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Old 02-14-2012, 03:39 AM
"Christofer C. Bell"
 
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Ethan Rosenberg <ethros@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Dear List -
>
> How do I install Amaya in Debian.

Download the Debian package from here: http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/BinDist.html

And install it with dpkg -i

# dpkg -i amaya_11.4.4-1_amd64.deb

or

# dpkg -i amaya_11.4.4-1_i386.deb

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Old 02-14-2012, 04:06 AM
Scott Ferguson
 
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On 14/02/12 15:24, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> Dear List -
>
> How do I install Amaya in Debian.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ethan
>
>
>
# apt-get install amaya


Or synaptic, or aptitude, or whatever floats your boat.

NOTE: amaya is *very* intolerant of invalid code (strict xhtml only).
Like aptana, it's not really targeted at people on the start of the web
design learning curve (but it's still a very useful tool).

'You' might enjoy Bluefish (# apt-get install bluefish bluefish-plugins)

If I could make some suggestions.... GIMP and kate (or other Debian text
editors) are *very* useful tools. Others have their own techniques - but
the following is how I do things (even though the end product is usually
produced by a CMS).

1. Layout your design as blocks in GIMP (work off minimal view portal,
use percentage if possible, min-width in pixels) Put your measurements
as text in the GIMP image (or just sketch it on paper).
2. Write the containers to match in your HTML
3. Work out the order in which you want them to be coded
(counter-intuitive, search engines read in code order, not render order
- so if you've three columns and the main text is in the centre column -
that's the column you want to appear in the code first), re-order as
necessary.
4. Write the css to to organise the containers for your layout (just
positioning, size, and contrasting background-color for each container
to start), re-order the css to suit inheritance (keep the css small, and
simple to understand).
5. Now that you can "see" the different containers (because of the
colours), adjust css to get positioning right.
6. Finally fill the containers with real content, remove the setup
background-colors from the containers (replace with real back-ground
colors) and insert element settings into the css.

If you just start by trying to do the lot in one go with an editor
you'll be up against it. Don't put anything into the editor until step 5.

Debian.org is a good reference (view source).


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Old 02-14-2012, 01:59 PM
Camaleˇn
 
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:24:22 -0500, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

> How do I install Amaya in Debian.

You have a .deb at their site:

http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/BinDist

But have you considered in using another html editor? :-)

Maybe Kompozer, Bluefish or QuantaPlus... all of them available for Linux.

You have a nice comparison table at Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML_editors

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Old 02-14-2012, 03:14 PM
Arnt Karlsen
 
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:06:43 +1100, Scott wrote in message
<4F39EBE3.7070001@gmail.com>:

> On 14/02/12 15:24, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> > Dear List -
> >
> > How do I install Amaya in Debian.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Ethan
> >
> >
> >
> # apt-get install amaya
>
>
> Or synaptic, or aptitude, or whatever floats your boat.
>
> NOTE: amaya is *very* intolerant of invalid code (strict xhtml only).
> Like aptana, it's not really targeted at people on the start of the
> web design learning curve (but it's still a very useful tool).
>
> 'You' might enjoy Bluefish (# apt-get install bluefish
> bluefish-plugins)
>
> If I could make some suggestions.... GIMP and kate (or other Debian
> text editors) are *very* useful tools. Others have their own
> techniques - but the following is how I do things (even though the
> end product is usually produced by a CMS).
>
> 1. Layout your design as blocks in GIMP (work off minimal view portal,
> use percentage if possible, min-width in pixels) Put your measurements
> as text in the GIMP image (or just sketch it on paper).
> 2. Write the containers to match in your HTML
> 3. Work out the order in which you want them to be coded
> (counter-intuitive, search engines read in code order, not render
> order
> - so if you've three columns and the main text is in the centre
> column - that's the column you want to appear in the code first),
> re-order as necessary.
> 4. Write the css to to organise the containers for your layout (just
> positioning, size, and contrasting background-color for each container
> to start), re-order the css to suit inheritance (keep the css small,
> and simple to understand).
> 5. Now that you can "see" the different containers (because of the
> colours), adjust css to get positioning right.
> 6. Finally fill the containers with real content, remove the setup
> background-colors from the containers (replace with real back-ground
> colors) and insert element settings into the css.

..7. Check your work for web standards compliance with e.g.
http://validator.w3.org/ or your local validator.

..8. Before you pay someone else for web site work, check their
work for web standards compliance and contractual compliance,
with e.g. http://validator.w3.org/ .

..9. Require web etc standards compliance and contractual compliance,
and fire the THB's who fails to meet your standards by e.g. paying for
substandard work.


