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To avoid messing up Lisi's post, I started a new one. What's the acceptable saturation for the / partition, now my one reached 61% (377M of 658, wheezy), another reached 87% (483M of 657M, sid) only saw it increases, never saw it decreases. I followed Camaleón's suggestion, the output of cd / du -h | grep "[0-9]M" | sort -n -r | less the first few ones even reached hundreds of M. the output of du -h is 34G*** Sorry I still don't know which files took the partition which / mounted. Thanks, or maybe I should wait until reached 95% to ask then? (now seems a bit earlier ^_^ .) -- Best Regards, lina |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:16:53 +0800, lina wrote:
> To avoid messing up Lisi's post, I started a new one. Better, thanks to care about that :-) > What's the acceptable saturation for the / partition, I always ensure there is at least 10% of free space so the whole system can operate smoothly. > now my one reached 61% (377M of 658, wheezy), another reached 87% (483M > of 657M, sid) > > only saw it increases, never saw it decreases. If it increases is because you get new updates and packages :-) > I followed Camaleón's suggestion, the output of > > cd / > du -h | grep "[0-9]M" | sort -n -r | less > > the first few ones even reached hundreds of M. Are those big figures for files or folders? > the output of du -h is 34G Tip: "du -sh" to get the summary the output, but it will be also interesting to know what's the result of "df -h" to get the whole picture of your system space. > Sorry I still don't know which files took the partition which / mounted. > > Thanks, > > or maybe I should wait until reached 95% to ask then? (now seems a bit > earlier ^_^ .) When you are out of space you will notice (you get a nice warning message), don't worry >:-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: pan.2011.09.21.15.10.53@gmail.com">http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.21.15.10.53@gmail.com |
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On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:10:53 Camaleón wrote:
> When you are out of space you will notice (you get a nice warning > message), don't worry >:-) I got no warning until it was already claiming to be 100%. :-( If I were you I would take some action before it gets that far. You are nearly at Camaleón's 90% on one of your systems. Learn from my mistakes, rather than suffering from your own. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: 201109211624.49913.lisi.reisz@gmail.com">http://lists.debian.org/201109211624.49913.lisi.reisz@gmail.com |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:24:49 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:10:53 Camaleón wrote: >> When you are out of space you will notice (you get a nice warning >> message), don't worry >:-) > > I got no warning until it was already claiming to be 100%. :-( I did receive a message warning when my "/" was almost full, so maybe this is a DE setting (I was under GNOME)? :-? But anyway that 100% is not "true" (at least for ext3/4 filesystems) and fair enough as you are still able to log in, right? > If I were you I would take some action before it gets that far. You are > nearly at Camaleón's 90% on one of your systems. Learn from my > mistakes, rather than suffering from your own. ;-) Sometimes this can't be avoided, I mean, prevention is the best -of course- but there are times when, for instance, log files increase their size so quickly that logrotate is not able to trunk them and your system quota gets full due to an uncontrolled process that, in my case, was flooding the "/var/log/syslog" file. Then it's too late and your system may become unstable and slow meaning that you are royaly hosed :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: pan.2011.09.21.15.43.51@gmail.com">http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.21.15.43.51@gmail.com |
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:16:53 +0800, lina wrote: > To avoid messing up Lisi's post, I started a new one. Better, thanks to care about that :-) You are welcome, I am on my way of learning. ^_^ * > What's the acceptable saturation for the / partition, I always ensure there is at least 10% of free space so the whole system can operate smoothly. > now my one reached 61% (377M of 658, wheezy), another reached 87% (483M > of 657M, sid) > > only saw it increases, never saw it decreases. If it increases is because you get new updates and packages :-) > I followed Camaleón's suggestion, the output of > > cd / > du -h | grep "[0-9]M" | sort -n -r | less > > the first few ones even reached hundreds of M. Are those big figures for files or folders? *folders. * 636M*** ./src/some_software 592M*** ./src/some_software/ 543M*** ./.local/share 543M*** ./.local 540M*** ./.local/share/Trash/files 540M*** ./.local/share/Trash 494M*** ./Documents/p 