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Old 03-30-2012, 05:33 AM
"Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)"
 
Default When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

On 28/03/2012 17:11, Richard Hector wrote:

On 27/03/12 19:38, Johan Grönqvist wrote:


Debian 7 is expected to be frozen this summer,

And here was me thinking it would be this winter.

Hint: This is an international list. Seasons aren't good for
international representation of dates :-)

Richard



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Old 03-30-2012, 06:45 AM
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Default When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Lisi <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 29 March 2012 17:21:48 Tom H wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Lisi <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:00:18 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
>> >> I want it fast!
>> >
>> > Then use Ubuntu.
>>
>> You must mean "use non-LTS."
>
> That's up to him, but Debian is patently not what he wants. *He is doing his
> best to change it.

Using testing or unstable would be the same as using non-LTS Ubuntu.


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Old 03-30-2012, 07:00 AM
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Default When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

On Friday 30 March 2012 07:45:24 Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Lisi <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 March 2012 17:21:48 Tom H wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Lisi <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:00:18 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
> >> >> I want it fast!
> >> >
> >> > Then use Ubuntu.
> >>
> >> You must mean "use non-LTS."
> >
> > That's up to him, but Debian is patently not what he wants. *He is doing
> > his best to change it.
>
> Using testing or unstable would be the same as using non-LTS Ubuntu.

I realise that. It is not I who am complaining. I like Debian as it is!

Lisi


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Old 03-30-2012, 08:11 AM
Andrei POPESCU
 
Default When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

On Vi, 30 mar 12, 13:17:16, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
> On 28/03/2012 16:04, Keith McKenzie wrote:
> >On 28/03/12 01:37, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
> >>>
> >>I prize bleeding edge technology above stability and reliability. But of
> >>course I still want stability and reliability.
> >The two are incompatible!
> >
> Who says so.

Experience

Bleeding edge technology is not stable and reliable because humans don't
design stuff that works perfectly the first time and by the time they
have found the bugs the technology is not bleeding edge anymore.

Kind regards,
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:35 AM
Lisi
 
Default When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

On Friday 30 March 2012 06:31:53 you wrote:
> On 28/03/2012 16:41, Lisi wrote:
> > On Wednesday 28 March 2012 01:37:48 you wrote:
> >> I prize bleeding edge technology above stability and reliability. But of
> >> course I still want stability and reliability.
> >
> > You can't have both, they are self-contradictory. If you prize bleeding
> > edge technology above stability and reliability then you clearly need
> > Ubuntu. Stop trying to pressure Debian into becoming Ubuntu. Many of us
> > like it how it is and do not want to use an Ubuntu clone.
> >
> > Moreover, Wheezy is available now. You do not need to wait until it is
> > released, by when it will no longer be cutting edge, that is, if it even
> > is now.
> >
> > Lisi
>
> They are not self contradictory. I can have both.
>
> And I am not pressurizing Debian into becoming Ubuntu. I use both Debian
> and Ubuntu.

I neither know nor care how many angels can dance on a pinhead. You may use
Debian, but you are making it abundantly clear, whatever you say, that you
don't like it and would like it to be a poor clone of Ubuntu.

This is descending into farce. I disagree profoundly with you, but there is
no point in saying the same thing over and over again, and I shall not do so
in future.

So _please_ _stop_ sending your replies to my private address. I read the
list.

Lisi



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Old 03-30-2012, 09:06 AM
"Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)"
 
Default When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

On 28/03/2012 22:34, Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:00:18 +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:


On 27/03/2012 22:14, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:04:57 +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:


I am actually looking forward to Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x. As
we all know, Debian 6.0.x is still using the old Linux Kernel 2.6.

Kernel 3.x is just a naming marketing strategy, indeed it's 2.6.40.
Anyway, there's a kernel 3.2 available in the backports.

I already have Linux kernel 3.3.0.

So then, what? :-)

Anyway, IIRC it was mentioned by Debian kernel devels that wheezy will be
released with kernel 3.2.x.


When will Debian 7.0 be released?

AFAIK, it will be frozen in ~June, released... nobody knows, that's a
feature.

Frozen in June 2012?

Yes, that's how it is (at least to my knowledge).


Debian with Linux Kernel 3.x release seems very slow when all the
other Linux distros already have the latest Linux Kernel 3.x. Why do I
want Linux Kernel 3.x? Because I want to play around with Xen
virtualization (dom0 required).

You can go to "www.kernel.org", download the greatest and latest 3.3
(still in devel branch) and compile by yourself using your current
kernel ".config" file.

I always go to kernel.org to get my latest Linux kernels. I have already
compiled and installed 3.2.11, 3.2.12, 3.2.13, 3.3.0-rc7, and 3.3.0
myself.

So then, what? :-)


Debian developers, please speed up!

Please don't, keep things stable and take your time :-)

I want it fast!

"Fast" does not match with stability and well-tested software, two magic
words that usually go along with Debian stable releases. If you want
"fast" things you can keep a perpetual testing or use sid.

Greetings,


I just like to download and compile the latest Linux kernels!!!

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Old 03-30-2012, 09:10 AM
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Default When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

On 28/03/2012 23:29, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

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Hi,

If someone wants Linux Kernel 3.X to quickly, it seems that it can be
found in Debian Backports http://backports-master.debian.org/ .

If someone wants to get the new kernel quickly, they probably want to
get everything else quickly too.

1. Add these two lines to /etc/apt/sources.list :
deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
deb-src http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports
main

2. Add these lines to /etc/apt/preferences.d/backports (or
/etc/apt/preferences) :

Package: *
Pin: release a=squeeze-backports
Pin-Priority: 500

WARNING TO STEP TWO: This will make all packages from backports have
same priority as packages from main repositories, so ALL packages will
be installed from backports if they are newer than the ones at main
repositories. If you are using Squeeze for stability, you might not
want this.

PS. I am using Sid

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Thank you for your information.

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Old 03-30-2012, 09:11 AM
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Default When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

On 29/03/2012 00:38, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Mi, 28 mar 12, 18:29:19, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

2. Add these lines to /etc/apt/preferences.d/backports (or
/etc/apt/preferences) :

Package: *
Pin: release a=squeeze-backports
Pin-Priority: 500

WARNING TO STEP TWO: This will make all packages from backports have
same priority as packages from main repositories, so ALL packages will
be installed from backports if they are newer than the ones at main
repositories. If you are using Squeeze for stability, you might not
want this.

I'm quite convinced it's safer to run testing instead. Backports is not
(and never was) intended to be used like this. For example some packages
in backports may not work well together (or at all) even if they do so
in testing.

Kind regards,
Andrei


Noted.

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Old 03-30-2012, 09:15 AM
"Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)"
 
Default When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

On 29/03/2012 05:03, Lisi wrote:

On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:00:18 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

I want it fast!

Then use Ubuntu.

Lisi




I am already using Ubuntu 11.10.

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Old 03-30-2012, 09:16 AM
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Default When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

On 29/03/2012 13:51, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

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Why not Sid?

Lisi<lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:


On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:00:18 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

I want it fast!

Then use Ubuntu.

Lisi


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I am using Debian Testing amd64 for my Samsung Intel Atom Netbook.

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