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Old 05-20-2010, 10:35 AM
Schelstraete Bart
 
Default Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano

Title: RE: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano





>Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be
>pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants
>virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is
>required to prop up KDE4.* these days.

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Who says that* you need virtuoso to run KDE4?

If you don't need it, you don't install it.

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It's like installing debian with Oracle, and afterwards complain that Debian needs Oracle... sigh...

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Schelstraete Bart

http://www.schelstraete.org

bart@schelstraete.org

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-----Original message-----
From: AG <computing.account@googlemail.com>
Sent: Thu 20-05-2010 10:30
To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>;
Subject: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano

Hi all

Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I
receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso
soprano to work. *Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it
is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't
see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk.

My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even
necessary?

Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be
pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants
virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is
required to prop up KDE4.* these days.

Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue?

Cheers

AG


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Old 05-20-2010, 10:42 AM
AG
 
Default Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano

On 20/05/10 11:35, Schelstraete Bart wrote:



>Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be
>pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants
>virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is
>required to prop up KDE4.* these days.

Who says that you need virtuoso to run KDE4?

If you don't need it, you don't install it.

It's like installing debian with Oracle, and afterwards complain that
Debian needs Oracle... sigh...


I did not deliberately download and install nepomuk, it came down as
part and parcel of a regular update and I also didn't say that I needed
virtuoso to run KDE4 - perhaps you should read emails properly before
launching into a sarcastic and unhelpful retort, Schelstraete. You will
see that what I +did+ write was that nepomuk claims it needs virtuoso.
So aside from your spurious analogy with Oracle, do you have anything
worthwhile to contribute?


AG



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bart@schelstraete.org


-----Original message-----
*From:* AG <computing.account@googlemail.com>
*Sent:* Thu 20-05-2010 10:30
*To:* debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>;
*Subject:* Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano

Hi all

Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze
system, I
receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso
soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems
like it
is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't
see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk.

My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even
necessary?

Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems
to be
pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants
virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of
overhead is
required to prop up KDE4.* these days.

Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue?

Cheers

AG


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Old 05-20-2010, 11:19 AM
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Default Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano

Le 20/05/2010 10:12, AG wrote:

Hi all

Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I
receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso
soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it
is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't
see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk.

My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even
necessary?

Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be
pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants
virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is
required to prop up KDE4.* these days.

Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue?

Cheers

AG




Hi,

virtuoso-minimal is on the recommend list for soprano-daemon, which is
brought in by libsoprano4 (a depend of many kde4 apps).


Here I have:

aptitude search ~S~i~nnepomuk
i libnepomuk4
i libnepomukquery4a

aptitude search ~S~i~nvirtuoso

aptitude search ~S~i~nsoprano
i libsoprano4
i soprano-daemon

aptitude why soprano-daemon
i libsoprano4 Dpend soprano-daemon (= 2.4.3+dfsg.1-1)

Hope it helps.


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Old 05-20-2010, 11:41 AM
Jiří Paleček
 
Default Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano

On Thu, 20 May 2010 12:40:01 +0200, Schelstraete Bart
<bart@schelstraete.org> wrote:



Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be
pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants
virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is
required to prop up KDE4.* these days.


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Who says that* you need virtuoso to run KDE4?


KDE4 when it starts...


If you don't need it, you don't install it.


nepomukserver is contained in kdebase-runtime. There is a dependency on
kdebase-runtime in almost every kde4 package.


It's like installing debian with Oracle, and afterwards complain that
Debian needs Oracle... sigh...


Except for the dependency and stuff, yes. And your post is like sticking
your head in the sand and then telling us what you've read.


Jiř* Paleček

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-----Original message-----
From: AG <computing.account@googlemail.com>
Sent: Thu 20-05-2010 10:30
To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>;
Subject: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano

Hi all

Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I
receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso
soprano to work. *Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it
is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't
see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk.

My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even
necessary?

Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be
pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants
virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is
required to prop up KDE4.* these days.

Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue?

Cheers

AG






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Old 05-20-2010, 02:36 PM
AG
 
Default Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano

On 20/05/10 12:19, tv.debian@googlemail.com wrote:

Le 20/05/2010 10:12, AG wrote:

Hi all

Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I
receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso
soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it
is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't
see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk.

My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even
necessary?

Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be
pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants
virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is
required to prop up KDE4.* these days.

Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue?

Cheers

AG




Hi,

virtuoso-minimal is on the recommend list for soprano-daemon, which is
brought in by libsoprano4 (a depend of many kde4 apps).


Here I have:

aptitude search ~S~i~nnepomuk
i libnepomuk4
i libnepomukquery4a

aptitude search ~S~i~nvirtuoso

aptitude search ~S~i~nsoprano
i libsoprano4
i soprano-daemon

aptitude why soprano-daemon
i libsoprano4 Dpend soprano-daemon (= 2.4.3+dfsg.1-1)

Hope it helps.




It does/ did help, thank you. I just pulled down virtuoso-minimal, and
that dragged in a few more libraries, so hopefully that will shut
nepomuk from complaining at me each time I logon.


Thanks mate - appreciate your help.

AG


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