392M*** ./Documents/c 375M*** ./Documents/c/BS409 356M*** ./src/some_software/software/test 356M*** ./.mozilla/firefox/3gbs90vf.default 356M*** ./.mozilla/firefox 356M*** ./.mozilla * > the output of du -h is 34G Tip: "du -sh" to get the summary the output, but it will be also interesting to know what's the result of "df -h" to get the whole picture of your system space. * *# df -h Filesystem*********** Size* Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5************ 658M* 377M* 248M* 61% / tmpfs**************** 5.0M**** 0* 5.0M** 0% /lib/init/rw tmpfs**************** 792M* 824K* 791M** 1% /run udev***************** 3.9G**** 0* 3.9G** 0% /dev tmpfs**************** 1.6G** 12K* 1.6G** 1% /run/shm /dev/sda4************ 213M** 64M* 139M* 32% /boot /dev/sda7************* 14G* 3.6G* 9.6G* 28% /home /dev/sda13*********** 536G** 23G* 487G** 5% /scratch /dev/sda8************ 564M** 20M* 515M** 4% /tmp /dev/sda9************* 15G* 6.3G* 7.7G* 46% /usr /dev/sda10*********** 6.5G* 461M* 5.7G** 8% /usr/local /dev/sda11*********** 3.4G* 639M* 2.6G* 20% /var /dev/sda12*********** 6.9G* 870M* 5.7G* 14% /var/local * > Sorry I still don't know which files took the partition which / mounted. *are there some easy way to see which files sit on which partition? * > > Thanks, > > or maybe I should wait until reached 95% to ask then? (now seems a bit > earlier ^_^ .) When you are out of space you will notice (you get a nice warning message), don't worry >:-)* Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.21.15.10.53@gmail.com -- Best Regards, lina |
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Lisi <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:10:53 Camaleón wrote: > When you are out of space you will notice (you get a nice warning > message), don't worry >:-) I got no warning until it was already claiming to be 100%. *:-( *If I were you I used to get warnings about the /tmp (276M) when I watched some online films in the past. * I would take some action before it gets that far. *You are nearly at Camaleón's 90% on one of your systems. *Learn from my mistakes, rather than suffering from your own. ;-) Thanks,* Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109211624.49913.lisi.reisz@gmail.com -- Best Regards, lina |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:45:00 +0800, lina wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I followed Camaleón's suggestion, the output of >> > >> > cd / >> > du -h | grep "[0-9]M" | sort -n -r | less >> > >> > the first few ones even reached hundreds of M. >> >> Are those big figures for files or folders? >> >> > folders. > > > >> 636M ./src/some_software >> 592M ./src/some_software/ >> 543M ./.local/share >> 543M ./.local >> 540M ./.local/share/Trash/files >> 540M ./.local/share/Trash >> 494M ./Documents/p >> 392M ./Documents/c >> 375M ./Documents/c/BS409 >> 356M ./src/some_software/software/test >> 356M ./.mozilla/firefox/3gbs90vf.default >> 356M ./.mozilla/firefox >> 356M ./.mozilla Then it's fine. I would worry when a file gets oversized, that may indicate a problem. But I would carefully watch your "/.local/share/Trash" and your Firefox profile. Both folders look very big to me, you may have there "erasable" files (deleted and/or cached files you can safely remove). Look: sm01@stt008:~$ du -hs .local/share/Trash .mozilla 104M .local/share/Trash 120M .mozilla >> > the output of du -h is 34G >> >> Tip: "du -sh" to get the summary the output, but it will be also >> interesting to know what's the result of "df -h" to get the whole >> picture of your system space. >> >> > # df -h (...) Overall looks good. >> > Sorry I still don't know which files took the partition which / >> > mounted. >> >> > are there some easy way to see which files sit on which partition? You can also use "df" for files, it will print the partition on what they're are mounted. For example: sm01@stt008:~$ LANG=POSIX; df -h /data/backup/sm01/2010-09-12.tar.bz2 .mozilla Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 459G 401G 35G 93% /data/backup /dev/sda3 115G 22G 94G 19% / Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: pan.2011.09.21.16.24.10@gmail.com">http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.21.16.24.10@gmail.com |
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lina wrote at 2011-09-21 08:16 -0500:
> What's the acceptable saturation for the / partition, > > now my one reached 61% (377M of 658, wheezy), > another reached 87% (483M of 657M, sid) > > only saw it increases, never saw it decreases. > or maybe I should wait until reached 95% to ask then? > (now seems a bit earlier ^_^ .) In my opinion, percentage filled is moot (does not matter) unless perhaps the topic is filesystem behavior (like fragmentation). Otherwise free space is what matters. For example, 100MB free might be plenty much for a simple kiosk with a 4GB filesystem (98% filled). Or 1GB free on a workstation out of 1TB (99.99% filled). The answer to your question then, in free space, depends on usage, and whether the root partition is separated from /home, /var, etc. |