> If you just start by trying to do the lot in one go with an editor
> you'll be up against it. Don't put anything into the editor until
> step 5.
>
> Debian.org is a good reference (view source).
>
>
> Kind regards
>


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Old 02-15-2012, 02:17 AM
"Christofer C. Bell"
 
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Scott Ferguson
<prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 14/02/12 15:24, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
>> Dear List -
>>
>> How do I install Amaya in Debian.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Ethan
>>
>>
>>
> # apt-get install amaya

To be clear, Amaya isn't provided by Debian in any release (oldstable,
stable, testing, unstable, experimental), in any repository section
(main, contrib, non-free):

http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=amaya&searchon=names&suite=all&sec tion=all

This is why I provided a pointer to the download page:

http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/BinDist

With the choice of 32 or 64 bit:

http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Distribution/amaya_11.4.4-1_i386.deb
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Distribution/amaya_11.4.4-1_amd64.deb

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Old 02-15-2012, 03:46 AM
Scott Ferguson
 
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On 15/02/12 14:17, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Scott Ferguson
> <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 14/02/12 15:24, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
>>> Dear List -

<snipped>

> To be clear, Amaya isn't provided by Debian in any release (oldstable,
> stable, testing, unstable, experimental), in any repository section
> (main, contrib, non-free):

Thanks for pointing that out.

>
> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=amaya&searchon=names&suite=all&sec tion=all
>
> This is why I provided a pointer to the download page:
>
> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/BinDist
>
> With the choice of 32 or 64 bit:
>
> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Distribution/amaya_11.4.4-1_i386.deb
> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Distribution/amaya_11.4.4-1_amd64.deb
>


My first response 'could' be "are you sure?" :-)

But that would be wrong - so I checked my original assumption a little
further....

scott@work:~$ apt-cache search amaya
browser-history - User daemon that tracks URLs looked at and logs them
amaya - XHTML, MathML, and SVG editor from w3.org

scott@work:~$ apt-cache show amaya | more
Package: amaya
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: *web*
Installed-Size: 52084
Maintainer: Laurent Carcone <carcone@w3.org>
Architecture: i386
Version: 11.4.4-1
Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libexpat1 (>=
1.95.8), libfreet
ype6 (>= 2.3.5), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0),
libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.
12.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.20.3), libraptor1 (>= 1.4.16), libsm6,
libssl0.9.8 (>= 0
.9.8m-1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1), libx11-6, libxext6, libxinerama1,
zlib1g (>= 1:1.1
.4)
Description: XHTML, MathML, and SVG editor from w3.org
Amaya is a Web editor, i.e. a tool used to create and update documents
directly on the Web. Browsing features are seamlessly integrated with
the editing and remote access features in a uniform environment.
Amaya is based on the Thot toolkit developed at INRIA.

NOTE the "Section: *web*" (emphasis is mine). If I'd dug that deep in
the first place that should have alerted me that it's not from the
official Debian repositories.

My apologies for the bum steer Ethan, or any implication that you
(Christofer) were overlooking the Debian repositories.



On a separate note - apparently BlueGriffon is a very good WYSIWYG HTML
editor.
I haven't used it yet, but one of my developers swears by it. She say
it's Open Source development with paid extensions, led by the same
developer (Daniel Glazman) behind the abandoned Nvu (later forked as
Kompozer).



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Old 09-22-2012, 02:13 PM
Silvio Siefke
 
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Hello,

i try since days install Amaya but it want not work. I try from Source
but it end with mistake in wx, but wxGTK is installed. I try from deb
Package it end with Raptor errors.

Has someone installed Amaya and can me tell the way?


Thank u. Regards
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:18 AM
walt
 
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On 09/22/2012 07:13 AM, Silvio Siefke wrote:

Hello,

i try since days install Amaya but it want not work. I try from Source
but it end with mistake in wx, but wxGTK is installed. I try from deb
Package it end with Raptor errors.

Has someone installed Amaya and can me tell the way?


I finally got it installed using this source tarball:
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Distribution/amaya-sources-11.4.4.tgz

I run gentoo ~amd64, and because of that I had to edit three of the amaya
source files to get it to compile. I think maybe if you are running a
32-bit stable gentoo it should 'just work', but I no longer have such a
machine to test. What gentoo version/arch are you running?
 
Old 10-02-2012, 12:15 AM
Silvio Siefke
 
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:18:03 -0700
walt <w41ter@gmail.com> wrote:

> I finally got it installed using this source tarball:
> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Distribution/amaya-sources-11.4.4.tgz

I try it now on my Desktop System.

> I run gentoo ~amd64, and because of that I had to edit three of the amaya
> source files to get it to compile. I think maybe if you are running a
> 32-bit stable gentoo it should 'just work', but I no longer have such a
> machine to test. What gentoo version/arch are you running?

I use the normal arch, 32 bit. I try it with the source now on my desktop.


