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Old 07-27-2010, 05:29 AM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

I'm using HPLIP /CUPS with the hpcups driver to print using my hp psc
1315 printer.

Has anybody had the issue that during a print job it is impossible to ask
the printer to use both the B&W and colour cartridge at the same time? I
mean, if you select Normal Color it prints even black text using the
colour cartridge (giving a non-sharp brownish grey effect) and when I
select Normal Greyscale it is impossible to print in colour?

I had the same problem using HPIJS drivers as well but the HPCUPS haven't
solved the problem either?

Has anybody ever successfully printed a multi-coloured document with both
the B&W and colour cartridge used where black is printed using the B&W
cartridge and other colours printed using the colour cartridge like in
Windows?

This seems closely related to this bug report:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+sour ... bug/235399

Seems nobody at HP have resolved the issue related to Linux printing or
am I doing something wrong?



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Old 07-27-2010, 08:16 AM
Camaleón
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:29:45 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> I'm using HPLIP /CUPS with the hpcups driver to print using my hp psc
> 1315 printer.
>
> Has anybody had the issue that during a print job it is impossible to
> ask the printer to use both the B&W and colour cartridge at the same
> time? I mean, if you select Normal Color it prints even black text using
> the colour cartridge (giving a non-sharp brownish grey effect) and when
> I select Normal Greyscale it is impossible to print in colour?

(...)

I have that options for my HP colour laserjet printer (using a PPD file,
CUPS PS driver, not HPLIP):

***
Text Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only
Graphics Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only
Photographs Neutral Grays: [x] 4 colour / black only
***

Those options are pretty close to its counterpart windows driver and can
be changed at real time for each print.

> I had the same problem using HPIJS drivers as well but the HPCUPS
> haven't solved the problem either?
>
> Has anybody ever successfully printed a multi-coloured document with
> both the B&W and colour cartridge used where black is printed using the
> B&W cartridge and other colours printed using the colour cartridge like
> in Windows?
>
> This seems closely related to this bug report:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+sour ... bug/235399
>
> Seems nobody at HP have resolved the issue related to Linux printing or
> am I doing something wrong?

Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using HPLIP,
just the provided PPD file)? :-?

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Old 07-27-2010, 02:38 PM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:16:34 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:29:45 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> I'm using HPLIP /CUPS with the hpcups driver to print using my hp psc
>> 1315 printer.
>>
>> Has anybody had the issue that during a print job it is impossible to
>> ask the printer to use both the B&W and colour cartridge at the same
>> time? I mean, if you select Normal Color it prints even black text
>> using the colour cartridge (giving a non-sharp brownish grey effect)
>> and when I select Normal Greyscale it is impossible to print in colour?
>
> (...)
>
> I have that options for my HP colour laserjet printer (using a PPD file,
> CUPS PS driver, not HPLIP):
>
> ***
> Text Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only Graphics Neutral Grays: 4
> colour / [x] black only Photographs Neutral Grays: [x] 4 colour / black
> only ***
>
> Those options are pretty close to its counterpart windows driver and can
> be changed at real time for each print.
>
>> I had the same problem using HPIJS drivers as well but the HPCUPS
>> haven't solved the problem either?
>>
>> Has anybody ever successfully printed a multi-coloured document with
>> both the B&W and colour cartridge used where black is printed using the
>> B&W cartridge and other colours printed using the colour cartridge like
>> in Windows?
>>
>> This seems closely related to this bug report:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+sour ... bug/235399
>>
>> Seems nobody at HP have resolved the issue related to Linux printing or
>> am I doing something wrong?
>
> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón


Thanks for the response. Actually I have chosen the default driver
provided by the hpcups package in Debian. Should I download a separate PPD
from another website and try using that instead?

I configured the printer using the CUPS interface only. Should I
uninstall HPLIP?

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Old 07-27-2010, 02:53 PM
Camaleón
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:38:23 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:16:34 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
>> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
>> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
>> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
>
>
> Thanks for the response. Actually I have chosen the default driver
> provided by the hpcups package in Debian. Should I download a separate
> PPD from another website and try using that instead?

Latest available PPD file descriptor for you printer is (or seems to be)
"3.10.6.15". What version do you have installed (PPD files are stored
under "/etc/cups/ppd")?

> I configured the printer using the CUPS interface only. Should I
> uninstall HPLIP?

No, don't unistall HPLIP. Just check the PPD file is up-to-date.

If not, you can download the "tar.gz¹" and extract *only* the PPD file
you need (/hplip-3.10.6/ppd/hpcups/...) so you can add a new printer in
CUPS using that file (_do not delete_ the current printer, just _add_
another one. If neither works, you can easily delete the new printer and
wait until HP corrects the bug).

¹ http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/files/

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Old 07-28-2010, 04:45 AM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:53:59 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:38:23 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:16:34 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>>> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
>>> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
>>> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
>>> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?

