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Old 07-07-2011, 10:02 AM
Sthu Deus
 
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Good time of the day.


Here are:

https://launchpad.net/~nutznboltz/+archive/tesseract/+sourcepub/1729019/+listing-archive-extra

plenty of missing in Debian 6 language packages w/ the updated program
itself.

Can't it be easily backported to D6 ones it is in Ubuntu?

I would like to do it myself, but I never did that.


Thanks for Your time.


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Old 07-07-2011, 02:18 PM
Hugo Vanwoerkom
 
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Sthu Deus wrote:

Good time of the day.


Here are:

https://launchpad.net/~nutznboltz/+archive/tesseract/+sourcepub/1729019/+listing-archive-extra

plenty of missing in Debian 6 language packages w/ the updated program
itself.

Can't it be easily backported to D6 ones it is in Ubuntu?

I would like to do it myself, but I never did that.





Could you rephrase what the problem is with tesseract?
In Squeeze?

Hugo



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Old 07-07-2011, 02:18 PM
Hugo Vanwoerkom
 
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Sthu Deus wrote:

Good time of the day.


Here are:

https://launchpad.net/~nutznboltz/+archive/tesseract/+sourcepub/1729019/+listing-archive-extra

plenty of missing in Debian 6 language packages w/ the updated program
itself.

Can't it be easily backported to D6 ones it is in Ubuntu?

I would like to do it myself, but I never did that.





Could you rephrase what the problem is with tesseract?
In Squeeze?

Hugo



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Old 07-07-2011, 02:52 PM
Camaleón
 
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On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:02:40 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> Here are:
>
> https://launchpad.net/~nutznboltz/+archive/tesseract/+sourcepub/1729019/+listing-archive-extra
>
> plenty of missing in Debian 6 language packages w/ the updated program
> itself.
>
> Can't it be easily backported to D6 ones it is in Ubuntu?
>
> I would like to do it myself, but I never did that.

You can suggest the package to be backported (by means of the backports
mailing list) to stable, although this can be a problem because it seems
that 3.x is not backwards compatible with 2.x files... but is a bit
strange that sid still has 2.x branch instead 3.x. Is 3.x still in
development or is now Tesseract's stable branch?

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Old 07-08-2011, 10:56 AM
Camaleón
 
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El 2011-07-07 a las 13:50 -0700, sthu deus escribió:

(resending to the list)

> On 07/07/2011, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:02:40 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> >
> >> Here are:
> >>
> >> https://launchpad.net/~nutznboltz/+archive/tesseract/+sourcepub/1729019/+listing-archive-extra
> >>
> >> plenty of missing in Debian 6 language packages w/ the updated program
> >> itself.
> >>
> >> Can't it be easily backported to D6 ones it is in Ubuntu?
> >>
> >> I would like to do it myself, but I never did that.
> >
> > You can suggest the package to be backported (by means of the backports
> > mailing list) to stable, although this can be a problem because it seems
> > that 3.x is not backwards compatible with 2.x files... but is a bit
> > strange that sid still has 2.x branch instead 3.x. Is 3.x still in
> > development or is now Tesseract's stable branch?
> >
> How do You see which package belongs to which repo?

What do you mean? Please, expand that a bit :-)

> - Do You install all the repos on Your computer?

Hum... I'm not sure what repos are you referring to (backports, Ubuntu
launchpad...)?

I would not mix Ubuntu packages into a Debian installation. Have you
considered in compiling the apckage from Tesseract site?

> - When I try to see from on the web - I see all of them are in single
> dir. - and only repo info files do know what is where.

I'm totally lost here, sorry :-). What are you trying to do?

(...)

Ah, I've seen that you already posted into backports mailing list. Yes,
you may ask to Tesseract Debian package maintainers for an update to
the 3.x branch so it can be then backported. The only problem I see here
(as I already said) is that backporting to the new version will render
unusable the old files ;-(

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Old 07-14-2011, 08:01 AM
Sthu Deus
 
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Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:

>> How do You see which package belongs to which repo?
>
>What do you mean? Please, expand that a bit :-)

I meant that if surfing through http/ftp directories of several repos
like testing and stable, then all the packages are mixed - You do not
know from the dir.s architecture which package belongs to which repo in
the case.

>> - Do You install all the repos on Your computer?
>
>Hum... I'm not sure what repos are you referring to (backports, Ubuntu
>launchpad...)?

No, Debian repos: stable, backports, testing, sid...

>I would not mix Ubuntu packages into a Debian installation. Have you
>considered in compiling the apckage from Tesseract site?

I thought to install Ubuntu in KVM and go on in case no luck w/
tesseract 3 in Debian.

>Ah, I've seen that you already posted into backports mailing list.
>Yes, you may ask to Tesseract Debian package maintainers for an update
>to the 3.x branch so it can be then backported. The only problem I see
>here (as I already said) is that backporting to the new version will
>render unusable the old files ;-(

Who needs old files when new arrive?


