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Old 09-20-2011, 10:45 AM
Sthu Deus
 
Default KDE does not log out or shut down.

Good time of the day.

I can not log out nor shut down from KDE in wheezy. - I have tried a
newly created user too w/o luck.

Should I file a bug report against it? OR I miss a package?

Also, I have errors w/ Akonadi on server self test at startup running
under "old" user (for newly created it is OK):

- control process not registered at D-bus

- server not registered at D-bus

- nepomuk search service not registered at D-Bus

- No resource agents found.

IS it possible to fix it, or I have to wipe the KDE configuration and
start a new?


Thanks for Your time.


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Old 09-20-2011, 03:01 PM
Camaleón
 
Default KDE does not log out or shut down.

On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:45:53 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> I can not log out nor shut down from KDE in wheezy. - I have tried a
> newly created user too w/o luck.

Does logout and shutdown work from command line?

> Should I file a bug report against it? OR I miss a package?

Hum... what is the behaviour you get? I mean, what happens when you try
to logout or shutdown? Can you see any on-screen message when you run
both options? Something at the logs (~/.xsession-errors)?

> Also, I have errors w/ Akonadi on server self test at startup running
> under "old" user (for newly created it is OK):
>
> - control process not registered at D-bus
>
> - server not registered at D-bus
>
> - nepomuk search service not registered at D-Bus
>
> - No resource agents found.
>
> IS it possible to fix it, or I have to wipe the KDE configuration and
> start a new?

I guess the above messages are pretty common in today's KDE desktop, I
mean, nothing serious to worry about although it needs to be corrected,
of course.

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Old 09-20-2011, 11:19 PM
Jude DaShiell
 
Default KDE does not log out or shut down.

Is kde supposed to make some kind of sound when you get to the login
prompt? If not default behavior could it be arranged for that to happen?



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Old 09-21-2011, 01:11 AM
Scott Ferguson
 
Default KDE does not log out or shut down.

On 21/09/11 09:19, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Is kde supposed to make some kind of sound when you get to the login
> prompt?

Yes - unless you change the default theme

System Settings => Notifications => System Notifications => Applications
=> Sytem Notification Configuration:-
Event Source = KDE System Notifications
Login = Play Sound
Default sound is KDE-Sys-Log-In-Short.ogg
You can modify the default sound or change it to an action (including
speech).

NOTE: check:-
System Settings => Notifications => System Bell => unselect "Use System
Bell instead of System Notification" (the bell uses motherboard speaker
which may not work).

And also check:-
System Settings => Notifications => System Notifications => Player
Settings => ensure you have selected "Use the KDE Sound System".

Check the existence of the default sound (for login):-
$ ls /usr/share/sounds/ | grep KDE-Sys-Log-In-Short.ogg
Check notify settings:-
$ cat ~/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc

If it still doesn't work, but your sound system does, check:-
~/.xsessions-errors
for clues (look for a line calling the start up sound eg.
KDE-Sys-Log-In-Short.ogg)


> If not default behavior could it be arranged for that to happen?

Yes - you can change the System Settings as above.

Alternatively you can install beep and call it at login by a number of
methods.

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Old 09-21-2011, 07:02 AM
Sthu Deus
 
Default KDE does not log out or shut down.

Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:

>> I can not log out nor shut down from KDE in wheezy. - I have tried a
>> newly created user too w/o luck.
>
>Does logout and shutdown work from command line?

Ah... Do You mean from ttyN under root? - For I do not know how to log
out from KDE from x-terminal.

>> Should I file a bug report against it? OR I miss a package?
>
>Hum... what is the behaviour you get? I mean, what happens when you
>try to logout or shutdown? Can you see any on-screen message when you
>run both options? Something at the logs (~/.xsession-errors)?

Just nothing happens - the dialog window vanishes away and that's it - I
can still use the session. It is the same for both. No any on-screen
messages for both options.

Here is the content of error file since a new user has started the
very first KDE session:

http://pastebin.com/WshrSsAx

>> Also, I have errors w/ Akonadi on server self test at startup running
>> under "old" user (for newly created it is OK):
>>
>> - control process not registered at D-bus
>>
>> - server not registered at D-bus
>>
>> - nepomuk search service not registered at D-Bus
>>
>> - No resource agents found.
>>
>> IS it possible to fix it, or I have to wipe the KDE configuration and
>> start a new?
>
>I guess the above messages are pretty common in today's KDE desktop, I
>mean, nothing serious to worry about although it needs to be
>corrected, of course.

OK. Thank You.


