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Old 07-30-2010, 03:08 AM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:15:02 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:02:03 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:09:01 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>>> No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that
>>> you can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer,
>>> taking that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.
>>
>> After I installed the latest PPD file for the printer I still see only
>> the following options in printer settings:
>>
>> Normal Color
>> Normal Grayscale
>> Draft Color
>> Draft Grayscale
>> High Resolution Photo
>>
>> I see nothing about the printer settings to suggest that this latest
>> PPD is different from the earlier driver. :-(
>
> If there are no more options for the printer, maybe it's by design. Not
> all printers allow the same settings :-?
>
> Does the windows driver provide addional settings than the linux one?
>
>> Should I try printing a test document to see if both B&W and color
>> cartridge are used to print multi-color documents with black text? (I'm
>> not too hopeful :-(
>
> I think it won't work. You need to be able to define this:
>
> ***
> Text Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only Graphics Neutral Grays: 4
> colour / [x] black only Photographs Neutral Grays: [x] 4 colour / black
> only ***
>
> And those options are not available for your printer, neither using the
> old PPD nor the lastest :-(
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón

I am sure that it was a bug because I cannot afford to waste multi colour
cartridge to generate the black text on pages where I need colour output
also. It does work that way in Windows (maybe because the driver is more
"intelligent"). I'm sure the HP PSC series of Multi-function printers
fall into the category of "cheap" and "unintelligent" (that is the
printer won't do the grunt work of choosing which cartridge to use for
what type of output).

All I need is black text and greyscale graphics to print with black ink
cartridge and colour text and output to print with the colour cartridge.

Hopefully somebody might find a solution to this. The question is how
long will it take for the driver developers to fix it?

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Old 07-30-2010, 06:44 AM
Camaleón
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:08:03 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:15:02 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> And those options are not available for your printer, neither using the
>> old PPD nor the lastest :-(
>>
>
> I am sure that it was a bug because I cannot afford to waste multi
> colour cartridge to generate the black text on pages where I need colour
> output also. It does work that way in Windows (maybe because the driver
> is more "intelligent"). I'm sure the HP PSC series of Multi-function
> printers fall into the category of "cheap" and "unintelligent" (that is
> the printer won't do the grunt work of choosing which cartridge to use
> for what type of output).
>
> All I need is black text and greyscale graphics to print with black ink
> cartridge and colour text and output to print with the colour cartridge.
>
> Hopefully somebody might find a solution to this. The question is how
> long will it take for the driver developers to fix it?

Maybe you are requesting too much for your device :-)

Your printer support status is listed here:

***
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/psc/psc_1310_series.html

- Support level: Partial (See note11.)
- Unsupported feature(s): Reduced print quality and/or print speed (See
note12.)
***

And if you read on (note 12), you find this other KB:

***
http://hplipopensource.com/node/313

LIDIL-specific issues

Most Linux customers may find LIDIL printers to provide very good cost/
value since these printers work well with HPLIP for the majority of print
jobs. However, for Linux customers who require the highest level of
print speed and quality (matching the published specs for these LIDIL
devices) these LIDIL printers matched with HPLIP may not meet their
needs. We recommend those customers purchase a PCL or PostScript-based
inkjet or LaserJet product.
***

Yours seems to be an entry-level all-in-one device, and it's possible
that the linux printer driver cannot handle all of the advanced options.

Just note you are talking about two issues, here:

1/ Choosing "black-only" or "gray-scale" uses color cartridge. IMO, that
should not happen and could be indeed a bug of the printer printer,
although HP can say it's "a feature" :-/

2/ Having an option to selective control when to use the color cartridge
or pure black for printing fine quality photos. That is a feature that
I've seen available only in medium/high level printers.

