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Old 03-10-2011, 03:56 PM
chris
 
Default squeeze on 2TB drive

Hello,

I am trying to setup squeeze on a machine with a WD2001FAS (2TB). The
first problem I am having is that when I initialize the drive it
doesn't prompt me for MBR/GPT so I assume its doing GPT? Secondly,
when I create my first partition it is 8GB, ext4, I cannot make it
bootable. I continue the install and grub fails to install on sda. I
tried playing with the SATA mode in the bios ide/sata/ahci, no luck.

Is this something thats happening due the size? Is this one of those
drives with a weird sector size and maybe thats doing it? Why does
grub fail? Can I somehow get the installer do install grub1 instead?

Any insight would be greatly appreaciated

chris


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Old 03-10-2011, 04:53 PM
Hugo Vanwoerkom
 
Default squeeze on 2TB drive

chris wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to setup squeeze on a machine with a WD2001FAS (2TB). The
first problem I am having is that when I initialize the drive it
doesn't prompt me for MBR/GPT so I assume its doing GPT? Secondly,
when I create my first partition it is 8GB, ext4, I cannot make it
bootable. I continue the install and grub fails to install on sda. I
tried playing with the SATA mode in the bios ide/sata/ahci, no luck.

Is this something thats happening due the size? Is this one of those
drives with a weird sector size and maybe thats doing it? Why does
grub fail? Can I somehow get the installer do install grub1 instead?

Any insight would be greatly appreaciated



Does this help at all?

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg00880.html

Hugo


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Old 03-10-2011, 05:02 PM
chris
 
Default squeeze on 2TB drive

I dont think it is one of those types of drives afaik.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> wrote:
> chris wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to setup squeeze on a machine with a WD2001FAS (2TB). The
>> first problem I am having is that when I initialize the drive it
>> doesn't prompt me for MBR/GPT so I assume its doing GPT? Secondly,
>> when I create my first partition it is 8GB, ext4, I cannot make it
>> bootable. I continue the install and grub fails to install on sda. I
>> tried playing with the SATA mode in the bios ide/sata/ahci, no luck.
>>
>> Is this something thats happening due the size? Is this one of those
>> drives with a weird sector size and maybe thats doing it? Why does
>> grub fail? Can I somehow get the installer do install grub1 instead?
>>
>> Any insight would be greatly appreaciated
>>
>
> Does this help at all?
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg00880.html
>
> Hugo
>
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:08 PM
Klistvud
 
Default squeeze on 2TB drive

Dne, 10. 03. 2011 17:56:23 je chris napisal(a):

Hello,

I am trying to setup squeeze on a machine with a WD2001FAS (2TB). The
first problem I am having is that when I initialize the drive it
doesn't prompt me for MBR/GPT so I assume its doing GPT? Secondly,
when I create my first partition it is 8GB, ext4, I cannot make it
bootable. I continue the install and grub fails to install on sda. I
tried playing with the SATA mode in the bios ide/sata/ahci, no luck.

Is this something thats happening due the size? Is this one of those
drives with a weird sector size and maybe thats doing it? Why does
grub fail? Can I somehow get the installer do install grub1 instead?

Any insight would be greatly appreaciated

chris


I'd reccommend partitioning (setting up) the drive in advance; if you
lack a working GNU/Linux system, a live CD with gparted (such as an
Ubuntu Live) will do. I prefer GPT but that's just a personal choice
really; the same goes for grub (I prefer Grub 2 because it is more
capable and very actively developed). As for special requirements (and
a hands-on experience) see the website in my signature. There's a
heading about WD20EARS specifically you may want to read. I am not sure
if your drive is one of the "advanced format" drives though -- please
do consult Google and the WD site for that, before doing anything with
the drive.


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Old 03-10-2011, 05:57 PM
chris
 
Default squeeze on 2TB drive

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Klistvud <quotations@aliceadsl.fr> wrote:
> Dne, 10. 03. 2011 17:56:23 je chris napisal(a):
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to setup squeeze on a machine with a WD2001FAS (2TB). The
>> first problem I am having is that when I initialize the drive it
>> doesn't prompt me for MBR/GPT so I assume its doing GPT? Secondly,
>> when I create my first partition it is 8GB, ext4, I cannot make it
>> bootable. I continue the install and grub fails to install on sda. I
>> tried playing with the SATA mode in the bios ide/sata/ahci, no luck.
>>
>> Is this something thats happening due the size? Is this one of those
>> drives with a weird sector size and maybe thats doing it? Why does
>> grub fail? Can I somehow get the installer do install grub1 instead?
>>
>> Any insight would be greatly appreaciated
>>
>> chris
>
> I'd reccommend partitioning (setting up) the drive in advance; if you lack a
> working GNU/Linux system, a live CD with gparted (such as an Ubuntu Live)
> will do. I prefer GPT but that's just a personal choice really; the same
> goes for grub (I prefer Grub 2 because it is more capable and very actively
> developed). As for special requirements (and a hands-on experience) see the
> website in my signature. There's a heading about WD20EARS specifically you
> may want to read. I am not sure if your drive is one of the "advanced
> format" drives though -- please do consult Google and the WD site for that,
> before doing anything with the drive.
>
> --
> Cheerio,
>
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> Certifiable Loonix User #481801 * * *Please reply to the list, not to me.
>
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I found this:

http://www.wdc.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=733&language=1

As far as any information I can find, its not a advanced format drive
so I don't think the WD20EARS stuff applies.
As for the suggestion to format the drive ahead of time this doesnt
help as grub still fails to install, so something is obviously still
wrong.

