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Old 06-20-2011, 04:55 PM
Camaleón
 
Default After fresh install to stable now KMail crashes

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:08:58 +0100, AG wrote:

> On 20/06/11 16:45, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:12:14 +0100, AG wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Taking prior advice on avoiding the apparently high degree of
>>> volatility in the current testing, at least as far as my experience
>>> has been so far,
>>>
>> The opposite applies for me. Testing has been very stable, despite its
>> name.
>>
>>
> Hey Camaleón
>
> That has definitely *not* been my experience given the number of issues
> I've come to this list about and that is after a completely fresh
> installation. It was reaching the point that I had begun to dread
> logging out for fear of what I would find broken/ missing/ frozen the
> next time I logged on. Hence the re-install to squeeze ... and guess
> what? Yet another problem!

Maybe you need to re-think your layout.

Since years I've been told that mixing environments (I mean, the two big
ones, GNOME and KDE) and their applications was not a problem. I've never
agreed with that possition and always tried to keep these two as separate
as possible to avoid problems.

Nowadays, GNOME and KDE are both needing from specific applications to be
launched and I find that -specially KDE- is starting (since KDE 4.x) to
make (ab)use of db backends for almost anything, for running your system
session and also applications.

In brief, I'm sure most of the users running a pure KDE environment do
not face all that problems. Well, yes, but that's another question and we
should add a new variable... KDE 4.6 is more stable than KDE 4.4, that's
another well-known fact ;-)

So calm down and go resolving your crashes with a high dose of patience.
But don't give up! "Patience is a virtue".

>> KDE SC (at least starting from 4.6) will be highly dependant on akonadi
>> and nepomuk so I would first ensure both services are properly
>> configured and running, just in case...
>>
>>
>>
> Any suggestions on how to do this, because so far - touch wood - this is
> the only issue I've come across, but then again, the system has only
> been running a couple of hours so there is still time.

That depends... are you running Kmail from a KDE session or are you in
GNOME or...? Most of the KDE settings (like Akonadi/Nepomuk setup) are
configured from "User Settings" or whatever it is named now :-), so I
would start from that.

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Old 06-20-2011, 05:13 PM
lee
 
Default After fresh install to stable now KMail crashes

AG <computing.account@googlemail.com> writes:

> Hello again
>
> Taking prior advice on avoiding the apparently high degree of
> volatility in the current testing, at least as far as my experience
> has been so far, I reinstalled to stable (squeeze),

Volatility?

> and now after having configured everything, so KMail starts to crash.

What happens when you run it in ddd?


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Old 06-20-2011, 07:19 PM
AG
 
Default After fresh install to stable now KMail crashes

On 20/06/11 16:45, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:12:14 +0100, AG wrote:



Taking prior advice on avoiding the apparently high degree of volatility
in the current testing, at least as far as my experience has been so
far,


The opposite applies for me. Testing has been very stable, despite its
name.

I've only reported two small bugs for two applications (quadrapassel and
gnibbles, a couple of gnome games) that seems to be solved for now and
currently I'm only seeing one glicth with gnome-keyring. But nothing more.

I'm running GNOME.



I reinstalled to stable (squeeze), and now after having configured
everything, so KMail starts to crash.

I can open it just fine and it runs for a bit and then once it has been
minised to the system tray it crashes.

This is the debug report:


(...)

KDE SC (at least starting from 4.6) will be highly dependant on akonadi
and nepomuk so I would first ensure both services are properly configured
and running, just in case...

Greetings,


Well, so far so good. I deleted the two Akonadi folders and rebooted,
and it has been a few hours now and no more crashes, so I'm taking this
as a positive outcome.


Cheers

AG


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Old 06-21-2011, 12:08 AM
he who
 
Default After fresh install to stable now KMail crashes

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:19 PM, AG <computing.account@googlemail.com> wrote:

On 20/06/11 16:45, Camaleón wrote:


On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:12:14 +0100, AG wrote:



*


Taking prior advice on avoiding the apparently high degree of volatility

in the current testing, at least as far as my experience has been so

far,

* *


The opposite applies for me. Testing has been very stable, despite its

name.



I've only reported two small bugs for two applications (quadrapassel and

gnibbles, a couple of gnome games) that seems to be solved for now and

currently I'm only seeing one glicth with gnome-keyring. But nothing more.



I'm running GNOME.



*


I reinstalled to stable (squeeze), and now after having configured

everything, so KMail starts to crash.



I can open it just fine and it runs for a bit and then once it has been

minised to the system tray it crashes.



This is the debug report:

* *


(...)



KDE SC (at least starting from 4.6) will be highly dependant on akonadi

and nepomuk so I would first ensure both services are properly configured

and running, just in case...



Greetings,



*


Well, so far so good. *I deleted the two Akonadi folders and rebooted, and it has been a few hours now and no more crashes, so I'm taking this as a positive outcome.




Is it this "unreproducible" bug?:

*http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=580706

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Old 06-21-2011, 12:12 AM
he who
 
Default After fresh install to stable now KMail crashes

(I don't like gmail.)

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Old 06-21-2011, 03:51 AM
 
Default After fresh install to stable now KMail crashes

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:12:32 -0700
he who <hewho7@gmail.com> wrote:

> (I don't like gmail.)
>

Try claws mail.


Brian


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Old 06-21-2011, 07:46 AM
lee
 
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Please do not send HTML messages, especially not to mailing lists.


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Old 06-21-2011, 06:48 PM
he who
 
Default After fresh install to stable now KMail crashes

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:46 AM, lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
> Please do not send HTML messages, especially not to mailing lists.
>
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Why I wrote, "(I don't like gmail.)

Hopefully this is plain text. It said plain text. But I haven't
discovered a verification.

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Old 06-21-2011, 06:51 PM
he who
 
Default After fresh install to stable now KMail crashes

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:51 PM, <briand@aracnet.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:12:32 -0700
> he who <hewho7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> (I don't like gmail.)
>>
>
> Try claws mail.
>
>

Claws is fabulous and developing expertly. I like using claws just to use claws.

But I can't download right now until I either fix my mini pci wireless
on my main machine or get main email directory moved to this one.

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Old 06-21-2011, 07:35 PM
lee
 
Default After fresh install to stable now KMail crashes

he who <hewho7@gmail.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:46 AM, lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
>> Please do not send HTML messages, especially not to mailing lists.
>
> Why I wrote, "(I don't like gmail.)

Because HTML messages are troublesome, wasteful, unneeded, unwanted and
obsolete, and sending them is considered bad behaviour.

What does sending HTML messages have to do with not liking gmail? And
why do you use gmail when you don´t like it?

> Hopefully this is plain text. It said plain text. But I haven't
> discovered a verification.

Looks like it is, thanks


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