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Old 07-15-2011, 11:52 AM
Camaleón
 
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On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:01:59 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
>
>>> How do You see which package belongs to which repo?
>>
>>What do you mean? Please, expand that a bit :-)
>
> I meant that if surfing through http/ftp directories of several repos
> like testing and stable, then all the packages are mixed - You do not
> know from the dir.s architecture which package belongs to which repo in
> the case.

Hum... not in Debian and many other distributions, look:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tesseract/

Individual .deb files display package architecture and version.

>>> - Do You install all the repos on Your computer?
>>
>>Hum... I'm not sure what repos are you referring to (backports, Ubuntu
>>launchpad...)?
>
> No, Debian repos: stable, backports, testing, sid...

Ah, then no.

In my computers I only have defined "main/contrib/non-free" the "update"
repo and in servers I also add "volatile" (or the new one that replaces
it), but no more. Should I need anything else coming from a third-party
repo I would manually add it, install whatever I need and afterwards,
remove it.

>>I would not mix Ubuntu packages into a Debian installation. Have you
>>considered in compiling the apckage from Tesseract site?
>
> I thought to install Ubuntu in KVM and go on in case no luck w/
> tesseract 3 in Debian.

Did you try to compile tesseract for your Debian version? You can do that
on the virtual machine, just to see how it goes :-?

>>Ah, I've seen that you already posted into backports mailing list. Yes,
>>you may ask to Tesseract Debian package maintainers for an update to the
>>3.x branch so it can be then backported. The only problem I see here (as
>>I already said) is that backporting to the new version will render
>>unusable the old files ;-(
>
> Who needs old files when new arrive?

Well, it can be years of work that now cannot render with the new
version... you will get very angry birds (oops... sorry, I mean "users",
angry users) if you update the package to the last version that is not
backwards compatible :-)

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Old 07-15-2011, 11:52 AM
Camaleón
 
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On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:01:59 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
>
>>> How do You see which package belongs to which repo?
>>
>>What do you mean? Please, expand that a bit :-)
>
> I meant that if surfing through http/ftp directories of several repos
> like testing and stable, then all the packages are mixed - You do not
> know from the dir.s architecture which package belongs to which repo in
> the case.

Hum... not in Debian and many other distributions, look:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tesseract/

Individual .deb files display package architecture and version.

>>> - Do You install all the repos on Your computer?
>>
>>Hum... I'm not sure what repos are you referring to (backports, Ubuntu
>>launchpad...)?
>
> No, Debian repos: stable, backports, testing, sid...

Ah, then no.

In my computers I only have defined "main/contrib/non-free" the "update"
repo and in servers I also add "volatile" (or the new one that replaces
it), but no more. Should I need anything else coming from a third-party
repo I would manually add it, install whatever I need and afterwards,
remove it.

>>I would not mix Ubuntu packages into a Debian installation. Have you
>>considered in compiling the apckage from Tesseract site?
>
> I thought to install Ubuntu in KVM and go on in case no luck w/
> tesseract 3 in Debian.

Did you try to compile tesseract for your Debian version? You can do that
on the virtual machine, just to see how it goes :-?

>>Ah, I've seen that you already posted into backports mailing list. Yes,
>>you may ask to Tesseract Debian package maintainers for an update to the
>>3.x branch so it can be then backported. The only problem I see here (as
>>I already said) is that backporting to the new version will render
>>unusable the old files ;-(
>
> Who needs old files when new arrive?

Well, it can be years of work that now cannot render with the new
version... you will get very angry birds (oops... sorry, I mean "users",
angry users) if you update the package to the last version that is not
backwards compatible :-)

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Old 07-15-2011, 03:00 PM
Sthu Deus
 
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Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:

>Did you try to compile tesseract for your Debian version? You can do
>that on the virtual machine, just to see how it goes :-?

OK, I'll give it a try.

>> Who needs old files when new arrive?

>Well, it can be years of work that now cannot render with the new
>version... you will get very angry birds (oops... sorry, I mean
>"users", angry users) if you update the package to the last version
>that is not backwards compatible :-)

Well. It will be in the backports repo, so, those who still needs the
old one w/ its updates still can have it, while others can have a newer
version.

Or I miss something?


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Old 07-15-2011, 04:05 PM
Camaleón
 
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:00:18 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

>>> Who needs old files when new arrive?
>
>>Well, it can be years of work that now cannot render with the new
>>version... you will get very angry birds (oops... sorry, I mean "users",
>>angry users) if you update the package to the last version that is not
>>backwards compatible :-)
>
> Well. It will be in the backports repo, so, those who still needs the
> old one w/ its updates still can have it, while others can have a newer
> version.
>
> Or I miss something?

That would be true if both versions (2.x and 3.x) "coexist", but I'm not
sure how Debian will handle this... that is, will 2.x be superseded by
3.x or will it be maintained apart? :-?

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