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Old 08-04-2010, 09:34 AM
pierre poulos
 
Default Can only access Debian website through proxy

Using Iceweasel, Google Chrome and Lynx I cannot access http;//www.debian.org or any of the mirrors without using an external web proxy. My isp says they can access fine on their own machines. My wife's

computer running Firefox on WinXP sp3 on the same connection also works fine. I have had to change my apt sources list as it was unable to access the
security updates. What's wrong with my machine.
I am running lenny current.
 
Old 08-04-2010, 09:48 AM
Jochen Schulz
 
Default Can only access Debian website through proxy

pierre poulos:
>
> Using Iceweasel, Google Chrome and Lynx I cannot access http;//

I guess you meant to write "http://" instead of "http;//".

> www.debian.org or any of the mirrors without using an external web proxy.

What error message do you get?

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Old 08-04-2010, 09:56 AM
pierre poulos
 
Default Can only access Debian website through proxy

It just sits on connecting.... then times out (sorry about the typo)

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Jochen Schulz <ml@well-adjusted.de> wrote:

pierre poulos:

>

> Using Iceweasel, Google Chrome and Lynx I cannot access http;//



I guess you meant to write "http://" instead of "http;//".



> www.debian.org or any of the mirrors without using an external web proxy.



What error message do you get?



J.

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Old 08-04-2010, 01:23 PM
Jochen Schulz
 
Default Can only access Debian website through proxy

pierre poulos:
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Jochen Schulz <ml@well-adjusted.de> wrote:
>> pierre poulos:
>>>
>>> Using Iceweasel, Google Chrome and Lynx I cannot access http;//
>>> www.debian.org or any of the mirrors without using an external web
>>> proxy.
>>
>> What error message do you get?
>
> It just sits on connecting.... then times out (sorry about the typo)

And what is the exact error message Iceweasel shows? I am asking because
I suspect you may have a global proxy configured somewhere and the
message would indicate that. You can also try

$ env | grep -i proxy

to see whether that is the case. Can you ping www.debian.org? Have you
tried editing your sources.list to use ftp:// instead of http://?

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Old 08-04-2010, 03:01 PM
Bob Proulx
 
Default Can only access Debian website through proxy

Jochen Schulz wrote:
> And what is the exact error message Iceweasel shows? I am asking because
> I suspect you may have a global proxy configured somewhere and the
> message would indicate that. You can also try
>
> $ env | grep -i proxy
>
> to see whether that is the case. Can you ping www.debian.org? Have you
> tried editing your sources.list to use ftp:// instead of http://?

And additionally the following might show something interesting too.

# find /etc/apt -type f -exec grep -i proxy {} +

Bob
 
Old 08-04-2010, 09:00 PM
Camaleón
 
Default Can only access Debian website through proxy

On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:34:06 +1000, pierre poulos wrote:

> Using Iceweasel, Google Chrome and Lynx I cannot access http;//
> www.debian.org or any of the mirrors without using an external web
> proxy. My isp says they can access fine on their own machines. My wife's
> computer running Firefox on WinXP sp3 on the same connection also works
> fine. I have had to change my apt sources list as it was unable to
> access the
> security updates. What's wrong with my machine. I am running lenny
> current.

Does it happen with any site or just some?

Is not the first time I've seen an ISP having troubles for accessing
specific websites/servers/network routes which can be only reached using
an external proxy or another connection (i.e., by dial-up session with
another ISP).

Give them a prudential time lapse and check later if the error still
persists.

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Old 08-05-2010, 11:56 AM
pierre poulos
 
Default Can only access Debian website through proxy

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Jochen Schulz <ml@well-adjusted.de> wrote:

pierre poulos:

> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Jochen Schulz <ml@well-adjusted.de> wrote:

>> pierre poulos:

>>>

>>> Using Iceweasel, Google Chrome and Lynx I cannot access http;//

>>> www.debian.org or any of the mirrors without using an external web

>>> proxy.

>>

>> What error message do you get?

>

> It just sits on connecting.... then times out (sorry about the typo)



And what is the exact error message Iceweasel shows? I am asking because

I suspect you may have a global proxy configured somewhere and the

message would indicate that. You can also try


Failed to Connect

Iceweasel can't establish a connection to the server at www.debian.org.

Though the site seems valid, the browser was unable to establish a connection.


*** * Could the site be temporarily unavailable? Try again later.
*** * Are you unable to browse other sites?* Check the computer's network connection.
*** * Is your computer or network protected by a firewall or proxy? Incorrect settings can interfere with Web browsing.




$ env | grep -i proxy

Nothing, even as root
*

to see whether that is the case. Can you ping www.debian.org?
PING www.debian.org (61.5.210.7) 56(84) bytes of data.

