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Old 05-21-2010, 05:07 PM
 
Default Re (5): xorg-server failing on IBM NetVista with Intel 82815 video

Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 14:31:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Powell <zlinux...@wowway....>
> There is a newer kernel available in squeeze now, 2.6.32-5.
> Maybe it will fix the problem.
>
> # aptitude update
> # aptitude full-upgrade
>
> This will also be a good test of your kernel installation environment
> changes.

Runs OK. These lines appear on the console.
xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-3
...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686

The first seemed promising but no such luck. Under the
2.6.32-3 kernel X still shuts down with the message
"error setting MTRR ... Inappropriate ioctl for device (25)".

> If everything was customized correctly, the symlinks should
> be automatically updated and lilo should be automatically run.

Lilo continues to work and all appears well.

dalton:/# ll /boot/i*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 May 12 15:07 /boot/initrd.img -> initrd.img-2.6.3
2-3-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7369012 May 11 15:53 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.30-2-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7368816 May 5 09:01 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.30-2-686.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8191597 May 21 08:00 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7915734 May 12 15:07 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686.bak
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 May 12 08:34 /boot/initrd.img.old -> initrd.img-2
.6.30-2-686
dalton:/# ll /boot/v*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 May 12 15:07 /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-68
6
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2024144 Sep 25 2009 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-2-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2234080 Feb 25 00:59 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 May 12 08:33 /boot/vmlinuz.old -> vmlinuz-2.6.30-
2-686
dalton:/#

> you will normally want to manually purge any older kernels that are
> still installed to save disk space *after* the upgrade.

Will do.

Any chance of you posting the customization instructions on
your Web site?

> There is a newer kernel available in squeeze now, 2.6.32-5.

Sid isn't it? But if this is a kernel bug, it is worthy
of fixing for squeeze. But no harm in trying the sid
kernel I suppose.

Thanks, ... Peter E.

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Old 05-21-2010, 06:06 PM
Stephen Powell
 
Default Re (5): xorg-server failing on IBM NetVista with Intel 82815 video

On Fri, 21 May 2010 13:07:26 -0400 (EDT), Peter Easthope wrote:
>
> Runs OK. These lines appear on the console.
> xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-3
> ...

:-)

> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
>

This should also have caused lilo to be run, if the customization
is correct. There are only two or three lines of output from
lilo; so it's easy to overlook.

> The first seemed promising but no such luck.

:-(

> Under the
> 2.6.32-3 kernel X still shuts down with the message
> "error setting MTRR ... Inappropriate ioctl for device (25)".

I found this thread on the internet. I don't know if it's
your problem, but it's worth looking at. I always use GNOME,
so I have no experience with messing with .xinitrc:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/lxde-error-808065/

> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> If everything was customized correctly, the symlinks should
>> be automatically updated and lilo should be automatically run.
>
> Lilo continues to work and all appears well.
>
> dalton:/# ll /boot/i*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 May 12 15:07 /boot/initrd.img -> initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7369012 May 11 15:53 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.30-2-686
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7368816 May 5 09:01 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.30-2-686.bak
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8191597 May 21 08:00 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7915734 May 12 15:07 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686.bak
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 May 12 08:34 /boot/initrd.img.old -> initrd.img-2.6.30-2-686
> dalton:/# ll /boot/v*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 May 12 15:07 /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2024144 Sep 25 2009 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-2-686
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2234080 Feb 25 00:59 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 May 12 08:33 /boot/vmlinuz.old -> vmlinuz-2.6.30-2-686
> dalton:/#
>
> Stephen Powell wrote:
>>
>> you will normally want to manually purge any older kernels that are
>> still installed to save disk space *after* the upgrade.
>
> Will do.

At this point, you only have two kernels installed; so there's nothing to
purge right now. But be sure to add the optional flag to the LinuxOld
section in /etc/lilo.conf. Without it, lilo will generate an error if
there are not at least two kernels installed.
>
> Any chance of you posting the customization instructions on
> your Web site?

