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Albretch Mueller 01-02-2011 02:27 PM

build your own ... (primarily Linux/Debian multiboot box)
 
~
this is not a hardware community but you will see why I ask this q here:
~
At sites like these:
~
http://www.tomshardware.com/theme-build-your-own,156.html
~
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2366841,00.asp
~
you find pretty good outlines/step-by-step guides on how to build a
PC on your own. The thing is that these guidelines mostly "follow the
money" instead of doing a use case analysis of the hardware (e.g.
optimal balance of quantity and type/quality of memory + SSD and
harddrives (+ mainboard/processor)) that would let you grow as you go
~
Even though I almost exclusively work on Linux/Debian, I need to
build a multiboot PC and one of the critical points to me is for the
box to easily go into hibernation (and back ;-)) in no time and with
no problem whatsoever. I know the combination of right hard- and
software is very important for that to happen safely
~
Any other (better) "build-your-own" places out there considering such
aspects, or any suggestions in general?
~
Thanks
lbrtchx


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Camaleón 01-02-2011 03:07 PM

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On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:27:12 +0000, Albretch Mueller wrote:

(...)

> Even though I almost exclusively work on Linux/Debian, I need to
> build a multiboot PC and one of the critical points to me is for the box
> to easily go into hibernation (and back ;-)) in no time and with no
> problem whatsoever. I know the combination of right hard- and software
> is very important for that to happen safely

Hibernation is not "bullet-proof" because hardware manufacturers do not
certify their drivers for linux (no "Energy Star compliance" here). It
can work for sometime and then break (due to a kernel or VGA/wifi driver
upgrade) so my advice is that you select the components that best suit
your needs and budget, ensure all the components are more or less linux-
friendly and the try to solve the problems you encounter in the way.

Of course, the more open drivers you use, the better to get this working
(proprietary VGA or wifi drivers can be hard to debug and there are many
chances developers reject a bug when using these closed drivers).

Greetings,

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01-02-2011 03:39 PM

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On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:27:12 +0000
Albretch Mueller <lbrtchx@gmail.com> wrote:

> ~
> this is not a hardware community but you will see why I ask this q
> here: ~
> At sites like these:
> ~
> http://www.tomshardware.com/theme-build-your-own,156.html
> ~
> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2366841,00.asp
> ~
> you find pretty good outlines/step-by-step guides on how to build a
> PC on your own. The thing is that these guidelines mostly "follow the
> money" instead of doing a use case analysis of the hardware (e.g.
> optimal balance of quantity and type/quality of memory + SSD and
> harddrives (+ mainboard/processor)) that would let you grow as you go
> ~
> Even though I almost exclusively work on Linux/Debian, I need to
> build a multiboot PC and one of the critical points to me is for the
> box to easily go into hibernation (and back ;-)) in no time and with
> no problem whatsoever. I know the combination of right hard- and
> software is very important for that to happen safely
> ~

sleeping properly is one of the things I have a great deal of trouble
with on Linux systems. Usually it's the video card, so I would pay
special attention to that.

Having said that, older hardware tends to work better in this regard,
and as Camaleon says, try to use things which have free software
drivers.

Brian


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Hugo Vanwoerkom 01-04-2011 04:19 PM

build your own ... (primarily Linux/Debian multiboot box)
 
Albretch Mueller wrote:

~
this is not a hardware community but you will see why I ask this q here:
~
At sites like these:
~
http://www.tomshardware.com/theme-build-your-own,156.html
~
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2366841,00.asp
~
you find pretty good outlines/step-by-step guides on how to build a
PC on your own. The thing is that these guidelines mostly "follow the
money" instead of doing a use case analysis of the hardware (e.g.
optimal balance of quantity and type/quality of memory + SSD and
harddrives (+ mainboard/processor)) that would let you grow as you go
~
Even though I almost exclusively work on Linux/Debian, I need to
build a multiboot PC and one of the critical points to me is for the
box to easily go into hibernation (and back ;-)) in no time and with
no problem whatsoever. I know the combination of right hard- and
software is very important for that to happen safely
~


In the boxes I have built I have *never* been able to predict
hibernation success: it seems to me that is too dependent on what
hardware combination you have. Especially vulnerable seems to me to be
USB devices: they always fail to come backup in my case YMMV


Hugo


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