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Old 04-02-2011, 03:23 AM
Scott Ferguson
 
Default Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

On 02/04/11 13:50, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 07:12, green <greenfreedom10@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Aaron Toponce wrote at 2011-04-01 08:11 -0500:
>>> For international mailing lists, if you stick with ISO 8601, there should
>>> be no ambiguity in the date:
>>>
>>> 2011-04-01 or 20110401 is defined as April 1, 2011, or truncated as
>>> 11-04-01 or 110401.
>>>
>>> Standards. Who would have thought?
>>
>> Precisely. I'm in the US, but I always write dates like that.
>
> AOL
>
>
> Cheers,
> Kelly Clowers
>
>

Why not use the Debian standard??
Reasoning - it's already been extensively debated *and* voted on, it's a
system already in place, it's the "Debian" way.

(Is there more than one (Debian standard)?)

>From :-
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-dpkgchangelog

The date has the following format[17] (compatible and with the same
semantics of RFC 2822 and RFC 5322):

day-of-week, dd month yyyy hh:mm:ss +zzzz

where:

day-of week is one of: Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun

dd is a one- or two-digit day of the month (01-31)

month is one of: Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct,
Nov, Dec

yyyy is the four-digit year (e.g. 2010)

hh is the two-digit hour (00-23)

mm is the two-digit minutes (00-59)

ss is the two-digit seconds (00-60)

+zzzz or -zzzz is the the time zone offset from Coordinated
Universal Time (UTC). "+" indicates that the time is ahead of (i.e.,
east of) UTC and "-" indicates that the time is behind (i.e., west of)
UTC. The first two digits indicate the hour difference from UTC and the
last two digits indicate the number of additional minutes difference
from UTC. The last two digits must be in the range 00-59.


Cheers



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Old 04-02-2011, 03:57 AM
Kelly Clowers
 
Default Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 20:23, Scott Ferguson
<prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 02/04/11 13:50, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 07:12, green <greenfreedom10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Aaron Toponce wrote at 2011-04-01 08:11 -0500:
>>>> For international mailing lists, if you stick with ISO 8601, there should
>>>> be no ambiguity in the date:
>>>>
>>>> * * 2011-04-01 or 20110401 is defined as April 1, 2011, or truncated as
>>>> * * 11-04-01 or 110401.
>>>>
>>>> Standards. Who would have thought?
>>>
>>> Precisely. *I'm in the US, but I always write dates like that.
>>
>> AOL
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kelly Clowers
>>
>>
>
> Why not use the Debian standard??
>day-of-week, dd month yyyy hh:mm:ss +zzzz

Too verbose, not sortable

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Old 04-02-2011, 04:13 AM
Nuno Magalh„es
 
Default Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 04:57, Kelly Clowers <kelly.clowers@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why not use the Debian standard??
>>day-of-week, dd month yyyy hh:mm:ss +zzzz

ISO format available.

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Old 04-02-2011, 04:17 AM
Scott Ferguson
 
Default Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

On 02/04/11 14:57, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 20:23, Scott Ferguson
> <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 02/04/11 13:50, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 07:12, green <greenfreedom10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Aaron Toponce wrote at 2011-04-01 08:11 -0500:
>>>>> For international mailing lists, if you stick with ISO 8601, there should
>>>>> be no ambiguity in the date:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011-04-01 or 20110401 is defined as April 1, 2011, or truncated as
>>>>> 11-04-01 or 110401.
>>>>>
>>>>> Standards. Who would have thought?
>>>>
>>>> Precisely. I'm in the US, but I always write dates like that.
>>>
>>> AOL
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kelly Clowers
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Why not use the Debian standard??
>> day-of-week, dd month yyyy hh:mm:ss +zzzz
>
> Too verbose, not sortable
>
> Cheers,
> Kelly Clowers
>
>


So...
the RFC standards for internet communication is not good enough?
or the Debian Policy standard
or the standard of *this* mailing list:-
(eg. as used in http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/04/msg00141.html)

And *you* can't sort the in-place standards?

Let me guess - do you also use the imperial measurement system?
Did someone mention Cultural Imperialism earlier?
;-p

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Old 04-02-2011, 04:40 AM
Ron Johnson
 
Default Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

On 04/01/2011 11:17 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 02/04/11 14:57, Kelly Clowers wrote:

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 20:23, Scott Ferguson

[snip]


Why not use the Debian standard??
day-of-week, dd month yyyy hh:mm:ss +zzzz


Too verbose, not sortable

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers





So...
the RFC standards for internet communication is not good enough?
or the Debian Policy standard
or the standard of *this* mailing list:-
(eg. as used in http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/04/msg00141.html)

And *you* can't sort the in-place standards?

Let me guess - do you also use the imperial measurement system?
Did someone mention Cultural Imperialism earlier?
;-p


I've always thought that Unix Time is *incredibly stupid* (who the heck
says "Fri Apr 1 23:27:41 CDT 2011"?) and *monumentally shortsighted*
(did nothing happen before 01-Jan-1970?).


OpenVMS does it one of the two Right Ways of displaying time
(01-Apr-2011 23:27:41) and has an epoch date of 17-NOV-1858 00:00:00.00
(modified Julian date adopted by the Smithsonian Astrophysical
Observatory for satellite tracking) and keeps time in a signed 64 bit
integer using 100ns resolution).


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Old 04-02-2011, 05:18 AM
Scott Ferguson
 
Default Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)

On 02/04/11 15:40, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/01/2011 11:17 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 02/04/11 14:57, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 20:23, Scott Ferguson
> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> Why not use the Debian standard??
>>>> day-of-week, dd month yyyy hh:mm:ss +zzzz
>>>
>>> Too verbose, not sortable
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kelly Clowers
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> So...
>> the RFC standards for internet communication is not good enough?
>> or the Debian Policy standard
>> or the standard of *this* mailing list:-
>> (eg. as used in
>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/04/msg00141.html)
>>
>> And *you* can't sort the in-place standards?
>>
>> Let me guess - do you also use the imperial measurement system?
>> Did someone mention Cultural Imperialism earlier?
>> ;-p
>
> I've always thought that Unix Time is *incredibly stupid* (who the heck
> says "Fri Apr 1 23:27:41 CDT 2011"?) and *monumentally shortsighted*
> (did nothing happen before 01-Jan-1970?).


Um, apropos of what (Unix time)??

>
> OpenVMS does it one of the two Right Ways

There's two "right" ways?? :-)

> of displaying time
> (01-Apr-2011 23:27:41)

Which *is* RFC 2822....

> and has an epoch date of 17-NOV-1858 00:00:00.00
> (modified Julian date adopted by the Smithsonian Astrophysical
> Observatory for satellite tracking) and keeps time in a signed 64 bit
> integer using 100ns resolution).
>

Interesting...

Cheers


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