On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 07:56:07PM +0200, lee wrote:
> Hi,
>
> unfortunately, the configuration of mouse and keyboard for X11 has
> changed, so they don´t work correctly anymore after a fresh
> install.
>
> Now I need keyboard and mouse to work as they did before:
>
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Mouse0"
> Driver "mouse"
> Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
> Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> Option "11"
> Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
> Option "EmulateWheel" "True"
> Option "EmulateWheelButton" "8"
> Option "YAxisMapping" "4 5"
> Option "EmulateWheelClickToo" "0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Keyboard0"
> Driver "kbd"
> Option "XKBOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
> Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
> Option "XkbLayout" "de"
> EndSection
>
> How do I tell the x-server that I have a keyboard with 102 keys? How
> do I make it so that the trackball emulates a mouse wheel again?
How do I make it so that it´s set up automatically?
The problem with the keyboard remains ...
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10-10-2010, 10:37 PM
setting up mouse and keyboard for X11
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:31:34 +0200
lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 07:56:07PM +0200, lee wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > unfortunately, the configuration of mouse and keyboard for X11 has
> > changed, so they don´t work correctly anymore after a fresh
> > install.
> >
> > Now I need keyboard and mouse to work as they did before:
> >
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier "Mouse0"
> > Driver "mouse"
> > Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
> > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> > Option "11"
> > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
> > Option "EmulateWheel" "True"
> > Option "EmulateWheelButton" "8"
> > Option "YAxisMapping" "4 5"
> > Option "EmulateWheelClickToo" "0"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier "Keyboard0"
> > Driver "kbd"
> > Option "XKBOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
> > Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
> > Option "XkbLayout" "de"
> > EndSection
> >
> > How do I tell the x-server that I have a keyboard with 102 keys? How
> > do I make it so that the trackball emulates a mouse wheel again?
>
> Ok, I was able to enable the wheel emulation with
>
>
> xinput -set-prop "PS2++ Logitech TrackMan" "Evdev Wheel Emulation
> Button" 8
>
>
> How do I make it so that it´s set up automatically?
>
> The problem with the keyboard remains ...
>
>
that's strange - your xconfig file looks like it's set-up correctly and
that you wouldn't need the xinput.
did you restart the x-server ?
I would do a little more research on the x-config file. that's really
where you want the set-up to live.
I used commands in my .xsesssion file to do that sort of thing, but I'm
not running an "environment", so if you are running gnome or kde
desktop, I don't know what you would need to do.
It really should be part of the xconfig file...
Brian
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10-11-2010, 08:56 AM
lee
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On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 03:37:13PM -0700, briand@aracnet.com wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:31:34 +0200
> lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 07:56:07PM +0200, lee wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > unfortunately, the configuration of mouse and keyboard for X11 has
> > > changed, so they don´t work correctly anymore after a fresh
> > > install.
> > >
> > > Now I need keyboard and mouse to work as they did before:
> > >
> > >
> > > Section "InputDevice"
> > > Identifier "Mouse0"
> > > Driver "mouse"
> > > Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
> > > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> > > Option "11"
> > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
> > > Option "EmulateWheel" "True"
> > > Option "EmulateWheelButton" "8"
> > > Option "YAxisMapping" "4 5"
> > > Option "EmulateWheelClickToo" "0"
> > > EndSection
> > >
> > > Section "InputDevice"
> > > Identifier "Keyboard0"
> > > Driver "kbd"
> > > Option "XKBOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
> > > Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
> > > Option "XkbLayout" "de"
> > > EndSection
> > >
> > > How do I tell the x-server that I have a keyboard with 102 keys? How
> > > do I make it so that the trackball emulates a mouse wheel again?
> >
> > Ok, I was able to enable the wheel emulation with
> >
> >
> > xinput -set-prop "PS2++ Logitech TrackMan" "Evdev Wheel Emulation
> > Button" 8
> >
> >
> > How do I make it so that it´s set up automatically?
> >
> > The problem with the keyboard remains ...
> >
> >
>
> that's strange - your xconfig file looks like it's set-up correctly and
> that you wouldn't need the xinput.
It is set up correctly, but the settings are ignored, see man
xorg.conf: "If AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using the kbd, mouse or
vmmouse driver are ignored."
When I turn AllowEmptyInput off, all input devices are ignored (((
> It really should be part of the xconfig file...
Indeed, it should, but they changed it.
Perhaps it works when I disable hald? What´s hald good for, anyway? It
only makes things unconfigurable, but does it have any advantages? Is
it some sort of virus that has been ported from windoze?