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On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:45:00 +0800, lina wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I followed Camaleón's suggestion, the output of >> > >> > cd / >> > du -h | grep "[0-9]M" | sort -n -r | less >> > >> > the first few ones even reached hundreds of M. >> >> Are those big figures for files or folders? >> >> > folders. > > > >> 636M * *./src/some_software >> 592M * *./src/some_software/ >> 543M * *./.local/share >> 543M * *./.local >> 540M * *./.local/share/Trash/files >> 540M * *./.local/share/Trash >> 494M * *./Documents/p >> 392M * *./Documents/c >> 375M * *./Documents/c/BS409 >> 356M * *./src/some_software/software/test >> 356M * *./.mozilla/firefox/3gbs90vf.default >> 356M * *./.mozilla/firefox >> 356M * *./.mozilla Then it's fine. I would worry when a file gets oversized, that may indicate a problem. But I would carefully watch your "/.local/share/Trash" and your Firefox profile. Both folders look very big to me, you may have there "erasable" files (deleted and/or cached files you can safely remove). Look: sm01@stt008:~$ du -hs .local/share/Trash .mozilla 104M * *.local/share/Trash 120M * *.mozilla I just made a clean. now better. Thanks ^_^ for your time. * >> > the output of du -h is 34G >> >> Tip: "du -sh" to get the summary the output, but it will be also >> interesting to know what's the result of "df -h" to get the whole >> picture of your system space. >> >> > *# df -h (...) Overall looks good. >> > Sorry I still don't know which files took the partition which / >> > mounted. >> >> > are there some easy way to see which files sit on which partition? You can also use "df" for files, it will print the partition on what they're are mounted. For example: sm01@stt008:~$ LANG=POSIX; df -h /data/backup/sm01/2010-09-12.tar.bz2 .mozilla Filesystem * * * * * *Size *Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 * * * * * * 459G *401G * 35G *93% /data/backup /dev/sda3 * * * * * * 115G * 22G * 94G *19% / The command #LANG=POSIX; df -h * is cool. Thanks, Question 1: still missing few MB, which I don't know being occupied by which files. welcome providing guess. and there is none invisible file in /. is it reasonable for below files? */# LANG=POSIX; df -h /lib Filesystem*********** Size* Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5************ 658M* 377M* 248M* 61% / 330M*** /lib 12M*** /etc/ 6.7M*** /bin 5.7M*** sbin/ 4.6M*** /lib32 1.3M*** /root/ 200K*** srv/ 4.0K*** selinux/ 4.0K*** lib64/ 16K*** lost+found/ 8.0K*** media/ 8.0K*** mnt/ Question 2: is it normal? # LANG=POSIX; df -h sys/ Filesystem*********** Size* Used Avail Use% Mounted on sysfs******************* 0**** 0**** 0** -* /sys I don't have /sys partition. Thanks, Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.21.16.24.10@gmail.com -- Best Regards, lina |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 01:16:33 +0800, lina wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote: (...) >> > are there some easy way to see which files sit on which partition? >> >> You can also use "df" for files, it will print the partition on what >> they're are mounted. For example: >> >> sm01@stt008:~$ LANG=POSIX; df -h /data/backup/sm01/2010-09-12.tar.bz2 >> .mozilla >> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 >> 459G 401G 35G 93% /data/backup /dev/sda3 115G >> 22G 94G 19% / >> >> > The command #LANG=POSIX; df -h * is cool. Thanks, Note: I set the LANG environment to posix because... 1/ My system is in Spanish so when posting some output to this mailing list it is desiderable to get the results in English 2/ I only have a small set of locales available (I mean, no "en_US.utf8" in this system): sm01@stt008:~$ locale -a C es_ES.utf8 POSIX > Question 1: still missing few MB, which I don't know being occupied by > which files. welcome providing guess. and there is none invisible file > in /. is it reasonable for below files? > > /# LANG=POSIX; df -h /lib > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda5 658M 377M 248M 61% / > > 330M /lib (...) Hmm... you "/lib" seems a bit bloated (mine is 94 MiB), I would look inside it: du -h /lib | grep "[0-9]M" | sort -n -r | less > Question 2: is it normal? > > # LANG=POSIX; df -h sys/ > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > sysfs 0 0 0 - /sys I hope yes :-) You can run "df -ah" to see all of the "available" partitions. > I don't have /sys partition. No, because its a "virtual" one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sysfs Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: pan.2011.09.21.17.34.49@gmail.com">http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.21.17.34.49@gmail.com |
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