On 31/10/11 03:40, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> If:-
>> $ apt-get -s install kmix | grep kmix
>> gives you:-
>> gives you:-
>> kmix is already the newest version.
>> kmix set to manually installed.
>
> sudo apt-get -s install kmix |grep kmix
> kmix is already the newest version.
>
>> Then try:-
>> (and look for error message, and appearance of icon)
>> $ kmix --keepvisibility
>
> Still nothing on running that command. Where would error messages
> appear?

In the console.

eg.
$ kmix (no output - kmix started, icon appears in systray)
$ kmix --keepvisibility (output because it's already running)
Connecting to deprecated signal
QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QStr ing,QString,QString)


<snipped>

If kmix *wasn't* installed you'd get a command not found error.

What do you get from?:-
$ kmix
$ ps -C kmix

If it *wasn't* functioning you "should" have got a system error.

I don't know what theme you have running so I don't know the exact
appearance - the icon should appear as a small speaker:-
http://christian.esken.de/kmix/screenshots.html

It's a small icon and easy to miss...
Hovering over the icon allow master volume control with the scroll
button, right-clicking on the icon allows access to the mixer panels.

Cheers


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Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> writes:

> I don't know what theme you have running so I don't know the exact
> appearance - the icon should appear as a small speaker:-
> http://christian.esken.de/kmix/screenshots.html

Desktop theme is `oxygen' and I have a darkish image as wallpaper.
A scaled down version can be seen here:

www.jtan.com/~reader/vu/disp.cgi

[...]

>> Still nothing on running that command. Where would error messages
>> appear?
>
> In the console.

OK, nothing here.

[...]

> What do you get from?:-
> $ kmix
> $ ps -C kmix

> ps -C kmix

When I first tried I got:
PID TTY TIME CMD
2233 ? 00:00:01 kmix

I then killed that pid, ran kmix again and got this:
PID TTY TIME CMD
12896 pts/11 00:00:00 kmix

I still do not see anything in system area however if I click on the
kmix icon under `Multimedia'/sound mixer

It now comes up and I see the offerings.

Thanks (still nothing in system area)



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On 31/10/11 11:49, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I don't know what theme you have running so I don't know the exact
>> appearance - the icon should appear as a small speaker:-
>> http://christian.esken.de/kmix/screenshots.html
>
> Desktop theme is `oxygen' and I have a darkish image as wallpaper.
> A scaled down version can be seen here:
>
> www.jtan.com/~reader/vu/disp.cgi
>
> [...]
>
>>> Still nothing on running that command. Where would error messages
>>> appear?
>>
>> In the console.
>
> OK, nothing here.
>
> [...]
>
>> What do you get from?:-
>> $ kmix
>> $ ps -C kmix
>
> > ps -C kmix
>
> When I first tried I got:
> PID TTY TIME CMD
> 2233 ? 00:00:01 kmix
>
> I then killed that pid, ran kmix again and got this:
> PID TTY TIME CMD
> 12896 pts/11 00:00:00 kmix

So it *is* running.... perhaps you just don't recognise it.

>
> I still do not see anything in system area

"System Tray" - to the left of "Notification", which is left of the clock.
Check System Tray Settings (right-click in the System Tray)
In the left-hand pane select "Auto-hide", in the right-hand pane select
Kmix and set it to "Always Visible".

> however if I click on the
> kmix icon under `Multimedia'/sound mixer

Should be between the "Device Notifier" and the Korganiser icons.


>
> It now comes up and I see the offerings.
>
> Thanks (still nothing in system area)
>
>
>

Cheers


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Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> writes:

> "System Tray" - to the left of "Notification", which is left of the clock.
> Check System Tray Settings (right-click in the System Tray)
> In the left-hand pane select "Auto-hide", in the right-hand pane select
> Kmix and set it to "Always Visible".

There must be something missing here. I see nothing like that on
right click anywhere along the entire bottom panel.

I'm getting pretty confused... you describe things that I just do not
see here.