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Old 07-30-2010, 07:07 AM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:44:40 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:08:03 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:15:02 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>>> And those options are not available for your printer, neither using
>>> the old PPD nor the lastest :-(
>>>
>>>
>> I am sure that it was a bug because I cannot afford to waste multi
>> colour cartridge to generate the black text on pages where I need
>> colour output also. It does work that way in Windows (maybe because the
>> driver is more "intelligent"). I'm sure the HP PSC series of
>> Multi-function printers fall into the category of "cheap" and
>> "unintelligent" (that is the printer won't do the grunt work of
>> choosing which cartridge to use for what type of output).
>>
>> All I need is black text and greyscale graphics to print with black ink
>> cartridge and colour text and output to print with the colour
>> cartridge.
>>
>> Hopefully somebody might find a solution to this. The question is how
>> long will it take for the driver developers to fix it?
>
> Maybe you are requesting too much for your device :-)
>
> Your printer support status is listed here:
>
> ***
> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/psc/psc_1310_series.html
>
> - Support level: Partial (See note11.) - Unsupported feature(s): Reduced
> print quality and/or print speed (See note12.)
> ***
>
> And if you read on (note 12), you find this other KB:
>
> ***
> http://hplipopensource.com/node/313
>
> LIDIL-specific issues
>
> Most Linux customers may find LIDIL printers to provide very good cost/
> value since these printers work well with HPLIP for the majority of
> print jobs. However, for Linux customers who require the highest level
> of print speed and quality (matching the published specs for these LIDIL
> devices) these LIDIL printers matched with HPLIP may not meet their
> needs. We recommend those customers purchase a PCL or PostScript-based
> inkjet or LaserJet product.
> ***
>
> Yours seems to be an entry-level all-in-one device, and it's possible
> that the linux printer driver cannot handle all of the advanced options.
>
> Just note you are talking about two issues, here:
>
> 1/ Choosing "black-only" or "gray-scale" uses color cartridge. IMO, that
> should not happen and could be indeed a bug of the printer printer,
> although HP can say it's "a feature" :-/

Actually this works fine for me. Choosing greyscale option prints using
the black cartridge, but using the colour cartridge does not use print
black using the black cartridge.


>
> 2/ Having an option to selective control when to use the color cartridge
> or pure black for printing fine quality photos. That is a feature that
> I've seen available only in medium/high level printers.
>
> Greetings,

Actually this works in windows. It prints colour using colour cartridge
and black text using black cartridge in the same print job.

I think the Windows driver provided by HP officially actually does the
job within the driver to instruct the printer. It might be a firmware
issue but whatever it is, I am sure it is possible on my printer to use
both cartridges in one print job.


>
> --
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:12 AM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:07:15 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:44:40 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:08:03 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:15:02 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>>
>> (...)
>>
>>>> And those options are not available for your printer, neither using
>>>> the old PPD nor the lastest :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I am sure that it was a bug because I cannot afford to waste multi
>>> colour cartridge to generate the black text on pages where I need
>>> colour output also. It does work that way in Windows (maybe because
>>> the driver is more "intelligent"). I'm sure the HP PSC series of
>>> Multi-function printers fall into the category of "cheap" and
>>> "unintelligent" (that is the printer won't do the grunt work of
>>> choosing which cartridge to use for what type of output).
>>>
>>> All I need is black text and greyscale graphics to print with black
>>> ink cartridge and colour text and output to print with the colour
>>> cartridge.
>>>
>>> Hopefully somebody might find a solution to this. The question is how
>>> long will it take for the driver developers to fix it?
>>
>> Maybe you are requesting too much for your device :-)
>>
>> Your printer support status is listed here:
>>
>> ***
>> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/psc/psc_1310_series.html
>>
>> - Support level: Partial (See note11.) - Unsupported feature(s):
>> Reduced print quality and/or print speed (See note12.) ***
>>
>> And if you read on (note 12), you find this other KB:
>>
>> ***
>> http://hplipopensource.com/node/313
>>
>> LIDIL-specific issues
>>
>> Most Linux customers may find LIDIL printers to provide very good cost/
>> value since these printers work well with HPLIP for the majority of
>> print jobs. However, for Linux customers who require the highest level
>> of print speed and quality (matching the published specs for these
>> LIDIL devices) these LIDIL printers matched with HPLIP may not meet
>> their needs. We recommend those customers purchase a PCL or
>> PostScript-based inkjet or LaserJet product.
>> ***
>>
>> Yours seems to be an entry-level all-in-one device, and it's possible
>> that the linux printer driver cannot handle all of the advanced
>> options.
>>
>> Just note you are talking about two issues, here:
>>
>> 1/ Choosing "black-only" or "gray-scale" uses color cartridge. IMO,
>> that should not happen and could be indeed a bug of the printer
>> printer, although HP can say it's "a feature" :-/
>
> Actually this works fine for me. Choosing greyscale option prints using
> the black cartridge, but using the colour cartridge does not use print
> black using the black cartridge.
>
>
>
>> 2/ Having an option to selective control when to use the color
>> cartridge or pure black for printing fine quality photos. That is a
>> feature that I've seen available only in medium/high level printers.
>>
>> Greetings,
>
> Actually this works in windows. It prints colour using colour cartridge
> and black text using black cartridge in the same print job.
>
> I think the Windows driver provided by HP officially actually does the
> job within the driver to instruct the printer. It might be a firmware
> issue but whatever it is, I am sure it is possible on my printer to use
> both cartridges in one print job.
>
>
>
>> --
>> Camaleón
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Harishankar (http://harishankar.org http://lawstudentscommunity.com)


