Having updated emacs to v23.2+1-4, I lost the "send mail (with sendmail)"
menu, but get a "send mail (with gnus message)" menu instead. As you
might have guessed, it doesn't work for me.
The sendmail has been working fine for me for over 10 years (despite some
people hate it). I don't want to deal another MTA, is it possible to get
that sendmail menu back?
Thanks
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09-29-2010, 06:31 AM
Sven Joachim
emacs: send mail with sendmail
On 2010-09-29 05:04 +0200, T o n g wrote:
> Having updated emacs to v23.2+1-4, I lost the "send mail (with sendmail)"
> menu, but get a "send mail (with gnus message)" menu instead. As you
> might have guessed, it doesn't work for me.
Your MTA seems to be broken. Can you send mail with /usr/bin/mail?
> The sendmail has been working fine for me for over 10 years (despite some
> people hate it). I don't want to deal another MTA, is it possible to get
> that sendmail menu back?
Yes, but that doesn't change anything since message-mode also uses
sendmail for sending mail by default, like the old (and much inferior)
mail-mode.
Sven
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09-29-2010, 03:01 PM
T o n g
emacs: send mail with sendmail
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:31:14 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2010-09-29 05:04 +0200, T o n g wrote:
>
>> Having updated emacs to v23.2+1-4, I lost the "send mail (with
>> sendmail)" menu, but get a "send mail (with gnus message)" menu
>> instead. As you might have guessed, it doesn't work for me.
>
> Did it work before on the same machine?
Yes, with the "send mail (with sendmail)" menu, and my sendmail is still
working.
>> $ tail -1 /var/log/mail.log
>> Sep 28 23:00:07 coral sm-msp-queue[5145]: o8SATjAs007592: to=root,
>> ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=16:30:22, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>> pri=4530639, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
>> Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
>
> Your MTA seems to be broken. Can you send mail with /usr/bin/mail?
I never directly use /usr/bin/mail to send email, but sendmail instead,
which goes through my ISP Smart Host.
>> The sendmail has been working fine for me for over 10 years (despite
>> some people hate it). I don't want to deal another MTA, is it possible
>> to get that sendmail menu back?
>
> Yes, but that doesn't change anything since message-mode also uses
> sendmail for sending mail by default, like the old (and much inferior)
> mail-mode.
Ok, I guess this is the mode that you are talking about:
Message mode:
Major mode for editing mail and news to be sent.
But why I get into this via the "send mail (with *gnus message*)" menu?
BTW, I don't have the gnus package installed, and hope not as well.
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09-29-2010, 04:02 PM
Sven Joachim
emacs: send mail with sendmail
On 2010-09-29 17:01 +0200, T o n g wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:31:14 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
>
>> On 2010-09-29 05:04 +0200, T o n g wrote:
>>
>>> Having updated emacs to v23.2+1-4, I lost the "send mail (with
>>> sendmail)" menu, but get a "send mail (with gnus message)" menu
>>> instead. As you might have guessed, it doesn't work for me.
>>
>> Did it work before on the same machine?
>
> Yes, with the "send mail (with sendmail)" menu, and my sendmail is still
> working.
Did you customize any of the mail-* variables in Emacs?
>>> $ tail -1 /var/log/mail.log
>>> Sep 28 23:00:07 coral sm-msp-queue[5145]: o8SATjAs007592: to=root,
>>> ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=16:30:22, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>>> pri=4530639, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
>>> Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
>>
>> Your MTA seems to be broken. Can you send mail with /usr/bin/mail?
>
> I never directly use /usr/bin/mail to send email, but sendmail instead,
> which goes through my ISP Smart Host.
Your mail.log shows a failed attempt to send mail to root. Relaying
that mail to your ISP would not have been any good, presumably.
>>> The sendmail has been working fine for me for over 10 years (despite
>>> some people hate it). I don't want to deal another MTA, is it possible
>>> to get that sendmail menu back?
>>
>> Yes, but that doesn't change anything since message-mode also uses
>> sendmail for sending mail by default, like the old (and much inferior)
>> mail-mode.
In case you want that back, (setq mail-user-agent 'sendmail-user-agent)
does the trick. Can you send mail if you do that?
> Ok, I guess this is the mode that you are talking about:
>
> Message mode:
> Major mode for editing mail and news to be sent.
>
> But why I get into this via the "send mail (with *gnus message*)" menu?
The menu item may be a bit misleadingly labeled.
> BTW, I don't have the gnus package installed, and hope not as well.
Gnus comes with Emacs, and message-mode is part of it. But you don't
have to manage your mail and news with Gnus to use message-mode.
Sven
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