64 bytes from www.debian.org (61.5.210.7): icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=56.8 ms
64 bytes from www.debian.org (61.5.210.7): icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=53.2 ms

64 bytes from www.debian.org (61.5.210.7): icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=57.3 ms
64 bytes from www.debian.org (61.5.210.7): icmp_seq=4 ttl=50 time=53.6 ms

64 bytes from www.debian.org (61.5.210.7): icmp_seq=5 ttl=50 time=61.4 ms
64 bytes from www.debian.org (61.5.210.7): icmp_seq=6 ttl=50 time=79.6 ms

64 bytes from www.debian.org (61.5.210.7): icmp_seq=7 ttl=50 time=51.1 ms
64 bytes from www.debian.org (61.5.210.7): icmp_seq=8 ttl=50 time=53.1 ms

64 bytes from www.debian.org (61.5.210.7): icmp_seq=9 ttl=50 time=56.3 ms
^C
--- www.debian.org ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 8032ms

rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 51.189/58.093/79.622/8.136 ms

Have you

tried editing your sources.list to use ftp:// instead of http://?

Ok changing to ftp now..

cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux] - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1


deb ftp://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb ftp://mirror.optus.net/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free

deb ftp://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
deb ftp://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main

Now I do

*
apt-get update
Get:1 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [189B]**************************

Hit ftp://http.us.debian.org stable Release.gpg*******************************
Get:2 ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/main Translation-en_AU******************

Ign ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/main Translation-en_AU********************
Get:3 ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Translation-en_AU***************

Ign ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Translation-en_AU*****************
Hit ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny Release.gpg*************************************** ************************************************** ***

Get:4 ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/main Translation-en_AU********************************************* **********************************
Get:5 ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Translation-en_AU********************************************* ***************************

Ign ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/main Translation-en_AU********************************************* ************************************
Get:6 ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/contrib Translation-en_AU********************************************* *******************************

Ign ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/contrib Translation-en_AU********************************************* *********************************
Get:7 ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/non-free Translation-en_AU********************************************* ******************************

Ign ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/non-free Translation-en_AU********************************************* ********************************
Hit ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny Release******************************************* ************************************************** *

Get:8 ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/main Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** *************************************
Ign ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Translation-en_AU********************************************* *****************************

Ign ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/main Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** ***************************************
Get:9 ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/contrib Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** **********************************

Ign ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/contrib Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** ************************************
Get:10 ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/non-free Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** ********************************

Ign ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/non-free Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** ***********************************
Hit ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/main Packages****************************************** ************************************************

Hit ftp://http.us.debian.org stable Release******************************************* **************************************************
Hit ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/contrib Packages****************************************** *********************************************

Hit ftp://mirror.optus.net lenny/non-free Packages****************************************** ********************************************
Get:11 ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** *********************************

Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_AU********************************************* *************************************
Get:12 http://dl.google.com stable Release [2544B]************************************************** ************************************

Hit ftp://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny Release.gpg*************************************** ********************************************
Ign ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** ************************************

Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** ****************************************
Get:13 ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** ******************************

Hit ftp://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny/main Translation-en_AU********************************************* ***************************
Get:14 http://dl.google.com stable/main Packages [1067B]************************************************** ******************************

Ign ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** *********************************
Hit ftp://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny Release******************************************* ********************************************

Get:15 ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** *****************************
Hit ftp://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny/main Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** ******************************

Ign ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages/DiffIndex***************************************** ********************************
Hit ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages****************************************** *********************************************

Hit ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages****************************************** ******************************************
Hit ftp://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages****************************************** *****************************************

Err ftp://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release.gpg*************************************** ******************************************
* Cannot initiate the connection to security.debian.org:21 (2001:388:1034:2900::26). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:388:1034:2900::26 21]

snip snip

Hmmmm is the security entry correct ?

All Web browsers Iceweasel, Chrome, Lynx still need outside proxy to access www.debian.org
 
Old 08-05-2010, 12:02 PM
pierre poulos
 
Default Can only access Debian website through proxy

And additionally the following might show something interesting too.



*# find /etc/apt -type f -exec grep -i proxy {} +

OK
/home/pierre# find /etc/apt -type f -exec grep -i proxy {} +
nothing
 
Old 08-05-2010, 12:04 PM
George-Cristian Bīrzan
 
Default Can only access Debian website through proxy

On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 21:56 +1000, pierre poulos wrote:
> Cannot initiate the connection to security.debian.org:21
> (2001:388:1034:2900::26). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP:
> 2001:388:1034:2900::26 21]

Try, as root:
sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1

You seem to have a default route for IPv6, but no connectivity, so if
you want IPv6, you could try to fix that.

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Old 08-05-2010, 12:36 PM
Jochen Schulz
 
Default Can only access Debian website through proxy

George-Cristian Bīrzan:
> On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 21:56 +1000, pierre poulos wrote:
>> Cannot initiate the connection to security.debian.org:21
>> (2001:388:1034:2900::26). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP:
>> 2001:388:1034:2900::26 21]
>
> Try, as root:
> sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
>
> You seem to have a default route for IPv6, but no connectivity, so if
> you want IPv6, you could try to fix that.

ACK, that appears to be the problem. To make the sysctl setting
permanent, you need to edit /etc/sysctl.conf and add a line

net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1

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