Right clicking the system tray I get nothing resembling panes. I get
a 3 item menu that says:

Task manager settings
Panel options
Remove this task manager

Clicking on `Task Manager settings' item produces the only thing even
remotely like a left and right pane. And does not appear to be about
what you are talking about in any way.

The left pane says:

General
Keyboard shortcuts
share

The right pane contains details related to those.

Clicking on `Panel Options' item (on that right click menu) produces a
5 part list that says:

Add widgets
Add panel
Lock Widgets
Panel settings
Remove this panel

Clicking on `Panel settings' item, produces a huge full length and
about 2 inches high mess that has across the top:

Screen edge height add widgets add spacer More settings

Clicking on More settings produces a 12 part list:

Panel alignment
left
center
right

Visibility
Always visible
Auto hide

Windows can cover
Windows go below
Maximize panel
lock widgets
remove this panel

With the exceptions of `Auto hide' and `Always Visible' None of this
looks anything like what you mention. Further, kmix appears no where
in all that baloney.



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On 31/10/11 14:24, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> "System Tray" - to the left of "Notification", which is left of the clock.
>> Check System Tray Settings (right-click in the System Tray)
>> In the left-hand pane select "Auto-hide", in the right-hand pane select
>> Kmix and set it to "Always Visible".
>
> There must be something missing here. I see nothing like that on
> right click anywhere along the entire bottom panel.
>
> I'm getting pretty confused... you describe things that I just do not
> see here.

You may not have a System Tray - or you may have it in an unusual
location (or obscured).

<snipped>


Where I've indicated "Task Switcher" I should have put "Virtual Desktop
Switcher". The "System Tray" arrow is pointing at the kmix icon:-
http://ge.tt/8sV0vN9/v/0

Cheers


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Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> writes:

>> I'm getting pretty confused... you describe things that I just do not
>> see here.
>
> You may not have a System Tray - or you may have it in an unusual
> location (or obscured).

No, I don't think so. See my desktop with 2 instances of emacs, gvim,
and several xterms running:

www.jtan.com/~reader/vu/disp.cgi

Its a reduced image of course but you can see the panel across the
bottom. Is that not the `system tray' you speak of?


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On 01/11/11 00:46, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> I'm getting pretty confused... you describe things that I just do not
>>> see here.
>>
>> You may not have a System Tray - or you may have it in an unusual
>> location (or obscured).
>
> No, I don't think so. See my desktop with 2 instances of emacs, gvim,
> and several xterms running:
>
> www.jtan.com/~reader/vu/disp.cgi
>
> Its a reduced image of course but you can see the panel across the
> bottom.

Kind of...

>Is that not the `system tray' you speak of?
>
What's the icon between klipper and the clock??:-
http://ge.tt/8FfYhP9/v/0

Cheers



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Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> writes:

>> Its a reduced image of course but you can see the panel across the
>> bottom.
>
> Kind of...

Try again, I've put an unreduced image of just the bottom and a little
of the screen... full width.

www.jtan.com/~reader/vu/disp.cgi

>>Is that not the `system tray' you speak of?
>>
> What's the icon between klipper and the clock??:-
> http://ge.tt/8FfYhP9/v/0

Its the little carrot thing that toggles the show hidden icons

Behind it are:
Desktop Notifier
Desktop sharing
KOrganizer Reminder Daemon



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On 02/11/11 00:54, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> writes:
>
<snipped>

>>
>> Kind of...
>
> Try again, I've put an unreduced image of just the bottom and a little
> of the screen... full width.
>
> www.jtan.com/~reader/vu/disp.cgi

Thanks (that I could see)

<snipped>
>>>
>> What's the icon between klipper and the clock??:-
>> http://ge.tt/8FfYhP9/v/0
>
> Its the little carrot thing that toggles the show hidden icons

The "Hide Icons Icon" :-)
*That* is part of the System Tray
>
> Behind it are:
> Desktop Notifier
> Desktop sharing
> KOrganizer Reminder Daemon

Should be Device Notifier as well.

>
>
>
Right-click it to get to the "System Tray Settings" - drill down from
there to enable hiding/unhiding icons.

Cheers


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