Well, I already have, sort of. The trouble is that it's buried in a
larger document on custom kernel building. People see that and think,
"Oh, I'm not building a custom kernel; so I don't need to read this."
But Step 10 on my kernel building page

http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm

talks about customizing the kernel installation environment, and that
part is applicable to both stock and custom kernels. The instructions
for customizing the Lenny environment work for Squeeze also, provided
that you use *only* stock kernels. The minute you introduce a custom
kernel, you *must* use the hook scripts, as documented in the Squeeze
section.

> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> There is a newer kernel available in squeeze now, 2.6.32-5.
>
> Sid isn't it? But if this is a kernel bug, it is worthy
> of fixing for squeeze. But no harm in trying the sid
> kernel I suppose.

As I explained in another post, yes, it is in Sid. If you need
instructions for how to pull in the Sid kernel without upgrading
your whole system to Sid, let me know and I can provide that.
Also, you might try disabling ACPI and try the vesa driver,
as explained in another post.

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Old 05-26-2010, 04:34 PM
 
Default Re (5): xorg-server failing on IBM NetVista with Intel 82815 video

From: Stephen Powell <zlinuxm..@wowway.c..>
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:21:16 -0400 (EDT)
> append="acpi=off"
> in your /etc/lilo.conf file.

X still exits with these lines.
SELinux: Disabled on system, not enabling in X server

waiting for X server to shut down.

This message from the monitor itself appears briefly
on the screen.
"This monitor is operating at a lower refresh rate
than recommended. Refer to your system or graphics
card manual for info. on how to change this setting."

From: Stephen Powell <zlinuxm..@wowway.c..>
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:06:52 -0400 (EDT)
> I have no experience with messing with .xinitrc:
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/lxde-error-808065/

There was no ~/.xinitrc and I created one containing
this text.
#!/bin/sh
#
# ~/.xinitrc
# Executed by startx (run your window manager from here)
#exec openbox
#exec ck-launch-session startlxde

If either of the exec lines is activated and startx
is issued, the screen goes black with individual
scan lines flashing randomly. Also the notice about
the refresh rate, quoted above, appears and remains.

So I wonder whether the problem is simply a fault
with the default scan rate. Any recommendations for
specifying the scan rate in xorg.conf?

Thanks, ... Peter E.

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Old 05-26-2010, 05:09 PM
Stephen Powell
 
Default Re (5): xorg-server failing on IBM NetVista with Intel 82815 video

On Wed, 26 May 2010 11:30:13 -0400 (EDT), Peter Easthope wrote:
> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> I have no experience with messing with .xinitrc:
>> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/lxde-error-808065/
>
> There was no ~/.xinitrc and I created one containing
> this text.
>
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> # ~/.xinitrc
> # Executed by startx (run your window manager from here)
> #exec openbox
> #exec ck-launch-session startlxde
>
> If either of the exec lines is activated and startx
> is issued, the screen goes black with individual
> scan lines flashing randomly. Also the notice about
> the refresh rate, quoted above, appears and remains.
>
> So I wonder whether the problem is simply a fault
> with the default scan rate. Any recommendations for
> specifying the scan rate in xorg.conf?

The key phrase here is "appears and remains". That means
that the X server stayed running. Not well, but running.
Believe it or not, we're making progress. OK, now back to
first principles. When you installed Debian, did you select
"Desktop Environment" from the tasksel menu? How did you
install Debian? Did you boot from a CD? If so, many of the
boot CDs are customized for a particular desktop environment,
such as GNOME, KDE, or XFCE. Which boot CD did you use?
Or did you initially select only "standard system" from the
tasksel menu and then manually tried to install the X server
and get it working? If so, what packages did you install?
What window manager do you intend to use? Is it installed?
You may have answered some of these questions before, but I
don't remember.

And please forgive me for asking again, but will you please
once again identify your monitor by manufacturer and model
number. If you have the date of manufacture handy, please
provide that too. It's usually posted on the monitor somewhere.
Older monitors (circa 1993 and earlier)
don't provide support for DDC2/EDID and must be manually
configured. I assume that you're using a standard 15-pin
analog VGA connector on the back of your computer and a standard
analog monitor. If not, please provide the specifics.
Also, please post the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file that you used
and the resulting /var/log/Xorg.0.log file that resulted when
the server stayed running.

P.S. Please remember to copy the list.

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