Actually hpcups has generated a PPD file on its own called HP_PSC_1315.ppd
in /etc/cups/ppd

>>
>>
>> Thanks for the response. Actually I have chosen the default driver
>> provided by the hpcups package in Debian. Should I download a separate
>> PPD from another website and try using that instead?
>
> Latest available PPD file descriptor for you printer is (or seems to be)
> "3.10.6.15". What version do you have installed (PPD files are stored
> under "/etc/cups/ppd")?
>
>> I configured the printer using the CUPS interface only. Should I
>> uninstall HPLIP?
>
> No, don't unistall HPLIP. Just check the PPD file is up-to-date.

I am not sure whether the PPD is supplied by the hpcups driver. Is it
recommended that I switch back to the old hpijs driver (it seems to make
no difference to this issue anyway.

>
> If not, you can download the "tar.gz¹" and extract *only* the PPD file
> you need (/hplip-3.10.6/ppd/hpcups/...) so you can add a new printer in
> CUPS using that file (_do not delete_ the current printer, just _add_
> another one. If neither works, you can easily delete the new printer and
> wait until HP corrects the bug).
>
> ¹ http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/files/
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:09 AM
Camaleón
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:45:58 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:53:59 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

>>>> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
>>>> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
>>>> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
>>>> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
>
> Actually hpcups has generated a PPD file on its own called
> HP_PSC_1315.ppd in /etc/cups/ppd

Just ensure you have the lastest PPD version.

>> No, don't unistall HPLIP. Just check the PPD file is up-to-date.
>
> I am not sure whether the PPD is supplied by the hpcups driver. Is it
> recommended that I switch back to the old hpijs driver (it seems to make
> no difference to this issue anyway.

No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that you
can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer, taking
that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.

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Old 07-29-2010, 02:43 PM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:09:01 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:45:58 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:53:59 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
>>>>> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
>>>>> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
>>>>> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
>>>>> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
>>
>> Actually hpcups has generated a PPD file on its own called
>> HP_PSC_1315.ppd in /etc/cups/ppd
>
> Just ensure you have the lastest PPD version.
>
>>> No, don't unistall HPLIP. Just check the PPD file is up-to-date.
>>
>> I am not sure whether the PPD is supplied by the hpcups driver. Is it
>> recommended that I switch back to the old hpijs driver (it seems to
>> make no difference to this issue anyway.
>
> No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that you
> can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer, taking
> that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón


Thank you.

I am going to uninstall the printer and retry with your suggested latest
version of the PPD file.


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Old 07-29-2010, 02:57 PM
Camaleón
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:43:10 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:09:01 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that you
>> can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer, taking
>> that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.

> Thank you.
>
> I am going to uninstall the printer and retry with your suggested latest
> version of the PPD file.

No need to "unistall". Just add a new printer in Cups using the latest
PPD file, that's all.

Remember that you can have as many printers as you like (even for the
same device!), each one using a different driver or using different
default options :-)

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Old 07-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:09:01 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:45:58 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:53:59 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
>>>>> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
>>>>> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
>>>>> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
>>>>> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
>>
>> Actually hpcups has generated a PPD file on its own called
>> HP_PSC_1315.ppd in /etc/cups/ppd
>
> Just ensure you have the lastest PPD version.
>
>>> No, don't unistall HPLIP. Just check the PPD file is up-to-date.
>>
>> I am not sure whether the PPD is supplied by the hpcups driver. Is it
>> recommended that I switch back to the old hpijs driver (it seems to
>> make no difference to this issue anyway.
>
> No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that you
> can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer, taking
> that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
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After I installed the latest PPD file for the printer I still see only
the following options in printer settings:

Normal Color
Normal Grayscale
Draft Color
Draft Grayscale
High Resolution Photo

I see nothing about the printer settings to suggest that this latest PPD
is different from the earlier driver. :-(

Should I try printing a test document to see if both B&W and color
cartridge are used to print multi-color documents with black text? (I'm
not too hopeful :-(


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Old 07-29-2010, 04:15 PM
Camaleón
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:02:03 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:09:01 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that you
>> can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer, taking
>> that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.
>
> After I installed the latest PPD file for the printer I still see only
> the following options in printer settings:
>
> Normal Color
> Normal Grayscale
> Draft Color
> Draft Grayscale
> High Resolution Photo
>
> I see nothing about the printer settings to suggest that this latest PPD
> is different from the earlier driver. :-(

If there are no more options for the printer, maybe it's by design. Not
all printers allow the same settings :-?

Does the windows driver provide addional settings than the linux one?

> Should I try printing a test document to see if both B&W and color
> cartridge are used to print multi-color documents with black text? (I'm
> not too hopeful :-(

I think it won't work. You need to be able to define this:

***
Text Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only
Graphics Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only
Photographs Neutral Grays: [x] 4 colour / black only
***

And those options are not available for your printer, neither using the
old PPD nor the lastest :-(

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