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Old 11-19-2009, 06:25 PM
Kent West
 
Default Is This Worth a Bug Report, and if so, against Which Package?

Fresh install of Lenny, minimal (unselected everything in Tasksel during
the install, then aptitude install'd xorg and icewm).

The minimal /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (not included here, but available)
did not allow xorg to detect both monitors. I then ran "sudo X
-configure" which generated an xorg.conf file which did detect both
monitors, but the second monitor is not usable; I can't move windows
over to the second monitor. The addition of the line

Option "Xinerama"

to the "ServerLayout" section fixed that problem.

Is this a bug worth reporting, or will it be considered more of a
wish-list, or what? And if it's worth reporting as a bug, against which
package should it be reported?


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Old 11-19-2009, 08:33 PM
Paul E Condon
 
Default Is This Worth a Bug Report, and if so, against Which Package?

On 20091119_132557, Kent West wrote:
> Fresh install of Lenny, minimal (unselected everything in Tasksel during
> the install, then aptitude install'd xorg and icewm).
>
> The minimal /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (not included here, but available)
> did not allow xorg to detect both monitors. I then ran "sudo X
> -configure" which generated an xorg.conf file which did detect both
> monitors, but the second monitor is not usable; I can't move windows
> over to the second monitor. The addition of the line
>
> Option "Xinerama"
>
> to the "ServerLayout" section fixed that problem.
>
> Is this a bug worth reporting, or will it be considered more of a
> wish-list, or what? And if it's worth reporting as a bug, against which
> package should it be reported?

In my experimenting with lenny netinstall, I have never been able to get
a fully functional system without running tasksel. I have never found
documentation that actually tells the whole truth about what files it
uses, etc. So it is difficult (impossible?) to debug this sort of thing.

My advice, one user to another, is to run tasksel during netinstall and
be done with it. Not running tasksel does not simplify whatever your real
problem is, IMHO.

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Old 11-19-2009, 09:02 PM
Celejar
 
Default Is This Worth a Bug Report, and if so, against Which Package?

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:33:02 -0700
Paul E Condon <pecondon@mesanetworks.net> wrote:

...

> In my experimenting with lenny netinstall, I have never been able to get
> a fully functional system without running tasksel. I have never found
> documentation that actually tells the whole truth about what files it
> uses, etc. So it is difficult (impossible?) to debug this sort of thing.

FWIW, while I don't do all that many installs, I don't run taskel, and
I don't think that it has been a problem.

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Old 11-19-2009, 09:49 PM
Nuno MagalhĂŁes
 
Default Is This Worth a Bug Report, and if so, against Which Package?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 21:33, Paul E Condon <pecondon@mesanetworks.net> wrote:
> In my experimenting with lenny netinstall, I have never been able to get
> a fully functional system without running tasksel. I have never found
> documentation that actually tells the whole truth about what files it
> uses, etc. So it is difficult (impossible?) to debug this sort of thing.

That in itself should be a bug or a few.

> My advice, one user to another, is to run tasksel during netinstall and
> be done with it. Not running tasksel does not simplify whatever your real
> problem is, IMHO.

IMHO it does diversity.

I don't do that many installs but i do remember the issues Xorg brings
when installed through the pm rather than during the install. I also
prefer that to letting tasksel haul gnome to my drive - it's a pain to
remove.

And it's fun to debug Xorg which should automagically work but never does.

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Old 11-20-2009, 12:58 AM
Charlie
 
Default Is This Worth a Bug Report, and if so, against Which Package?

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:33:02 -0700 Paul E Condon
<pecondon@mesanetworks.net> shared this with us all:

>On 20091119_132557, Kent West wrote:
>> Fresh install of Lenny, minimal (unselected everything in Tasksel
>> during the install, then aptitude install'd xorg and icewm).
>>
>> The minimal /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (not included here, but
>> available) did not allow xorg to detect both monitors. I then ran
>> "sudo X -configure" which generated an xorg.conf file which did
>> detect both monitors, but the second monitor is not usable; I can't
>> move windows over to the second monitor. The addition of the line
>>
>> Option "Xinerama"
>>
>> to the "ServerLayout" section fixed that problem.
>>
>> Is this a bug worth reporting, or will it be considered more of a
>> wish-list, or what? And if it's worth reporting as a bug, against
>> which package should it be reported?
>
>In my experimenting with lenny netinstall, I have never been able to
>get a fully functional system without running tasksel. I have never
>found documentation that actually tells the whole truth about what
>files it uses, etc. So it is difficult (impossible?) to debug this
>sort of thing.
>
>My advice, one user to another, is to run tasksel during netinstall and
>be done with it. Not running tasksel does not simplify whatever your
>real problem is, IMHO.

After many netinstalls have never used Taskel. Always install bare
bones system that will reboot and connect to the net, and then install
everything as it's needed while working with the machine. Laptops and
Desktops.

If I install a machine for someone else then I ask what they use or
want to use and install what I think will cover their need, and they
can go on from there.

Probably incorrect, but have always presumed taskel will suck in things
I don't really need.

Charlie
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:51 PM
Andrew Sackville-West
 
Default Is This Worth a Bug Report, and if so, against Which Package?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 01:25:57PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Fresh install of Lenny, minimal (unselected everything in Tasksel during
> the install, then aptitude install'd xorg and icewm).
>
> The minimal /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (not included here, but available)
> did not allow xorg to detect both monitors. I then ran "sudo X
> -configure" which generated an xorg.conf file which did detect both
> monitors, but the second monitor is not usable; I can't move windows
> over to the second monitor. The addition of the line
>
> Option "Xinerama"
>
> to the "ServerLayout" section fixed that problem.
>
> Is this a bug worth reporting, or will it be considered more of a
> wish-list, or what? And if it's worth reporting as a bug, against
> which package should it be reported?
>

I suspect it falls to the question of "what does the user want to do
with their two monitors," and what should the default behavior
be. shrug.

If *you* think it's a bug, then file it, or find your way to the
proper developers (Debian X Strike Force?) and ask them.

.02

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