Any other ideas?

chris


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Old 03-10-2011, 06:15 PM
chris
 
Default squeeze on 2TB drive

Found some info that I think is relevant:

https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=149305
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-315827.html

googling for grub and 2tb brings up alot of results and for the most
part it seems like its just a nightmare

i think 2tb drives are pretty mainstream now, im surprised this issue
is happening

chris

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:57 PM, chris <tknchris@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Klistvud <quotations@aliceadsl.fr> wrote:
>> Dne, 10. 03. 2011 17:56:23 je chris napisal(a):
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am trying to setup squeeze on a machine with a WD2001FAS (2TB). The
>>> first problem I am having is that when I initialize the drive it
>>> doesn't prompt me for MBR/GPT so I assume its doing GPT? Secondly,
>>> when I create my first partition it is 8GB, ext4, I cannot make it
>>> bootable. I continue the install and grub fails to install on sda. I
>>> tried playing with the SATA mode in the bios ide/sata/ahci, no luck.
>>>
>>> Is this something thats happening due the size? Is this one of those
>>> drives with a weird sector size and maybe thats doing it? Why does
>>> grub fail? Can I somehow get the installer do install grub1 instead?
>>>
>>> Any insight would be greatly appreaciated
>>>
>>> chris
>>
>> I'd reccommend partitioning (setting up) the drive in advance; if you lack a
>> working GNU/Linux system, a live CD with gparted (such as an Ubuntu Live)
>> will do. I prefer GPT but that's just a personal choice really; the same
>> goes for grub (I prefer Grub 2 because it is more capable and very actively
>> developed). As for special requirements (and a hands-on experience) see the
>> website in my signature. There's a heading about WD20EARS specifically you
>> may want to read. I am not sure if your drive is one of the "advanced
>> format" drives though -- please do consult Google and the WD site for that,
>> before doing anything with the drive.
>>
>> --
>> Cheerio,
>>
>> Klistvud * * * * * * * * * * * * * * http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com
>> Certifiable Loonix User #481801 * * *Please reply to the list, not to me.
>>
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>
> I found this:
>
> http://www.wdc.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=733&language=1
>
> As far as any information I can find, its not a advanced format drive
> so I don't think the WD20EARS stuff applies.
> As for the suggestion to format the drive ahead of time this doesnt
> help as grub still fails to install, so something is obviously still
> wrong.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> chris
>


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Old 03-10-2011, 06:21 PM
David Christensen
 
Default squeeze on 2TB drive

On 03/10/2011 10:57 AM, chris wrote:

As for the suggestion to format the drive ahead of time this doesnt
help as grub still fails to install, so something is obviously still
wrong.


I use debian-6.0.0-i386-DVD-1 via Jigdo:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/jigdo-dvd/

At the very first screen ("Installer boot menu"), choose "Advanced
options" then "Rescue mode". You will end up in a root shell and can
run fdisk.




Any other ideas?


Life is easier where your O/S and apps are on one drive ("system drive")
and your data is on another. I'd use that 2 TB for data and get another
drive for the system (preferably solid state). My primary desktop has a
root partition of 13.2 GB (4.6 GB used) and a data partition of 769 GB
(LVM JBOD of one 300 GB drive plus two 250 GB drives).



HTH,

David


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Old 03-10-2011, 06:25 PM
Camaleón
 
Default squeeze on 2TB drive

On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:56:23 -0500, chris wrote:

> I am trying to setup squeeze on a machine with a WD2001FAS (2TB). The
> first problem I am having is that when I initialize the drive it doesn't
> prompt me for MBR/GPT so I assume its doing GPT?

Most modern linux systems automatically manage that, no need to tweak or
setup nothing. An old BIOS is the one that can make noise here.

> Secondly, when I create my first partition it is 8GB, ext4, I cannot
> make it bootable. I continue the install and grub fails to install on
> sda. I tried playing with the SATA mode in the bios ide/sata/ahci, no
> luck.
>
> Is this something thats happening due the size? Is this one of those
> drives with a weird sector size and maybe thats doing it? Why does grub
> fail? Can I somehow get the installer do install grub1 instead?

I've always experienced problems for installing GRUB in the first
attempt, I mean, on standard disks. When it fails, I select "do not
install a bootloader" and get it from another source (i.e.,
SuperGrubDisk).

Expert installer should ask for the GRUB version to install.

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