I'd like to add the note/clarification that the exact issue I'm having is
NOT that the printer uses colour cartridge when instructed to do "Normal
Greyscale" printing -- that works as expected and is good enough for
printing pure B&W or greyscale documents. It's that the printer DOES not
use black cartridge when instructed to print a document in colour that
has both colour graphics/text and black. Most colour documents are of
that nature, so using full colour for even black results in poor print
quality not to mention wastage of colour ink for black (when the result
is better with a black cartridge)

I was mentioning that in Windows, the HP driver handles this
automatically and doesn't need any special options, but in Linux,
printing mixed B&W/colour documents always takes longer and the results
are poorer because the black cartridge is never used.

I am surprised that Linux HP drivers haven't fixed the issue at all over
the years.

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Old 07-30-2010, 08:02 AM
Camaleón
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:12:36 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:07:15 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:44:40 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>>> Yours seems to be an entry-level all-in-one device, and it's possible
>>> that the linux printer driver cannot handle all of the advanced
>>> options.

(...)

> I'd like to add the note/clarification that the exact issue I'm having
> is NOT that the printer uses colour cartridge when instructed to do
> "Normal Greyscale" printing -- that works as expected and is good enough
> for printing pure B&W or greyscale documents. It's that the printer DOES
> not use black cartridge when instructed to print a document in colour
> that has both colour graphics/text and black. Most colour documents are
> of that nature, so using full colour for even black results in poor
> print quality not to mention wastage of colour ink for black (when the
> result is better with a black cartridge)
>
> I was mentioning that in Windows, the HP driver handles this
> automatically and doesn't need any special options, but in Linux,
> printing mixed B&W/colour documents always takes longer and the results
> are poorer because the black cartridge is never used.
>
> I am surprised that Linux HP drivers haven't fixed the issue at all over
> the years.

I would say that is not a driver's fault but a printer design "feature".
Take it as it is. Cheap devices are marketed mostly for Windows platform
(i.e., win-modems that need a windows driver to be properly detected and
configured, fake-raid controllers, etc...).

As I said you before, our HP laserjet colour printer (PostScript based)
do have that option you are looking for. I'd say those enhanced features
come with the hardware you are buying... and the money you spend on it
>:-)

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Old 07-30-2010, 08:06 AM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:12:36 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:07:15 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:44:40 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:08:03 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:15:02 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>>>
>>> (...)
>>>
>>>>> And those options are not available for your printer, neither using
>>>>> the old PPD nor the lastest :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I am sure that it was a bug because I cannot afford to waste multi
>>>> colour cartridge to generate the black text on pages where I need
>>>> colour output also. It does work that way in Windows (maybe because
>>>> the driver is more "intelligent"). I'm sure the HP PSC series of
>>>> Multi-function printers fall into the category of "cheap" and
>>>> "unintelligent" (that is the printer won't do the grunt work of
>>>> choosing which cartridge to use for what type of output).
>>>>
>>>> All I need is black text and greyscale graphics to print with black
>>>> ink cartridge and colour text and output to print with the colour
>>>> cartridge.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully somebody might find a solution to this. The question is how
>>>> long will it take for the driver developers to fix it?
>>>
>>> Maybe you are requesting too much for your device :-)
>>>
>>> Your printer support status is listed here:
>>>
>>> ***
>>> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/psc/psc_1310_series.html
>>>
>>> - Support level: Partial (See note11.) - Unsupported feature(s):
>>> Reduced print quality and/or print speed (See note12.) ***
>>>
>>> And if you read on (note 12), you find this other KB:
>>>
>>> ***
>>> http://hplipopensource.com/node/313
>>>
>>> LIDIL-specific issues
>>>
>>> Most Linux customers may find LIDIL printers to provide very good
>>> cost/ value since these printers work well with HPLIP for the majority
>>> of print jobs. However, for Linux customers who require the highest
>>> level of print speed and quality (matching the published specs for
>>> these LIDIL devices) these LIDIL printers matched with HPLIP may not
>>> meet their needs. We recommend those customers purchase a PCL or
>>> PostScript-based inkjet or LaserJet product. ***
>>>
>>> Yours seems to be an entry-level all-in-one device, and it's possible
>>> that the linux printer driver cannot handle all of the advanced
>>> options.
>>>
>>> Just note you are talking about two issues, here:
>>>
>>> 1/ Choosing "black-only" or "gray-scale" uses color cartridge. IMO,
>>> that should not happen and could be indeed a bug of the printer
>>> printer, although HP can say it's "a feature" :-/
>>
>> Actually this works fine for me. Choosing greyscale option prints using
>> the black cartridge, but using the colour cartridge does not use print
>> black using the black cartridge.
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2/ Having an option to selective control when to use the color
>>> cartridge or pure black for printing fine quality photos. That is a
>>> feature that I've seen available only in medium/high level printers.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>
>> Actually this works in windows. It prints colour using colour cartridge
>> and black text using black cartridge in the same print job.
>>
>> I think the Windows driver provided by HP officially actually does the
>> job within the driver to instruct the printer. It might be a firmware
>> issue but whatever it is, I am sure it is possible on my printer to use
>> both cartridges in one print job.
>>
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> Camaleón
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>
>
> I'd like to add the note/clarification that the exact issue I'm having
> is NOT that the printer uses colour cartridge when instructed to do
> "Normal Greyscale" printing -- that works as expected and is good enough
> for printing pure B&W or greyscale documents. It's that the printer DOES
> not use black cartridge when instructed to print a document in colour
> that has both colour graphics/text and black. Most colour documents are
> of that nature, so using full colour for even black results in poor
> print quality not to mention wastage of colour ink for black (when the
> result is better with a black cartridge)
>
> I was mentioning that in Windows, the HP driver handles this
> automatically and doesn't need any special options, but in Linux,
> printing mixed B&W/colour documents always takes longer and the results
> are poorer because the black cartridge is never used.
>
> I am surprised that Linux HP drivers haven't fixed the issue at all over
> the years.
>
> --
> Harishankar (http://harishankar.org http://lawstudentscommunity.com)