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10-11-2010, 01:09 PM
Kelly Clowers
setting up mouse and keyboard for X11
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 01:56, lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 03:37:13PM -0700, briand@aracnet.com wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:31:34 +0200
>> lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Â* xinput -set-prop "PS2++ Logitech TrackMan" "Evdev Wheel Emulation
>> > Button" 8
>> >
>> >
>> > How do I make it so that it's set up automatically?
Mouse stuff still goes in xorg.conf AFAIK
You probably want:
driver "evdev"
and delete the "protocol" line altogether.
>> that's strange - your xconfig file looks like it's set-up correctly and
>> that you wouldn't need the xinput.
>
> It is set up correctly, but the settings are ignored, see man
> xorg.conf: "If AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using the kbd, mouse or
> vmmouse driver are ignored."
>
> When I turn AllowEmptyInput off, all input devices are ignored (((
>
>> It really should be part of the xconfig file...
>
> Indeed, it should, but they changed it.
for good reason: now keyboard config is universal between the console
and X
> Perhaps it works when I disable hald? Whatæ„€ hald good for, anyway? It
> only makes things unconfigurable, but does it have any advantages? Is
> it some sort of virus that has been ported from windoze?
Hal was fundamentally a good idea, but had some implementation
problems that cause them to eventually replace it with direct libudev
access and upower and udisks (formerly devicekit-*). Squeeze's X
uses udev instead of HAL
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10-11-2010, 01:48 PM
lee
setting up mouse and keyboard for X11
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:56:35AM +0200, lee wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 03:37:13PM -0700, briand@aracnet.com wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:31:34 +0200
> > lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 07:56:07PM +0200, lee wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > unfortunately, the configuration of mouse and keyboard for X11 has
> > > > changed, so they don´t work correctly anymore after a fresh
> > > > install.
> > > >
> > > > Now I need keyboard and mouse to work as they did before:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Section "InputDevice"
> > > > Identifier "Mouse0"
> > > > Driver "mouse"
> > > > Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
> > > > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> > > > Option "11"
> > > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
> > > > Option "EmulateWheel" "True"
> > > > Option "EmulateWheelButton" "8"
> > > > Option "YAxisMapping" "4 5"
> > > > Option "EmulateWheelClickToo" "0"
> > > > EndSection
> > > >
> > > > Section "InputDevice"
> > > > Identifier "Keyboard0"
> > > > Driver "kbd"
> > > > Option "XKBOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
> > > > Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
> > > > Option "XkbLayout" "de"
> > > > EndSection
> > > >
> > > > How do I tell the x-server that I have a keyboard with 102 keys? How
> > > > do I make it so that the trackball emulates a mouse wheel again?
> > >
> > > Ok, I was able to enable the wheel emulation with
> > >
> > >
> > > xinput -set-prop "PS2++ Logitech TrackMan" "Evdev Wheel Emulation
> > > Button" 8
> > >
> > >
> > > How do I make it so that it´s set up automatically?
> > >
> > > The problem with the keyboard remains ...
> > >
> > >
> >
After rebooting, the xserver finally thinks it´s got a keyboard with
102 keys. Using KDE keyboard layouts, I was able to create a new
.Xmodmap with xmodmap -pke and to edit the new map to get the keyboard
layout I want. Remember to disable KDE keyboard layouts before loading
the .Xmodmap.
Now how about the button mapping of the mouse? There must be some
place to configure that ...
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10-11-2010, 03:19 PM
lee
setting up mouse and keyboard for X11
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 06:09:20AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 01:56, lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 03:37:13PM -0700, briand@aracnet.com wrote:
> >> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:31:34 +0200
> >> lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Â* xinput -set-prop "PS2++ Logitech TrackMan" "Evdev Wheel Emulation
> >> > Button" 8
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > How do I make it so that it's set up automatically?
>
> Mouse stuff still goes in xorg.conf AFAIK
> You probably want:
> driver "evdev"
> and delete the "protocol" line altogether.
>
> You might try:
> device "mouse0"
> as well.
That might work, it´s worth a try, thanks.
> > Indeed, it should, but they changed it.
>
> for good reason: now keyboard config is universal between the console
> and X
The keyboard layout is different on the console because Xmodmap is
ineffective on the console ... And how´s that the other way round:
When you modify the keyboard layout on the console, will you have the
same layount for X11?
> > Perhaps it works when I disable hald? Whatæ„€ hald good for, anyway? It
> > only makes things unconfigurable, but does it have any advantages? Is
> > it some sort of virus that has been ported from windoze?
