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Richard 12-01-2011 11:21 PM

for those who dislike gnome3-shell
 
Hi
After tonights updates the login pane gives the option of gnome or "gnome classic"
;)
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Camaleón 12-03-2011 11:12 AM

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On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:21:02 +0000, Richard wrote:

> After tonights updates the login pane gives the option of gnome or
> "gnome classic" ;)

Uh? :-?

You mean the "fallback" mode? It has been there since always.

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Richard 12-03-2011 12:22 PM

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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:12:16 +0000 (UTC)
Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:21:02 +0000, Richard wrote:
>
> > After tonights updates the login pane gives the option of gnome or
> > "gnome classic" ;)
>
> Uh? :-?
>
> You mean the "fallback" mode? It has been there since always.
>
> Greetings,
>

NO :)

ON THE LOGIN TAB
there is now a selection of "Gnome ", "Gnome Classic" or what ever other DMs you have loaded
The name fallback has been replaced by gnome classic.

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Camaleón 12-03-2011 02:16 PM

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On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:22:05 +0000, Richard wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:21:02 +0000, Richard wrote:
>>
>> > After tonights updates the login pane gives the option of gnome or
>> > "gnome classic" ;)
>>
>> Uh? :-?
>>
>> You mean the "fallback" mode? It has been there since always.
>>
>>
>>
> NO :)
>
> ON THE LOGIN TAB
> there is now a selection of "Gnome ", "Gnome Classic" or what ever other
> DMs you have loaded The name fallback has been replaced by gnome
> classic.

That option is not available here (updated wheezy).

But in the end is just a cosmetic change, doesn't it? I mean, when you
select "Gnome Classic" what you get the fallback mode, right?

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Patrick Wiseman 12-03-2011 02:27 PM

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On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:22:05 +0000, Richard wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:21:02 +0000, Richard wrote:
>>>
>>> > After tonights updates the login pane gives the option of gnome or
>>> > "gnome classic" ;)
>>>
>>> Uh? :-?
>>>
>>> You mean the "fallback" mode? It has been there since always.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> NO :)
>>
>> ON THE LOGIN TAB
>> there is now a selection of "Gnome ", "Gnome Classic" or what ever other
>> DMs you have loaded The name fallback has been replaced by gnome
>> classic.
>
> That option is not available here (updated wheezy).
>
> But in the end is just a cosmetic change, doesn't it? I mean, when you
> select "Gnome Classic" what you get the fallback mode, right?

It's still "GNOME fallback" here, too, on my up-to-date testing system.

Patrick


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Richard 12-03-2011 02:38 PM

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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:27:32 -0500
Patrick Wiseman <pwiseman@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:22:05 +0000, Richard wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:21:02 +0000, Richard wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > After tonights updates the login pane gives the option of gnome or
> >>> > "gnome classic" ;)
> >>>
> >>> Uh? :-?
> >>>
> >>> You mean the "fallback" mode? It has been there since always.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> NO :)
> >>
> >> ON THE LOGIN TAB
> >> there is now a selection of "Gnome ", "Gnome Classic" or what ever other
> >> DMs you have loaded The name fallback has been replaced by gnome
> >> classic.
> >
> > That option is not available here (updated wheezy).
> >
> > But in the end is just a cosmetic change, doesn't it? I mean, when you
> > select "Gnome Classic" what you get the fallback mode, right?
>
> It's still "GNOME fallback" here, too, on my up-to-date testing system.
>
> Patrick
>
>

I've pulled from Sid, I know its only a name, but does it indicate that the gnome wahlars have
taken notice of the screams and criticism from users ?.

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Camaleón 12-03-2011 03:09 PM

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On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:38:17 +0000, Richard wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:27:32 -0500
> Patrick Wiseman <pwiseman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:22:05 +0000, Richard wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón
>> >> <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:21:02 +0000, Richard wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > After tonights updates the login pane gives the option of gnome
>> >>> > or "gnome classic" ;)
>> >>>
>> >>> Uh? :-?
>> >>>
>> >>> You mean the "fallback" mode? It has been there since always.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> NO :)
>> >>
>> >> ON THE LOGIN TAB
>> >> there is now a selection of "Gnome ", "Gnome Classic" or what ever
>> >> other DMs you have loaded The name fallback has been replaced by
>> >> gnome classic.
>> >
>> > That option is not available here (updated wheezy).
>> >
>> > But in the end is just a cosmetic change, doesn't it? I mean, when
>> > you select "Gnome Classic" what you get the fallback mode, right?
>>
>> It's still "GNOME fallback" here, too, on my up-to-date testing system.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
> I've pulled from Sid, I know its only a name, but does it indicate that
> the gnome wahlars have taken notice of the screams and criticism from
> users ?.