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Old 09-21-2011, 01:56 PM
Camaleón
 
Default KDE does not log out or shut down.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:02:20 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
>
>>> I can not log out nor shut down from KDE in wheezy. - I have tried a
>>> newly created user too w/o luck.
>>
>>Does logout and shutdown work from command line?
>
> Ah... Do You mean from ttyN under root? - For I do not know how to log
> out from KDE from x-terminal.

Okay, you can run these two tests:

1/ Try to shutdown as usual by running "shutdown -h now" from konsole

2/ And then you can try to logout by running "killall kdeinit" or simply
"kdekillall" (recheck these commands, maybe your version of KDE also
allows another method to get the job done by means of "dcop something-to-
logout") :-)

Note: killing kde init processes will effectively destroy your kde
session, just ensure you don't have any open document nor program pending
to be saved before you run it.

>>> Should I file a bug report against it? OR I miss a package?
>>
>>Hum... what is the behaviour you get? I mean, what happens when you try
>>to logout or shutdown? Can you see any on-screen message when you run
>>both options? Something at the logs (~/.xsession-errors)?
>
> Just nothing happens - the dialog window vanishes away and that's it - I
> can still use the session. It is the same for both. No any on-screen
> messages for both options.

Weird :-?

> Here is the content of error file since a new user has started the very
> first KDE session:
>
> http://pastebin.com/WshrSsAx

(...)

Thanks for the log... True is that I can't see a line related to the
shutdown/logout error but it's plenty of the other Akonadi/Nepomuk
warnings you also told us.

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Old 09-21-2011, 02:06 PM
Sthu Deus
 
Default KDE does not log out or shut down.

Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:

>>>Does logout and shutdown work from command line?
>>
>> Ah... Do You mean from ttyN under root? - For I do not know how to
>> log out from KDE from x-terminal.
>
>Okay, you can run these two tests:
>
>1/ Try to shutdown as usual by running "shutdown -h now" from konsole

Now I got it. Yes, it works.

>2/ And then you can try to logout by running "killall kdeinit" or
>simply "kdekillall" (recheck these commands, maybe your version of KDE
>also allows another method to get the job done by means of "dcop
>something-to- logout") :-)

OK. For the "new" user there is no "kdekillall", whereas "killall
kdeinit" says there is no such a process. What I do for now is killing
all the user process that includes all the KDE-related stuff.

>> Just nothing happens - the dialog window vanishes away and that's it
>> - I can still use the session. It is the same for both. No any
>> on-screen messages for both options.
>
>Weird :-?

It is the risen why we are discussing it here.

>> Here is the content of error file since a new user has started the
>> very first KDE session:
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/WshrSsAx
>
>(...)
>
>Thanks for the log... True is that I can't see a line related to the
>shutdown/logout error but it's plenty of the other Akonadi/Nepomuk
>warnings you also told us.

Me too, but I have brought it in case You may find something else
leading to my problem, or some other stuff can fixed and that
occasionaly will fix/install the missing package if any.


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Old 09-21-2011, 02:51 PM
Camaleón
 
Default KDE does not log out or shut down.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:06:30 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
>
>>>>Does logout and shutdown work from command line?
>>>
>>> Ah... Do You mean from ttyN under root? - For I do not know how to log
>>> out from KDE from x-terminal.
>>
>>Okay, you can run these two tests:
>>
>>1/ Try to shutdown as usual by running "shutdown -h now" from konsole
>
> Now I got it. Yes, it works.

Good. That means KDE is somehow preventing itself to be properly
shutdown. Maybe a proccess in the background making noise? :-?

>>2/ And then you can try to logout by running "killall kdeinit" or simply
>>"kdekillall" (recheck these commands, maybe your version of KDE also
>>allows another method to get the job done by means of "dcop
>>something-to- logout") :-)
>
> OK. For the "new" user there is no "kdekillall", whereas "killall
> kdeinit" says there is no such a process. What I do for now is killing
> all the user process that includes all the KDE-related stuff.

Okay, then try with the "old" method: go to a tty (ctrl+alt+f1), log in
as root and fall into "init 1", that will close your current X session.
Then "su -" as your user, and run "startx". Once in, try to logout as
usual, from the K menu.

>>> Just nothing happens - the dialog window vanishes away and that's it -
>>> I can still use the session. It is the same for both. No any on-screen
>>> messages for both options.
>>
>>Weird :-?
>
> It is the risen why we are discussing it here.

Sure X-)

I meant, it looks like KDE doesn't "notice" the signal to run the
commands when you press the corresponding buttons from the menu as I
would have expected a warning or error to be printed on the screen
advising the user that something went wrong.

