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Old 02-25-2010, 05:14 AM
Stan Hoeppner
 
Default Correct binary for Intel Core i5

Mark Allums put forth on 2/25/2010 12:04 AM:
> On 2/23/2010 11:20 PM, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:
>> OK, you've convinced me to go with the Intel motherboard. Thanks for
>> all the tips!
>>
>> -PT
>
> Don't go with the Intel MB unless it will only ever be used for Linux.
> If it might be used for Windows, reconsider.

Wow, that's... an interesting comment. Upon what do you base this
recommendation Mark? During 16 years of experience I've never heard of a
boxed Intel desktop board having any problems with Windows or vice versa.

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Old 02-25-2010, 05:49 AM
Matthew Moore
 
Default Correct binary for Intel Core i5

On Wednesday February 24 2010 11:14:19 pm Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Mark Allums put forth on 2/25/2010 12:04 AM:
> > On 2/23/2010 11:20 PM, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:
> >> OK, you've convinced me to go with the Intel motherboard. Thanks for
> >> all the tips!
> >>
> >> -PT
> >
> > Don't go with the Intel MB unless it will only ever be used for Linux.
> > If it might be used for Windows, reconsider.
>
> Wow, that's... an interesting comment. Upon what do you base this
> recommendation Mark? During 16 years of experience I've never heard of a
> boxed Intel desktop board having any problems with Windows or vice versa.

Indeed. I have been using Intel motherboards for over a decade and I have
found them to be more compatible, reliable, and stable than any other brand.

MM


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Old 02-25-2010, 06:23 AM
Mark Allums
 
Default Correct binary for Intel Core i5

On 2/25/2010 12:49 AM, Matthew Moore wrote:

On Wednesday February 24 2010 11:14:19 pm Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Mark Allums put forth on 2/25/2010 12:04 AM:

On 2/23/2010 11:20 PM, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:

OK, you've convinced me to go with the Intel motherboard. Thanks for
all the tips!

-PT


Don't go with the Intel MB unless it will only ever be used for Linux.
If it might be used for Windows, reconsider.


Wow, that's... an interesting comment. Upon what do you base this
recommendation Mark? During 16 years of experience I've never heard of a
boxed Intel desktop board having any problems with Windows or vice versa.


Indeed. I have been using Intel motherboards for over a decade and I have
found them to be more compatible, reliable, and stable than any other brand.

MM




It's the sucky Intel video. On Linux, it's good enough. On Windows, OP
will want something a little... better.


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Old 02-25-2010, 07:46 AM
Stan Hoeppner
 
Default Correct binary for Intel Core i5

Mark Allums put forth on 2/25/2010 1:23 AM:
> On 2/25/2010 12:49 AM, Matthew Moore wrote:
>> On Wednesday February 24 2010 11:14:19 pm Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>>> Mark Allums put forth on 2/25/2010 12:04 AM:
>>>> On 2/23/2010 11:20 PM, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:
>>>>> OK, you've convinced me to go with the Intel motherboard. Thanks for
>>>>> all the tips!
>>>>>
>>>>> -PT
>>>>
>>>> Don't go with the Intel MB unless it will only ever be used for Linux.
>>>> If it might be used for Windows, reconsider.
>>>
>>> Wow, that's... an interesting comment. Upon what do you base this
>>> recommendation Mark? During 16 years of experience I've never heard
>>> of a
>>> boxed Intel desktop board having any problems with Windows or vice
>>> versa.
>>
>> Indeed. I have been using Intel motherboards for over a decade and I have
>> found them to be more compatible, reliable, and stable than any other
>> brand.
>>
>> MM
>>
>>
>
> It's the sucky Intel video. On Linux, it's good enough. On Windows, OP
> will want something a little... better.

Ahh, ok. I admit I've not used the inbuilt video on recent Intel boards in
Windows for anything except normal 2D desktop apps, browsing, etc. I've not
monkeyed with the Windows Aero or whatever they call it of Vista. They seem
fine with 2D only stuff. For any serious 3D apps (gaming) I always go with
an external GPU, usually nVidia.

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Old 02-26-2010, 04:05 AM
Peter Tenenbaum
 
Default Correct binary for Intel Core i5

Mark -- thanks for the warning about the limitations of the built-in video.* I do intend to have Windows 7 on this computer as well, inside of a vmware cage.

Based on the discussion, I will plan to press ahead with an Intel motherboard and use onboard video as Plan A.* If that proves inadequate, I will add an nVidia-based video card as Plan B.*


-PT
 
Old 02-26-2010, 05:43 AM
Mark Allums
 
Default Correct binary for Intel Core i5

On 2/25/2010 11:05 PM, Peter Tenenbaum wrote:

Mark -- thanks for the warning about the limitations of the built-in
video. I do intend to have Windows 7 on this computer as well, inside
of a vmware cage.

Based on the discussion, I will plan to press ahead with an Intel
motherboard and use onboard video as Plan A. If that proves inadequate,
I will add an nVidia-based video card as Plan B.

-PT


That is fine, you can have alternate video to the built-in.

However, there is no point in adding a card to your setup as Plan B with
Windows inside a VM, as the video is emulated. VirtualBox can have
accelerated video inside a VM by translating DX9 calls in Win into
OpenGL calls on the Linux host, but even there, the device driver inside
the VM does not even *pretend* to be an NVIDIA card.


If you want both Linux and Windows, you should have two separate
computers. My personal setup is a (rather fancy) Linux box, and a
(rather fancy) Windows Box. With 24" 16:10 monitors on each.


For serious work, the Linux machine gets lots of attention. For
relaxation, my Windows machine steps up. (For mindless alien killing,
my PS2, PS3, XBOX 360, etc, does nicely.)


Mark Allums


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