Regards
Silvio
 
Old 10-02-2012, 12:39 AM
Silvio Siefke
 
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Hello,

So i try on my Desktop to compile Amaya. Want not work.

g++ -O2 -Wall -x c++ -D__cplusplus -D_UNIX -D_GL -D_WX -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I.. -I../../amaya/xpm -I../../thotlib/include
-I../../thotlib/internals/var -I../../thotlib/internals/h
-I../../thotlib/internals/f
-I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-release-2.8 -I/usr/include/wx-2.8
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -D__WXGTK__ -pthread
-I/home/siefke/Downloads/Amaya11.4.4/Amaya/obj/Mesa/include
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -c ../../thotlib/image/picture.c -o
image/picture.o
../../thotlib/image/picture.c: In Funktion ┬╗ThotBool
TtaFileCopyUncompress(const char*, const char*)┬ź:
../../thotlib/image/picture.c:2386:50: Warnung: ignoring return value
of ┬╗size_t fwrite(const void*, size_t, size_t, FILE*)┬ź, declared
with attribute warn_unused_result
g++ -O2 -Wall -x c++ -D__cplusplus -D_UNIX -D_GL -D_WX -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I.. -I../../amaya/xpm -I../../thotlib/include
-I../../thotlib/internals/var -I../../thotlib/internals/h
-I../../thotlib/internals/f
-I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-release-2.8 -I/usr/include/wx-2.8
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -D__WXGTK__ -pthread
-I/home/siefke/Downloads/Amaya11.4.4/Amaya/obj/Mesa/include
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -c ../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c -o
image/pnghandler.o
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c: In Funktion ┬╗unsigned char*
ReadPng(FILE*, unsigned int*, unsigned int*, int*, int*,
ThotColorStruct**, int*, ThotBool*, ThotBool*)┬ź:
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:152:9: Fehler: invalid use of
incomplete type ┬╗struct png_struct┬ź
/usr/include/png.h:857:16: Fehler: forward declaration of ┬╗struct png_struct┬ź
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:163:33: Fehler: ung├╝ltige Umwandlung
von ┬╗long unsigned int*┬ź in ┬╗png_uint_32*┬ź
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:163:33: Fehler: Argument 3 von
┬╗png_uint_32 png_get_IHDR(png_struct*, png_info*, png_uint_32*,
png_uint_32*, int*, int*, int*, int*, int*)┬ź wird initialisiert
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:163:33: Fehler: ung├╝ltige Umwandlung
von ┬╗long unsigned int*┬ź in ┬╗png_uint_32*┬ź
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:163:33: Fehler: Argument 4 von
┬╗png_uint_32 png_get_IHDR(png_struct*, png_info*, png_uint_32*,
png_uint_32*, int*, int*, int*, int*, int*)┬ź wird initialisiert
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:178:38: Fehler:
┬╗png_set_gray_1_2_4_to_8┬ź wurde in diesem G├╝ltigkeitsbereich nicht
definiert
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:201:21: Fehler: ung├╝ltige Umwandlung
von ┬╗long unsigned int*┬ź in ┬╗png_uint_32*┬ź
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:201:21: Fehler: Argument 3 von
┬╗png_uint_32 png_get_IHDR(png_struct*, png_info*, png_uint_32*,
png_uint_32*, int*, int*, int*, int*, int*)┬ź wird initialisiert
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:201:21: Fehler: ung├╝ltige Umwandlung
von ┬╗long unsigned int*┬ź in ┬╗png_uint_32*┬ź
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:201:21: Fehler: Argument 4 von
┬╗png_uint_32 png_get_IHDR(png_struct*, png_info*, png_uint_32*,
png_uint_32*, int*, int*, int*, int*, int*)┬ź wird initialisiert
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c: In Funktion ┬╗ThotBool SavePng(const
char*, unsigned char*, unsigned int, unsigned int)┬ź:
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:861:7: Fehler: invalid use of
incomplete type ┬╗struct png_struct┬ź
/usr/include/png.h:857:16: Fehler: forward declaration of ┬╗struct png_struct┬ź
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c: In Funktion ┬╗unsigned char*
ReadPng(FILE*, unsigned int*, unsigned int*, int*, int*,
ThotColorStruct**, int*, ThotBool*, ThotBool*)┬ź:
../../thotlib/image/pnghandler.c:136:32: Warnung: ignoring return
value of ┬╗size_t fread(void*, size_t, size_t, FILE*)┬ź, declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
make[1]: *** [image/pnghandler.o] Fehler 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/siefke/Downloads/Amaya11.4.4/Amaya/obj/thotlib'
make: *** [thotlib] Fehler 2


I run the follow command,

../configure --enable-system-wx --enable-system-libwww --enable-system-raptor


Regards
Silvio
 

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