>>> Here is the content of error file since a new user has started the
>>> very first KDE session:
>>>
>>> http://pastebin.com/WshrSsAx
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>Thanks for the log... True is that I can't see a line related to the
>>shutdown/logout error but it's plenty of the other Akonadi/Nepomuk
>>warnings you also told us.
>
> Me too, but I have brought it in case You may find something else
> leading to my problem, or some other stuff can fixed and that
> occasionaly will fix/install the missing package if any.

IIRC, this error was not present for the new user, right?

That may mean that you have to reset/resit your current kde user profile,
but for the kde desktop I dunno what folder to rename, hum... maybe some
KDE user of the list can give you some hints on this :-?

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Old 09-25-2011, 03:55 PM
Sthu Deus
 
Default KDE does not log out or shut down.

Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:

>Good. That means KDE is somehow preventing itself to be properly
>shutdown. Maybe a proccess in the background making noise? :-?

No Idea... If You have one, please w /me too.
For instance, LXDE works well - I mean logs out.

>Okay, then try with the "old" method: go to a tty (ctrl+alt+f1), log
>in as root and fall into "init 1", that will close your current X
>session. Then "su -" as your user, and run "startx". Once in, try to
>logout as usual, from the K menu.

Well. I can not start kde - for startkde fails to start - stating that
$DISPLAY variable is not set or impossible to connect to X server. And
startx starts LXDE - that I have no logout problem with.

>I meant, it looks like KDE doesn't "notice" the signal to run the
>commands when you press the corresponding buttons from the menu as I
>would have expected a warning or error to be printed on the screen
>advising the user that something went wrong.

Yea. And nothing works: shortkeys, nor menu item.

>>>> Here is the content of error file since a new user has started the
>>>> very first KDE session:
>>>>
>>>> http://pastebin.com/WshrSsAx
>>>
>>>(...)
>>>
>>>Thanks for the log... True is that I can't see a line related to the
>>>shutdown/logout error but it's plenty of the other Akonadi/Nepomuk
>>>warnings you also told us.
>>
>> Me too, but I have brought it in case You may find something else
>> leading to my problem, or some other stuff can fixed and that
>> occasionaly will fix/install the missing package if any.
>
>IIRC, this error was not present for the new user, right?

Well. It is *the whole error log* for a newly created user - from the
start of its session till logging out attempt.

>That may mean that you have to reset/resit your current kde user
>profile, but for the kde desktop I dunno what folder to rename, hum...
>maybe some KDE user of the list can give you some hints on this :-?

Good idea I will ask there. Thank You.


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Old 09-26-2011, 01:25 PM
Camaleón
 
Default KDE does not log out or shut down.

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 22:55:55 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
>
>>Good. That means KDE is somehow preventing itself to be properly
>>shutdown. Maybe a proccess in the background making noise? :-?
>
> No Idea... If You have one, please w /me too. For instance, LXDE works
> well - I mean logs out.

No idea, sorry.

It must me something related to dbus or whatever processing system
employs KDE to communicate applications with the low level stack, I mean,
whatever is preventing the shutdown inside the desktop is not an
application or a process that you could "kill".

Gee.. desktops are becoming more and more complex by every hour :-)

>>Okay, then try with the "old" method: go to a tty (ctrl+alt+f1), log in
>>as root and fall into "init 1", that will close your current X session.
>>Then "su -" as your user, and run "startx". Once in, try to logout as
>>usual, from the K menu.
>
> Well. I can not start kde - for startkde fails to start - stating that
> $DISPLAY variable is not set or impossible to connect to X server. And
> startx starts LXDE - that I have no logout problem with.

Ah, I see. You have another desktop installed and set as default. Hum...
maybe you can try with one of these options:

How to select multiple desktop environment using startx?
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=59562

(it's just to test, you can even manually edit the ".xinitrc" file and
point it to KDE instaead of LXDE and change it afterwards)

>>I meant, it looks like KDE doesn't "notice" the signal to run the
>>commands when you press the corresponding buttons from the menu as I
>>would have expected a warning or error to be printed on the screen
>>advising the user that something went wrong.
>
> Yea. And nothing works: shortkeys, nor menu item.

What KDE version are you running?

>>IIRC, this error was not present for the new user, right?
>
> Well. It is *the whole error log* for a newly created user - from the
> start of its session till logging out attempt.

Okay, but I meant if -despite the log- that Akonadi error was also
present on a fresh new created user. IIRC, you said the error was not
reproducible on a new user :-?

>>That may mean that you have to reset/resit your current kde user
>>profile, but for the kde desktop I dunno what folder to rename, hum...
>>maybe some KDE user of the list can give you some hints on this :-?
>
> Good idea I will ask there. Thank You.

Well, I was thinking in "this" same list :-) I'm sure there are many KDE
users around here.

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