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Old 03-28-2012, 03:36 PM
Camaleón
 
Default Query about hard drive partitions maintenance

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:10:19 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> In addition to the explanation, show us the output of:
>>
>> fdisk -l
>>
>> So we can have an idea of the current state of your hard disk
>> partitions.
>>
>>
> "
> :~# fdisk -l
>
> Disk /dev/sda: 640.1 GB, 640135028736 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track,
> 77825 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector
> size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size
> (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc0000000
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/sda1 1 9 72261 de Dell Utility
> /dev/sda2 10 1134 9029632 7 HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda3 1134 11352 82082604 7 HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda4 11353 77825 533944342 5 Extended
> /dev/sda5 11353 21733 83385351 83 Linux
> /dev/sda6 * 21734 31931 81915403+ 83 Linux
> /dev/sda7 31932 37267 42860351+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
> /dev/sda8 42131 52329 81923436 83 Linux
> /dev/sda9 52330 62527 81915403+ 83 Linux
> /dev/sda10 62528 72726 81923436 83 Linux
> /dev/sda11 72727 77825 40957686 7 HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda12 37267 42130> 39061504 83 Linux
>
> Partition table entries are not in disk order "

What you need is another hard disk :-P

Okay, you have now 3 primary partitions and one extended that holds the rest
of the logicals which means that you only can:

1/ Add more logical partitions
2/ Completely re-do your hard disk schema (requires disk formatting)
3/ Add an additional hard disk, either external or internal

>> What recent operating system needs to be installed still in a primary
>> partition? Can you tell what OS are you going to install?
>>
>>
> I want to try PC-BSD 9 (see http://pcbsd.org/ ), which, unfortunately,
> apparently needs to be installed in a primary partition.

Mmm, which seems to be true:

http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PC-BSD_FAQS#Is_it_possible_to_install_PC-BSD_on_an_extended_partition.3F

I didn't know about that requirement for *BSD systems. With today hard disk
capacity standards (~2 TiB) it seems to me a bit unrealistic requirement :-/

(...)

> so I believe that, in the circumstances, I have to abandon the prospect
> of installing PC-BSD 9 on this computer.

I already pointed out some alternatives and Keith told you about
virtualization which can be also another possibility, at least to test
the PC-BSD 9 inners :-)

Greetings,

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Old 03-29-2012, 04:03 PM
Camaleón
 
Default Query about hard drive partitions maintenance

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:27:55 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:15:02 +0000 (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
> <jkq15m$4vf$6@dough.gmane.org>:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:24:00 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

(...)

>> > As you can see, the permissions of the mount point have no influence
>> > on the permissions of the files on the partition. This is true for
>> > about any filesystem that is more or less native to Linux (ext*, xfs,
>> > etc.).
>>
>> I'm not sure about your point here.
>>
>> What I wanted to say is that in order to make a mount point which is
>> defined in "/etc/fstab" being writeable by your users the mount point
>> has to have the proper permissions if not, depending on the path it is
>> located (e.g., my backup disk is mounted under "/data/backup" to avoid
>> loops when running the tar routine to make a copy of my "/home"
>> directory), it will be owned by "root" which is not usually what the
>> user wants.
>
>
> ..a wee exercise: Stuff an usb "key" into an usb hole, "dmesg &&df -h"
> to see what happened. Next, "umount -v $(that-usb-device) &&mkdir -vp
> /tmp/mountpoint/$(that-usb-device) &&mount -v $(that-usb-device)
> /tmp/mountpoint/$(that-usb-device) &&df -h
>>>/tmp/mountpoint/$(that-usb-device)/df-h ", then verify with
> "cat /tmp/mountpoint/$(that-usb-device)/* ", once you're happy with
> that, try "umount -v $(that-usb-device) &&df -h
>>>/tmp/mountpoint/$(that-usb-device)/df-h and try diff your 2
> "cat /tmp/mountpoint/$(that-usb-device)/* "'s. ;o)

And all that gibberish for what, exactly? I mean, beyond having a
terrible headache :-)

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Old 03-31-2012, 02:51 AM
Bret Busby
 
Default Query about hard drive partitions maintenance

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Camaleón wrote:



On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:10:19 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:


On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Camaleón wrote:


(...)




<snip>


What recent operating system needs to be installed still in a primary
partition? Can you tell what OS are you going to install?



I want to try PC-BSD 9 (see http://pcbsd.org/ ), which, unfortunately,
apparently needs to be installed in a primary partition.


Mmm, which seems to be true:

http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PC-BSD_FAQS#Is_it_possible_to_install_PC-BSD_on_an_extended_partition.3F

I didn't know about that requirement for *BSD systems. With today hard disk
capacity standards (~2 TiB) it seems to me a bit unrealistic requirement :-/

(...)


so I believe that, in the circumstances, I have to abandon the prospect
of installing PC-BSD 9 on this computer.


I already pointed out some alternatives and Keith told you about
virtualization which can be also another possibility, at least to test
the PC-BSD 9 inners :-)



I appear to have successfully more or less installed PC-BSD 9 on a
laptop computer; an HP/Compaq NX5000 with 2GB RAM, which has Debian
Linux 6.03 as the only other operating system (and only other primary
partition, apart from the Extended partition), but, to run it, I have to
figure out how to get GRUB to find it. I have not been able to find how
to get GRUB to find the PC-BSD 9 installation, as yet. But, that is
another issue, and, a bit of a different topic.


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Armadale
West Australia
..............

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you'll know what the answer means."
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Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
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published by Pan Books, 1992
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