Wow... I just checked the difference between Linux and Windows printing
using my printer. The speed difference is also amazing. In Windows the
printer responds so quickly and also prints the page fast. The black and
greyscale parts of the printed page are crisp, sharp and clear (as it
clearly uses the black cartridge) and the colours are rendered using the
colour cartridge as per normal.

So well yes, the Linux drivers STILL face this issue and I'm not sure
whether it will ever be fixed at all. Even the old hpijs drivers have the
same issue and so does the new hpcups driver.

I feel very disappointed that I cannot take multi-colour document
printouts properly in Linux even after all these years. :-(



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Old 07-30-2010, 08:09 AM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:02:41 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:12:36 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:07:15 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:44:40 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>>>> Yours seems to be an entry-level all-in-one device, and it's possible
>>>> that the linux printer driver cannot handle all of the advanced
>>>> options.
>
> (...)
>
>> I'd like to add the note/clarification that the exact issue I'm having
>> is NOT that the printer uses colour cartridge when instructed to do
>> "Normal Greyscale" printing -- that works as expected and is good
>> enough for printing pure B&W or greyscale documents. It's that the
>> printer DOES not use black cartridge when instructed to print a
>> document in colour that has both colour graphics/text and black. Most
>> colour documents are of that nature, so using full colour for even
>> black results in poor print quality not to mention wastage of colour
>> ink for black (when the result is better with a black cartridge)
>>
>> I was mentioning that in Windows, the HP driver handles this
>> automatically and doesn't need any special options, but in Linux,
>> printing mixed B&W/colour documents always takes longer and the results
>> are poorer because the black cartridge is never used.
>>
>> I am surprised that Linux HP drivers haven't fixed the issue at all
>> over the years.
>
> I would say that is not a driver's fault but a printer design "feature".
> Take it as it is. Cheap devices are marketed mostly for Windows platform
> (i.e., win-modems that need a windows driver to be properly detected and
> configured, fake-raid controllers, etc...).
>
> As I said you before, our HP laserjet colour printer (PostScript based)
> do have that option you are looking for. I'd say those enhanced features
> come with the hardware you are buying... and the money you spend on it
>>:-)
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón

I just followed up before I read your message and actually the answer to
your question is YES, the device does support multiple cartridges, in
Windows the printer use both cartridges to print a page which has multi-
colours and it is clear that the device does support the feature.

Under Linux the black text is blurred and not so black when printing
pages in colour mode.


It's a real nuisance and pain to see colour wasted and the output so bad
compared to when using the black cartridge.


