtime, and > > > > got a shock when it proposed removing a number of packages, some > > important [1]. > > > > I checked the bugs for a few of them, and no report has been > > > > filed. I should do so, but really don't look forward to doing the > > same report thirteen times. Can I just file them against the kde > > package, or is there some straightforward way to file one report > > against multiple packages, or do I just plan to spend some quality > > time with cut & paste? Please do not file bugs about packages still depending on the "old" kdebase-runtime. > I suggest you get in contact with the Debian Qt/KDE team on IRC or > their mailing list. Or on debian-kde mailinglist that I added to Cc. I suggest that too. > KDE 4.7.4 SC just transitioned to Wheezy. And AFAIK only in KDE 4.7.4 > SC kde-runtime replaced kdebase-runtime. It might just be that the > Qt/KDE team is aware of the situation and it will take some more > time to fix all those packages. The dependency on kdebase-runtime is added automatically in packages, you generally won't find any package with architecture different than "all" actually declaring an explicitly dependency on kde(base)-runtime on its own. This means packages will "switch dependency" progressively once they get built for some reason (new version, rebuild for some transition, etc). > In the meanwhile just don´t remove that package ;). Correct (after all, kdebase-runtime is just an empty transitional package, so no harm in leaving it). We could take a look at the packages still depending on kdebase-runtime in say a couple of months or so. -- Pino Toscano |
Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:00:12 -0400, Max Hyre wrote:
> On 03/30/2012 10:26 AM, Camaleón wrote: [....] >> Can you post/upload the exact command you used (how did you manage to >> remove tha package) [....] > > I was using synaptic. I marked kdebase-runtime for ``complete > removal' (purging), and was presented with the list of packages see my > earlier e-mail) to be removed as a result. I just repeated it, and now, > instead of thirteen packages, it wants to ditch 27 (list available on > request :-). I presume the difference is that I dist-upgraded in > between---I'm following unstable. Ouch, from bad to worse :-P > After a bit of poking around, I decided that the better part of > valor was to not remove it. :-) Good and sane decision. Although the package information states: *** This transitional package takes care of pulling in the new kde-runtime package and can safely be removed after installation. *** True is that some of the packages you have mentioned that were tagged to be removed (e.g., "k3b") are still depending on the old package instead the new one. >> I would open agaisnt the transitional package "kdebase-runtime". > > Ah, that makes the most sense to me, thanks. Maybe not a good idea as some devel has pointed out, but that's what indeed I'd would have done with no additional information in my hands, we (users) are not skilled as "mind-readers" >>:-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: jl6imc$4ti$6@dough.gmane.org">http://lists.debian.org/jl6imc$4ti$6@dough.gmane.org |
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