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Old 03-31-2011, 12:35 PM
Klistvud
 
Default About to order motherboard Asus M4A78LT-M - any known issues?

Howdie, fellow Debianites!

I'm about to order a system with Asus M4A78LT-M
(AM3/PCIE/S/R/V1G/H5200, with an AMD Phenom II X4 840, 3,20GHz) and was
wondering whether any list member has any experience with this mobo in
Debian Squeeze.


In particular:

1. I'm planning to run virtualized Windows XP on it and have seen
reports such as http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/5639 about VirtualBox
having problems with AMD SVM. Anybody care to confirm/rebut that? Does
hardware virtualization work?


2. What's the support for the integrated ATI Radeon 3000 graphics in
the stock Squeeze kernel? Can the free driver be used? Is 3D working?


Will be immensely grateful for any first-hand experience. This is
important to me -- *cash* is involved ;P


TIA

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Old 03-31-2011, 04:08 PM
shawn wilson
 
Default About to order motherboard Asus M4A78LT-M - any known issues?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Klistvud <quotations@aliceadsl.fr> wrote:
> Howdie, fellow Debianites!
>
> I'm about to order a system with Asus M4A78LT-M (AM3/PCIE/S/R/V1G/H5200,
> with an AMD Phenom II X4 840, 3,20GHz) and was wondering whether any list
> member has any experience with this mobo in Debian Squeeze.
>
> In particular:
>
> 1. I'm planning to run virtualized Windows XP on it and have seen reports
> such as http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/5639 about VirtualBox having
> problems with AMD SVM. Anybody care to confirm/rebut that? Does hardware
> virtualization work?

hardware virtualization is mainly dependent on the processor - if the
processor supports vt (or whatever), it'll work if not it won't.

>
> 2. What's the support for the integrated ATI Radeon 3000 graphics in the
> stock Squeeze kernel? Can the free driver be used? Is 3D working?
>

for most advanced video card features on ati cards (ie, 3d) you'll
need to use their driver. their driver is 'free' but not 'open
source'. note, other than vmware fusion (mac), i don't think anyone
else does graphics acceleration within the virtual.


so, check the processor to make sure you've got one that supports hw
virtualization and that's about it. everything should 'just work' out
of the box except 3d which you'll probably need to install the ati
driver for (probably even get that out of the non-free repo now days).


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Old 03-31-2011, 04:21 PM
Klistvud
 
Default About to order motherboard Asus M4A78LT-M - any known issues?

Dne, 31. 03. 2011 18:08:27 je shawn wilson napisal(a):
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Klistvud <quotations@aliceadsl.fr>
wrote:

> Howdie, fellow Debianites!
>
> I'm about to order a system with Asus M4A78LT-M
(AM3/PCIE/S/R/V1G/H5200,
> with an AMD Phenom II X4 840, 3,20GHz) and was wondering whether
any list

> member has any experience with this mobo in Debian Squeeze.
>
> In particular:
>
> 1. I'm planning to run virtualized Windows XP on it and have seen
reports
> such as http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/5639 about VirtualBox
having
> problems with AMD SVM. Anybody care to confirm/rebut that? Does
hardware

> virtualization work?

hardware virtualization is mainly dependent on the processor - if the
processor supports vt (or whatever), it'll work if not it won't.



Yes, but as the saying goes, "some vendors disable hardware
virtualization in the BIOS." So we're back to square one... ;D



>
> 2. What's the support for the integrated ATI Radeon 3000 graphics
in the

> stock Squeeze kernel? Can the free driver be used? Is 3D working?
>

for most advanced video card features on ati cards (ie, 3d) you'll
need to use their driver. their driver is 'free' but not 'open
source'. note, other than vmware fusion (mac), i don't think anyone
else does graphics acceleration within the virtual.


I didn't express myself clearly enough. I won't be doing 3D in the
virtual. I will be running 3D in plain (bare-metal) Squeeze, for some
OpenGL games and stuff.


But I will also run a virtual Windows XP machine in my plain Squeeze
from time to time (probably qemu/kvm since it's built into the kernel
and I know it best).


So the question is, how does ATI 3000 3D wotk in Squeeze pure and
simple.




so, check the processor to make sure you've got one that supports hw
virtualization and that's about it. everything should 'just work' out
of the box except 3d which you'll probably need to install the ati
driver for (probably even get that out of the non-free repo now days).



Thanx for your input!


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Old 03-31-2011, 05:26 PM
Brad Rogers
 
Default About to order motherboard Asus M4A78LT-M - any known issues?

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:35:32 +0200
Klistvud <quotations@aliceadsl.fr> wrote:

Hello Klistvud,

> I'm about to order a system with Asus M4A78LT-M

I don't know how long that mobo has been around but if it's a new model
there /might/ be issues with some of the hardware not being recognised.

