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Old 09-29-2011, 07:37 PM
Lisi
 
Default Installing icedtea-plugin from Sid on Wheezy system - was openjdk-7-jre and Iceweasel

On Thursday 29 September 2011 17:03:55 Dejan Ribič wrote:
> Dne 29.9.2011 17:54, piše Lisi:
> > I am trying, without success, to run:
> >
> > http://media.pearsoncmg.com/aw/aw_kurose_network_2/applets/dns/dns.html

> I am not sure this works with openjdk-7 but try to install
> icedtea-plugin.

It seems to be available only in Sid.

I have never tried to mix systems before. I first thought of putting Sid into
my sources.list, installing icedtea-plugin and then commenting Sid out of my
sources.list. But that won't work will it? Becauseaafter adding Sid to
tehsources.list I would have to run update, would I not? And I don't want
everything updated to Sid.

So where do I go from here?

Thanks,
Lisi


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Old 09-29-2011, 08:32 PM
Gilbert Sullivan
 
Default Installing icedtea-plugin from Sid on Wheezy system - was openjdk-7-jre and Iceweasel

On 09/29/2011 03:37 PM, Lisi wrote:

On Thursday 29 September 2011 17:03:55 Dejan Ribič wrote:

Dne 29.9.2011 17:54, piše Lisi:

I am trying, without success, to run:

http://media.pearsoncmg.com/aw/aw_kurose_network_2/applets/dns/dns.html



I am not sure this works with openjdk-7 but try to install
icedtea-plugin.


It seems to be available only in Sid.

I have never tried to mix systems before. I first thought of putting Sid into
my sources.list, installing icedtea-plugin and then commenting Sid out of my
sources.list. But that won't work will it? Becauseaafter adding Sid to
tehsources.list I would have to run update, would I not? And I don't want
everything updated to Sid.

So where do I go from here?

Thanks,
Lisi


Hi, Lisi.

I am by no means an expert at running "mixed" systems. But I can tell
you my experience from a few weeks ago with this exact issue.


I had been happily using the icedtea plugin with the OpenJDK JRE on my
old system running Wheezy. I got a new system and did a new installation
of Wheezy on it and on my spare laptop, and there was no icedtea plugin
to be found in the repository. I learned that the old icedtea plugin was
going to be replaced by an icedtea-netx plugin -- or something with a
name approximately along those lines. Anyway, nothing of the sort was
currently available from the wheezy main repository.


I added the unstable main lines to my /etc/apt/sources.list file, then
ran aptitude (interactive mode) and ran an update. I then searched for
and selected ONLY the openjdk jre and the icedtea-netx and installed
them. (I left all of the thousands of upgrades available on HOLD.) I
then commented out the sid lines in the sources.list file and ran
aptitude update again, and that reverted everything so that aptitude
would not think that it needed to install a jillion upgrades.


It worked after a fashion, but dealing with the iceweasel browser
version changes that have been making their way into wheezy and trying
to keep the icedtea / netx plugin and jre from sid updated just got to
be a pain, so I ripped them out of the system and stopped using Java for
the time being. I've been waiting for a number of weeks for this stuff
to get hashed out and make its way from unstable to testing, but I'm not
holding my breath any longer. You, however, have a more compelling
reason to want the function than do I. (I only used it for playing
online crossword puzzles. Doh!)


If you subscribe to the distro-pkg-dev@open.jdk.net list you can see
that there's a lot of activity -- and, apparently, a little bit of
infighting, too. But I'm not sure we can expect to see a solution very
soon -- at least not if I'm interpreting what I read there correctly.
I'm guessing that those folks have to arrive at more suitable solutions
before the package managers for the Debian Wheezy packages dare to bring
the packages into Wheezy.


I use only the main repositories, not even deigning to use proprietary
firmware on any of my systems. Obviously, I'm going to be stubborn and
not install the Sun java jre. So I'm stuck until this is fixed. I love
my Wheezy and don't want to go back to stable, but the Squeeze folks do
have it better right now with regards to this particular issue. They
still get to use FOSS for supporting Java applets.


Now -- if I've stuck my foot in my mouth, and someone has a better idea
of what the heck is going on and when we might hope to see a fix for
using Java applets in Wheezy (without resorting to the Sun JRE) I hope
this person or persons will step right up, whack me in the head with a
clue-by-four, and enlighten me. And then you (Lisi) and I will have an
idea of how we should proceed.


Here's hoping you find the answer that I've just been waiting for and
wishing for!


Best regards,
Gilbert


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Old 09-30-2011, 04:20 AM
Torstein Krause Johansen
 
Default Installing icedtea-plugin from Sid on Wheezy system - was openjdk-7-jre and Iceweasel

Hi there,

On 9/30/11 3:37 AM, Lisi wrote

I am not sure this works with openjdk-7 but try to install
icedtea-plugin.

It seems to be available only in Sid.

I have never tried to mix systems before. I first thought of putting Sid into
my sources.list, installing icedtea-plugin and then commenting Sid out of my
sources.list. But that won't work will it? Becauseaafter adding Sid to
tehsources.list I would have to run update, would I not? And I don't want
everything updated to Sid.

So where do I go from here?

I'd recommend you to add this to your /etc/apt/preferences:

Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 650

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 600

Then, when having both stable& sid in your sources.list, stable will always be preferred. Now, if you want to install something from unstable, you do:

# apt-get install -t unstable<package>

Cheers,

-Torstein


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