Ha! >:-D

I think that "fallback" is a term that sounded too "techy" for the easy-
peasy GNOME standards and they don't like their users act like "techies".

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José Silva 12-03-2011 03:58 PM

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On 03-12-2011 15:38, Richard wrote:

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:27:32 -0500
Patrick Wiseman<pwiseman@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Camaleón<noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:22:05 +0000, Richard wrote:


On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón<noelamac@gmail.com>
wrote:


On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:21:02 +0000, Richard wrote:


After tonights updates the login pane gives the option of gnome or
"gnome classic" ;)


Uh? :-?

You mean the "fallback" mode? It has been there since always.




NO :)

ON THE LOGIN TAB
there is now a selection of "Gnome ", "Gnome Classic" or what ever other
DMs you have loaded The name fallback has been replaced by gnome
classic.


That option is not available here (updated wheezy).

But in the end is just a cosmetic change, doesn't it? I mean, when you
select "Gnome Classic" what you get the fallback mode, right?


It's still "GNOME fallback" here, too, on my up-to-date testing system.

Patrick




I've pulled from Sid, I know its only a name, but does it indicate that the gnome wahlars have
taken notice of the screams and criticism from users ?.



Not again the same discussion; but once that you raised it, I must state
that I love Gnome 3 shell, not everyone dislikes it.


jss


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Richard 12-03-2011 04:24 PM

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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 16:58:43 +0000
José Silva <jsantossilva@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 03-12-2011 15:38, Richard wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:27:32 -0500
> > Patrick Wiseman<pwiseman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Camaleón<noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:22:05 +0000, Richard wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón<noelamac@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:21:02 +0000, Richard wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> After tonights updates the login pane gives the option of gnome or
> >>>>>> "gnome classic" ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Uh? :-?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You mean the "fallback" mode? It has been there since always.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> NO :)
> >>>>
> >>>> ON THE LOGIN TAB
> >>>> there is now a selection of "Gnome ", "Gnome Classic" or what ever other
> >>>> DMs you have loaded The name fallback has been replaced by gnome
> >>>> classic.
> >>>
> >>> That option is not available here (updated wheezy).
> >>>
> >>> But in the end is just a cosmetic change, doesn't it? I mean, when you
> >>> select "Gnome Classic" what you get the fallback mode, right?
> >>
> >> It's still "GNOME fallback" here, too, on my up-to-date testing system.
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I've pulled from Sid, I know its only a name, but does it indicate that the gnome wahlars have
> > taken notice of the screams and criticism from users ?.
> >
>
> Not again the same discussion; but once that you raised it, I must state
> that I love Gnome 3 shell, not everyone dislikes it.
>
> jss
>
>

Its not really the same discussion, I just reported a name change on the menu, I'm using gnome3-shell on
both this and the laptop, which is still running fedora, which is ahead of debian Sid.
When they catch up, I'll move the laptop to Wheezy.
It really is a shame that the extensions to gnome-shell haven't been added to the repos.
IMO had the deb devs done that, 80 % of the winges would not have happened.
The only extension I'd like is the one which puts shutdown on the menu as well as suspend.
Maybe because the debian maintainer is using laptops and just shutting the lid is good enough.
I would like to move the hot spot to the bottom LH or RH corner.

Cya

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Michael Biebl 12-03-2011 04:32 PM

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On 03.12.2011 18:24, Richard wrote:
> It really is a shame that the extensions to gnome-shell haven't been added to the repos.
> IMO had the deb devs done that, 80 % of the winges would not have happened.
> The only extension I'd like is the one which puts shutdown on the menu as well as suspend.

http://packages.debian.org/experimental/gnome-shell-extensions

We will even enable the alternative-status-menu by default in one of the
next uploads.

And in case you are wondering, why it's currently in experimental:

It requires gnome-shell 3.2, which is currently in experimental and we
have to wait from the release team until we get the ack for libgda/evo
and gnome-desktop transitions.

Cheers,
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