For example, when I bought my current machine, the on board network
adaptor was not recognised, nor was the graphics card's chip set. It was
several months before I could get the machine connected to the internet
using the mobo network device. It was nearly a year before the GFX card
chip set was recognised correctly.

Neither problem was a show stopper for me, but it might be a big deal to
some people.

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Old 03-31-2011, 05:46 PM
shawn wilson
 
Default About to order motherboard Asus M4A78LT-M - any known issues?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:35:32 +0200
> Klistvud <quotations@aliceadsl.fr> wrote:
>
> Hello Klistvud,
>
>> I'm about to order a system with Asus M4A78LT-M
>
> I don't know how long that mobo has been around but if it's a new model
> there /might/ be issues with some of the hardware not being recognised.

heh, yeah, a quick google for ya:
http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/M4A78LT-M/

.... you might want to rethink that board


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Old 03-31-2011, 05:55 PM
Ron Johnson
 
Default About to order motherboard Asus M4A78LT-M - any known issues?

On 03/31/2011 12:46 PM, shawn wilson wrote:

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Brad Rogers<brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:35:32 +0200
Klistvud<quotations@aliceadsl.fr> wrote:

Hello Klistvud,


I'm about to order a system with Asus M4A78LT-M


I don't know how long that mobo has been around but if it's a new model
there /might/ be issues with some of the hardware not being recognised.


heh, yeah, a quick google for ya:
http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/M4A78LT-M/

.... you might want to rethink that board



Or rethink using Squeeze.

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Old 03-31-2011, 06:16 PM
Brad Rogers
 
Default About to order motherboard Asus M4A78LT-M - any known issues?

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:46:10 -0400
shawn wilson <ag4ve.us@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello shawn,

> heh, yeah, a quick google for ya:
> http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/M4A78LT-M/
>
> .... you might want to rethink that board

I didn't know about that site. Looks useful. OTOH, it lists my board
like this;

http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/M3N78+PRO

A bit lacking in info, as I know that board works.

So, it's not exactly up to date with the info it has. I'm using
Testing, and have been ever since I came to Debian some five years ago.

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Old 03-31-2011, 06:50 PM
Klistvud
 
Default About to order motherboard Asus M4A78LT-M - any known issues?

Dne, 31. 03. 2011 19:26:43 je Brad Rogers napisal(a):

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:35:32 +0200
Klistvud <quotations@aliceadsl.fr> wrote:

Hello Klistvud,

> I'm about to order a system with Asus M4A78LT-M

I don't know how long that mobo has been around but if it's a new
model
there /might/ be issues with some of the hardware not being
recognised.


Thanx for your input. It's not *that* new, but then again, neither is
the Squeeze kernel ... ;P



For example, when I bought my current machine, the on board network
adaptor was not recognised, nor was the graphics card's chip set. It
was
several months before I could get the machine connected to the
internet
using the mobo network device. It was nearly a year before the GFX
card

chip set was recognised correctly.

Neither problem was a show stopper for me, but it might be a big deal
to

some people.


Yep, the network card(s) issue does seem to pop up from time to time,
even on this very list. Oh well, I'll do without the integrated network
card for a while if that should be the case. It's the video subsystem
and the proprietary drivers that really worry me... ;D


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Old 03-31-2011, 06:54 PM
Klistvud
 
Default About to order motherboard Asus M4A78LT-M - any known issues?

Dne, 31. 03. 2011 19:46:10 je shawn wilson napisal(a):
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:35:32 +0200
> Klistvud <quotations@aliceadsl.fr> wrote:
>
> Hello Klistvud,
>
>> I'm about to order a system with Asus M4A78LT-M
>
> I don't know how long that mobo has been around but if it's a new
model
> there /might/ be issues with some of the hardware not being
recognised.


heh, yeah, a quick google for ya:
http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/M4A78LT-M/

.... you might want to rethink that board



Geez, I just might

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Old 03-31-2011, 06:58 PM
Klistvud
 
Default About to order motherboard Asus M4A78LT-M - any known issues?

Dne, 31. 03. 2011 19:55:09 je Ron Johnson napisal(a):

On 03/31/2011 12:46 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Brad Rogers<brad@fineby.me.uk>
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:35:32 +0200
Klistvud<quotations@aliceadsl.fr> wrote:

Hello Klistvud,


I'm about to order a system with Asus M4A78LT-M


I don't know how long that mobo has been around but if it's a new
model
there /might/ be issues with some of the hardware not being
recognised.


heh, yeah, a quick google for ya:
http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/M4A78LT-M/

.... you might want to rethink that board



Or rethink using Squeeze.



That's not to be ruled out entirely. Anyway, Wheezy is going stable any
day now, right? :^


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