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Old 07-30-2010, 08:13 AM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:02:41 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:12:36 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:07:15 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:44:40 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>>>> Yours seems to be an entry-level all-in-one device, and it's possible
>>>> that the linux printer driver cannot handle all of the advanced
>>>> options.
>
> (...)
>
>> I'd like to add the note/clarification that the exact issue I'm having
>> is NOT that the printer uses colour cartridge when instructed to do
>> "Normal Greyscale" printing -- that works as expected and is good
>> enough for printing pure B&W or greyscale documents. It's that the
>> printer DOES not use black cartridge when instructed to print a
>> document in colour that has both colour graphics/text and black. Most
>> colour documents are of that nature, so using full colour for even
>> black results in poor print quality not to mention wastage of colour
>> ink for black (when the result is better with a black cartridge)
>>
>> I was mentioning that in Windows, the HP driver handles this
>> automatically and doesn't need any special options, but in Linux,
>> printing mixed B&W/colour documents always takes longer and the results
>> are poorer because the black cartridge is never used.
>>
>> I am surprised that Linux HP drivers haven't fixed the issue at all
>> over the years.
>
> I would say that is not a driver's fault but a printer design "feature".
> Take it as it is. Cheap devices are marketed mostly for Windows platform
> (i.e., win-modems that need a windows driver to be properly detected and
> configured, fake-raid controllers, etc...).
>
> As I said you before, our HP laserjet colour printer (PostScript based)
> do have that option you are looking for. I'd say those enhanced features
> come with the hardware you are buying... and the money you spend on it
>>:-)
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón


So your answer is basically "go buy a more expensive printer I don't need
just to fix this problem."

Also I need an MFD. We scan and copy frequently and I don't want to spend
even more on a laser MFD.


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Old 07-30-2010, 08:17 AM
Camaleón
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:09:05 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:02:41 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

>> I would say that is not a driver's fault but a printer design
>> "feature". Take it as it is. Cheap devices are marketed mostly for
>> Windows platform (i.e., win-modems that need a windows driver to be
>> properly detected and configured, fake-raid controllers, etc...).
>>
>> As I said you before, our HP laserjet colour printer (PostScript based)
>> do have that option you are looking for. I'd say those enhanced
>> features come with the hardware you are buying... and the money you
>> spend on it
>>>:-)
>>
>
> I just followed up before I read your message and actually the answer to
> your question is YES, the device does support multiple cartridges,

Of course... it's a colour printer.

> in Windows the printer use both cartridges to print a page which has
> multi-colours and it is clear that the device does support the feature.
>
> Under Linux the black text is blurred and not so black when printing
> pages in colour mode.

Because you bought an entry-level device that was designed for windows
and it's not fully supported under linux. Live with that, at least you
can print :-P

> It's a real nuisance and pain to see colour wasted and the output so bad
> compared to when using the black cartridge.

Next time, read the reviews or ask in the forums *before buying* a
printer. Today is a *must* to be informed on the linux support for any
piece of hardware, mostly for scanning devices (printers are getting
better support those days).

Greetings,

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Old 07-30-2010, 08:22 AM
Harishankar
 
Default HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:17:58 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:09:05 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:02:41 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
>>> I would say that is not a driver's fault but a printer design
>>> "feature". Take it as it is. Cheap devices are marketed mostly for
>>> Windows platform (i.e., win-modems that need a windows driver to be
>>> properly detected and configured, fake-raid controllers, etc...).
>>>
>>> As I said you before, our HP laserjet colour printer (PostScript
>>> based) do have that option you are looking for. I'd say those enhanced
>>> features come with the hardware you are buying... and the money you
>>> spend on it
>>>>:-)
>>>
>>>
>> I just followed up before I read your message and actually the answer
>> to your question is YES, the device does support multiple cartridges,
>
> Of course... it's a colour printer.
>
>> in Windows the printer use both cartridges to print a page which has
>> multi-colours and it is clear that the device does support the feature.
>>
>> Under Linux the black text is blurred and not so black when printing
>> pages in colour mode.
>
> Because you bought an entry-level device that was designed for windows
> and it's not fully supported under linux. Live with that, at least you
> can print :-P
>
>> It's a real nuisance and pain to see colour wasted and the output so
>> bad compared to when using the black cartridge.
>
> Next time, read the reviews or ask in the forums *before buying* a
> printer. Today is a *must* to be informed on the linux support for any
> piece of hardware, mostly for scanning devices (printers are getting
> better support those days).
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón

I think that was harsh of you. I have this printer for a long time > 4 -
5 years and it has served me very well. We've been using this printer and
it has given no issues in every other way.

I've seen this problem on Linux for a long long time and every time I
assumed it was something I did wrong, but apparently the bug has existed
for a long time (and I do consider it a bug, not a "feature")

Unfortunately until HP really takes Linux seriously I doubt whether it
will have the desired impact.

And no, I prefer not spending on devices just to get it working under
Linux. I print occasionally anyway and it doesn't justify the extra cost
either. A PSC was good enough for us then and it's good enough now.

I really thought that the cartridge issue would be resolved by now.
Apologies for my responses, but I have got really really frustrated these
days with the mediocre level of support given by hardware manufacturers
for Linux.

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