Hello everyone1
First: I'm new here, but a longterm Linux user. No experience however with
any GUI, I'm blind.
So I installed X and Gnome to test Orca - screenreader again. When I start X
no more keyboard action. The system continues running flawlessly, had a music
player running. Had a look at the Xorg.0.log and saw a few problems, mainly to
do with graphics. I tested it both with my selfmade kernel and the
2.6.32-something Debian supplied one. What would you need to work this out
with me?
My normal setup:
Debian Squeeze
Kernel: 2.6.38 (SMP, preempt)
Keyboard; Standard PS/2
Mouse: None
Thanks for any help and hints.
Kindest regards
Julien
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09-17-2011, 02:05 PM
Camaleón
X and no Keyboard (debian Squeeze)
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:24:15 +0200, Julien Claassen wrote:
> Hello everyone1
> First: I'm new here, but a longterm Linux user. No experience however
> with
> any GUI, I'm blind.
Hi and welcome :-)
> So I installed X and Gnome to test Orca - screenreader again. When I
> start X
> no more keyboard action. The system continues running flawlessly, had a
> music player running. Had a look at the Xorg.0.log and saw a few
> problems, mainly to do with graphics. I tested it both with my selfmade
> kernel and the 2.6.32-something Debian supplied one. What would you need
> to work this out with me?
Does stopping Orca ("Insert+q") make any improvement?
Does the keyboard works when you are in a tty ("Ctrl+Alt+F1")?
Maybe you can upload or attach to the list the whole "/var/log/
Xorg.0.log" file so we can review it.
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09-17-2011, 02:13 PM
Julien Claassen
X and no Keyboard (debian Squeeze)
Hi Camaleon!
When I say, tha I have no keyboard, I meant no keyboard for the whole
system. I have to press the power button. Orca doesn't start. The first time
you have to put something in a config-file or just start Orca with alt+F2 for
exec command and then use Orca's menus or whatever to make it start everytime
you log in. So it shouldn't be Orca.
My Xorg.0.log is attached. If that doesn't get through, please shout and
I'll either put it in a mail or upload on my webserver.
Warmly yours and thanks
Julien
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X.Org X Server 1.7.7
Release Date: 2010-05-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32.29-dsa-ia32 i686 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.38crypto #5 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 17 10:03:16 CEST 2011 i686
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38crypto root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=normal quiet
Build Date: 19 February 2011 02:37:36PM
xorg-server 2:1.7.7-13 (Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>)
Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
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(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Sep 17 10:33:15 2011
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
(==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
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(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
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(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
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Entry deleted from font path.
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(==) FontPath set to:
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/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,
built-ins
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(II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
(II) Loader magic: 0x81ecca0
(II) Module ABI versions:
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X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(--) using VT number 7
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(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(==) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 0
(==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 1
(==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 2
(==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
(==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
(II) LoadModule: "nouveau"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
(II) Module nouveau: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 0.0.15
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
(II) LoadModule: "nv"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nv_drv.so
(II) Module nv: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 2.1.17
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
(II) LoadModule: "vesa"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
(II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 2.3.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
(II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
(II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.6.901, module version = 0.4.2
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
(II) NOUVEAU driver Date: Tue Mar 16 13:08:37 2010 +1000
(II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
RIVA TNT (NV04)
RIVA TNT2 (NV05)
GeForce 256 (NV10)
GeForce 2 (NV11, NV15)
GeForce 4MX (NV17, NV18)
GeForce 3 (NV20)
GeForce 4Ti (NV25, NV28)
GeForce FX (NV3x)
GeForce 6 (NV4x)
GeForce 7 (G7x)
GeForce 8 (G8x)
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(II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
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RIVA TNT2 (NV05)
GeForce 256 (NV10)
GeForce 2 (NV11, NV15)
GeForce 4MX (NV17, NV18)
GeForce 3 (NV20)
GeForce 4Ti (NV25, NV28)
GeForce FX (NV3x)
GeForce 6 (NV4x)
GeForce 7 (G7x)
GeForce 8 (G8x)
(II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
(II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00@00:0d:0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:0d.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
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drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card6
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drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1
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drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1
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drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1
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drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1
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drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1
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drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card15
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card1
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card2
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card3
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card4
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card5
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card6
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card7
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card8
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card9
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card10
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card11
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card12
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card13
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card14
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card15
(EE) [drm] failed to open device
(EE) VESA: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
(II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
(II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.so
(II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 0.0.2
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
(**) FBDEV(0): claimed PCI slot 0@0:13:0
(II) FBDEV(0): using default device
(WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support
(II) FBDEV(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
"Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 4/4
(==) FBDEV(0): Depth 4, (==) framebuffer bpp 4
(==) FBDEV(0): Default visual is StaticColor
(==) FBDEV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(II) FBDEV(0): hardware: VGA16 VGA (video memory: 64kB)
(II) FBDEV(0): checking modes against framebuffer device...
(II) FBDEV(0): checking modes against monitor...
(--) FBDEV(0): Virtual size is 640x480 (pitch 640)
(**) FBDEV(0): Built-in mode "current": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 59.9 Hz
(II) FBDEV(0): Modeline "current"x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync -csync (31.5 kHz)
(==) FBDEV(0): DPI set to (96, 96)
(EE) FBDEV(0): EGA/VGA planes are not yet supported by the fbdev driver
09-17-2011, 02:37 PM
Camaleón
X and no Keyboard (debian Squeeze)
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:13:44 +0200, Julien Claassen wrote:
> When I say, tha I have no keyboard, I meant no keyboard for the whole
> system. I have to press the power button.