>
> Hal was fundamentally a good idea, but had some implementation
> problems that cause them to eventually replace it with direct libudev
> access and upower and udisks (formerly devicekit-*). Squeeze's X
> uses udev instead of HAL
Hm, I´m using testing, but hal was installed automatically because
packages depend on it. What´s it for when it´s not being used?
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10-11-2010, 03:24 PM
Jörg-Volker Peetz
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AFAIR, to configure X only with the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file it is
recommended to disable the "ServerFlags" option "AutoAddDevices" (see
man xorg.conf and /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/changelog.gz).
Otherwise the configuration shall be migrated to
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf (see
/usr/share/doc/xser-xorg-core/changelog.Debian.gz).
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10-11-2010, 08:01 PM
lee
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 05:24:13PM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> AFAIR, to configure X only with the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file it is
> recommended to disable the "ServerFlags" option "AutoAddDevices" (see
> man xorg.conf and /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/changelog.gz).
When I do that, neither keyboard nor mouse work and I´m forced to
press the reset button.
> Otherwise the configuration shall be migrated to
> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf (see
> /usr/share/doc/xser-xorg-core/changelog.Debian.gz).
Thanks! The manpage of evdev shows that there´s no option to set the
property "Evdev Wheel Emulation" which is disabled by default. How do
you configure this property?
The manpage also doesn´t say anything about keyboards.
And how does a configuration file under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
fit into the Debian policy that all configuration files reside under
/etc? Shouldn´t there be a file /etc/defaults/mouse (and more files
for more input devices) to set up the mouse just like there´s
/etc/defaults/keyboard? Once all input devices are configured the same
way for X11 and the console, they should work on both ...
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10-12-2010, 10:39 AM
Jörg-Volker Peetz
setting up mouse and keyboard for X11
lee wrote, on 10/11/10 22:01:
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 05:24:13PM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
>> AFAIR, to configure X only with the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file it is
>> recommended to disable the "ServerFlags" option "AutoAddDevices" (see
>> man xorg.conf and /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/changelog.gz).
>
> When I do that, neither keyboard nor mouse work and I´m forced to
> press the reset button.
>
That seems strange. Did you also disable "AllowEmptyInput"?
Can we take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for
that case?
Have you tried to start X without any /usr/X11/xorg.conf file?
>> Otherwise the configuration shall be migrated to
>> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf (see
>> /usr/share/doc/xser-xorg-core/changelog.Debian.gz).
>
> Thanks! The manpage of evdev shows that there´s no option to set the
> property "Evdev Wheel Emulation" which is disabled by default. How do
> you configure this property?
>
I'm still using the xorg.conf configuration and have disabled the device
detection by udev.
What is the output in /var/log/Xorg.0.log when you put these directives
into /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
Did you try to change the mouse configuration in
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf for the "InputClass" "evdev
pointer catchall"? In your Xorg.0.log it says:
> The manpage also doesn´t say anything about keyboards.
>
> And how does a configuration file under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
> fit into the Debian policy that all configuration files reside under
> /etc? Shouldn´t there be a file /etc/defaults/mouse (and more files
> for more input devices) to set up the mouse just like there´s
> /etc/defaults/keyboard? Once all input devices are configured the same
> way for X11 and the console, they should work on both ...
>
You're right. I think, when things get settled there will be a directory
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d containing these config files.
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10-13-2010, 01:25 AM
Kelly Clowers
setting up mouse and keyboard for X11
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 08:19, lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote:
>
> The keyboard layout is different on the console because Xmodmap is
> ineffective on the console
Not at all, it works very well in my experience
>... And how´s that the other way round:
> When you modify the keyboard layout on the console, will you have the
> same layount for X11?
Indeed
>> > Perhaps it works when I disable hald? Whatæ„€ hald good for, anyway? It
>> > only makes things unconfigurable, but does it have any advantages? Is
>> > it some sort of virus that has been ported from windoze?
>>
>> Hal was fundamentally a good idea, but had some implementation
>> problems that cause them to eventually replace it with direct libudev
>> access and upower and udisks (formerly devicekit-*). Squeeze's X
>> uses udev instead of HAL
>
> Hm, I´m using testing, but hal was installed automatically because
> packages depend on it. What´s it for when it´s not being used?
Ugh, KDE in particular (and few others as well) have been slow to change
over to udev/udisks/upower.
Use aptitude in interactive mode to see hal's reverse dependencies, and
which of them are installed. For example, k3b is only reason I currently
have hal installed.
Cheers,
Kelly Clowers
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