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Old 07-01-2010, 11:26 AM
Merciadri Luca
 
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Hi,

I've never used AMD-based computers, and I've therefore always chosen
i386 as I habitually deal with Intel stuff. The fact is that I've got to
install Debian on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core. The AMD world is
totally stranger for me. I would like to know if there are (nontrivial)
differences in the installation process/in choices to make for Debian's
install.

Thanks.

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Old 07-01-2010, 11:33 AM
Camaleón
 
Default AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core and Debian install

On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:26:52 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> I've never used AMD-based computers, and I've therefore always chosen
> i386 as I habitually deal with Intel stuff. The fact is that I've got to
> install Debian on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core. The AMD world is
> totally stranger for me. I would like to know if there are (nontrivial)
> differences in the installation process/in choices to make for Debian's
> install.

When talking about an OS installation, AMD world is the same as Intel
world, nothing more or less to care about than the usual decision-stuff
(32 or 64 bits, GNOME or KDE...?) ;-)

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Old 07-01-2010, 11:48 AM
Merciadri Luca
 
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Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:26:52 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>
>> I've never used AMD-based computers, and I've therefore always chosen
>> i386 as I habitually deal with Intel stuff. The fact is that I've got to
>> install Debian on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core. The AMD world is
>> totally stranger for me. I would like to know if there are (nontrivial)
>> differences in the installation process/in choices to make for Debian's
>> install.
>>
>
> When talking about an OS installation, AMD world is the same as Intel
> world, nothing more or less to care about than the usual decision-stuff
> (32 or 64 bits, GNOME or KDE...?) ;-)
>
Thanks!

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Old 07-01-2010, 11:52 AM
Ron Johnson
 
Default AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core and Debian install

On 07/01/2010 06:26 AM, Merciadri Luca wrote:

Hi,

I've never used AMD-based computers, and I've therefore always chosen
i386 as I habitually deal with Intel stuff. The fact is that I've got to
install Debian on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core. The AMD world is
totally stranger for me. I would like to know if there are (nontrivial)
differences in the installation process/in choices to make for Debian's
install.



No. High Street stores sell all make and model of AMD-powered
machines running Windows. That is because AMD's complete desktop
and server line of CPUs is designed to be x86-compatible.


(Note, though, that while Intel broke off to create the incompatible
Itanium, AMD *extended* the 32-bit x86 instruction st to 64 bits,
and Intel had to catch up when they saw what a huge technical and
market success it was. Thus, the popular 64-bit arch is amd64.)


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Old 07-01-2010, 11:53 AM
Krishna Chandra Prajapati
 
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Hi,

It's true. There is no difference in the installation process of OS (AMD or Intel). If you are using it for personal purpose i386 is preferred. Other wise i recommend i686.

Krishna


On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Merciadri Luca <Luca.Merciadri@student.ulg.ac.be> wrote:

Hi,



I've never used AMD-based computers, and I've therefore always chosen

i386 as I habitually deal with Intel stuff. The fact is that I've got to

install Debian on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core. The AMD world is

totally stranger for me. I would like to know if there are (nontrivial)

differences in the installation process/in choices to make for Debian's

install.



Thanks.



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Old 07-01-2010, 12:09 PM
Ron Johnson
 
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On 07/01/2010 06:53 AM, Krishna Chandra Prajapati wrote:

Hi,

It's true. There is no difference in the installation process of OS (AMD
or Intel). If you are using it for personal purpose i386 is preferred.
Other wise i recommend i686.



There is no i686 arch in Debian. The i386 arch, though, does have
i686 *kernels*.


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Old 07-01-2010, 01:06 PM
Merciadri Luca
 
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Krishna Chandra Prajapati wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It's true. There is no difference in the installation process of OS
> (AMD or Intel).
Thanks.
> If you are using it for personal purpose i386 is preferred. Other wise
> i recommend i686.
Why (briefly)? (Or give me a pointer.)

Thanks.

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Old 07-01-2010, 05:37 PM
Andrei Popescu
 
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On Jo, 01 iul 10, 15:06:33, Merciadri Luca wrote:
> Krishna Chandra Prajapati wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's true. There is no difference in the installation process of OS
> > (AMD or Intel).
> Thanks.
> > If you are using it for personal purpose i386 is preferred. Other wise
> > i recommend i686.
> Why (briefly)? (Or give me a pointer.)

Not sure what Krishna meant, but if you do go for i386 have a look in
the package management system for any packages containing 686
in the name. The description should have more details, but these are
usually the same packages optimized for the respective processors and
all Pentium Pro or later processors will benefit from it.

You might also want to run the -amd64 kernel, which will give you a
mixed system (64bit kernel, 32bit userland).

Regards,
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:46 PM
Merciadri Luca
 
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Thanks. I'll have a deeper look in this as soon as possible.

Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Jo, 01 iul 10, 15:06:33, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> Krishna Chandra Prajapati wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It's true. There is no difference in the installation process of OS
>>> (AMD or Intel).
>>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>> If you are using it for personal purpose i386 is preferred. Other wise
>>> i recommend i686.
>>>
>> Why (briefly)? (Or give me a pointer.)
>>
>
> Not sure what Krishna meant, but if you do go for i386 have a look in
> the package management system for any packages containing 686
> in the name. The description should have more details, but these are
> usually the same packages optimized for the respective processors and
> all Pentium Pro or later processors will benefit from it.
>
> You might also want to run the -amd64 kernel, which will give you a
> mixed system (64bit kernel, 32bit userland).
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
>


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Old 07-02-2010, 07:28 AM
Mihamina Rakotomandimby
 
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> Merciadri Luca <Luca.Merciadri@student.ulg.ac.be> :
>I've never used AMD-based computers, and I've therefore always chosen
>i386 as I habitually deal with Intel stuff.

I have ever choosen AMD when possible and they run all Linux flavours
like a charm.
Just for the record,
- I like challengers, and AMD is Intel's one (with more or less success)
- ATI (graphics) are now owned by AMD and
http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/amd-will-deliver-open-graphics-drivers/
http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/119049
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