You mean the system is not responding or just that keyboard is missing
and you have to power it off?
> Orca doesn't start. The first time you have to put something in a
> config-file or just start Orca with alt+F2 for exec command and then
> use Orca's menus or whatever to make it start everytime you log in. So
> it shouldn't be Orca.
Okay, let's forget about Orca then.
> My Xorg.0.log is attached. If that doesn't get through, please shout
> and
> I'll either put it in a mail or upload on my webserver.
(...)
Thanks for the log.
By reading it I can see many errors coming from the VGA -as you pointed
in your first message- but what surprises me is not seeing a line about
the input drivers (keyboard and mouse) :-?
Can you put here the result of this command?
dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-input
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Camaleón
X and no Keyboard (debian Squeeze)
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:13:44 +0200, Julien Claassen wrote:
> When I say, tha I have no keyboard, I meant no keyboard for the whole
> system. I have to press the power button.
You mean the system is not responding or just that keyboard is missing
and you have to power it off?
> Orca doesn't start. The first time you have to put something in a
> config-file or just start Orca with alt+F2 for exec command and then
> use Orca's menus or whatever to make it start everytime you log in. So
> it shouldn't be Orca.
Okay, let's forget about Orca then.
> My Xorg.0.log is attached. If that doesn't get through, please shout
> and
> I'll either put it in a mail or upload on my webserver.
(...)
Thanks for the log.
By reading it I can see many errors coming from the VGA -as you pointed
in your first message- but what surprises me is not seeing a line about
the input drivers (keyboard and mouse) :-?
Can you put here the result of this command?
dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-input
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09-17-2011, 03:29 PM
Julien Claassen
X and no Keyboard (debian Squeeze)
Hello Camaleon!
I mean, the moment X starts, the keyboard doesn't respond at all. the
keyboard as such is nicely connected and everything.
Here's the output from the filtered package list:
# dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-input
ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.3.2-6 X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii xserver-xorg-input-kbd 1:1.4.0-2 X.Org X server -- keyboard input driver
Doesn't look like much, but keyboard is there. Should there be a mouse input
driver to make it work?
Another thing, at one point there was something in the Xorg.0.log about
reconfiguring udev to not automatically create some things. Could that be
something valuable?
***
(II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no
devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
***
Thank you!
Warm regards
Julien
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:29:57 +0200, Julien Claassen wrote:
> Hello Camaleon!
> I mean, the moment X starts, the keyboard doesn't respond at all. the
> keyboard as such is nicely connected and everything.
> Here's the output from the filtered package list:
> # dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-input
> ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.3.2-6
> X.Org X server -- evdev input driver ii xserver-xorg-input-kbd
> 1:1.4.0-2 X.Org X server -- keyboard
> input driver
>
> Doesn't look like much, but keyboard is there. Should there be a
> mouse input
> driver to make it work?
That should be fine, I guess.
> Another thing, at one point there was something in the Xorg.0.log
> about
> reconfiguring udev to not automatically create some things. Could that
> be something valuable?
> ***
> (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If
> no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
> ***
Ah, good catch. Although I also get that message this can be worth a try
:-)
But how to disable "AutoDevices"? I think that's a Xorg setting, let me
google for that...
Hum, found this tip¹, while it's for wheezy it can be also valid for
squeeze): it seems you have to put this stanza in your "/etc/X11/
xorg.conf" file (create that file if it is not there).
But I'm afraid you will a keyboard to do that O:-). Can you grab a USB
keyboard and attach it to the computer? Another option can be accessing
to the machine via ssh and run the commands from a remote computer.
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09-17-2011, 06:04 PM
Ralf Mardorf
X and no Keyboard (debian Squeeze)
Hi Julien
nice to read you here too.
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 16:24 +0000,
debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org wrote:
> # dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-input
> ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.3.2-6
> X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
> ii xserver-xorg-input-kbd 1:1.4.0-2
> X.Org X server -- keyboard input driver
As long as you aren't using a /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I suspect that
packages are useless (I'm not sure about that . Usually Debian doesn't
use an xorg.conf to set up X. Please try running Debian with an
xorg.conf.
Wow, my Debian xorg.conf is useless as an example for you, since it
doesn't have entries for keyboard and mouse.
I found something for my Suse install, you might try this for xorg.conf
I'm not sure, since you're using braille, if you need an entry for vesa
and monitor settings to start X with an xorg.conf.
Perhaps you need to add
Section "Device"
Driver "vesa"
EndSection
Hth,
Ralle
OT PS: Some might wait for replies off-list, I'll write you ASAP, I'm
short in time at the moment, pardon , especially to S..
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09-18-2011, 08:07 AM
Julien Claassen
X and no Keyboard (debian Squeeze)
Hello Camaleon!
I've got it fixed, finally! :-) I googled some more on the side and found a
guide from gentoo. I ended up just copying another stanza from an example
xorg.conf and now it works!
Thanks for al the help, it was very valuable to me.
Kind regards
Julien
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 10:07:56 +0200, Julien Claassen wrote:
> Hello Camaleon!
> I've got it fixed, finally! :-)
Hey, that's great! :-)
> I googled some more on the side and
> found a
> guide from gentoo. I ended up just copying another stanza from an
> example xorg.conf and now it works!
> Thanks for al the help, it was very valuable to me. Kind regards
Could it be possible that you send to the list what was the stanza you
added to get the keyboard working? That will be of much help for other
users experiencing your problem.
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X and no Keyboard (debian Squeeze)
. Usually Debian doesn't
