Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
I have a (old) Pentium 75 that used to run Etch. I have been trying to
install Lenny on it without success. The installation stops at the 6%
point of the "Installation of Base System" step. Various packages are
being retrieved at that point. At different times, the installation has
stopped while it was getting dpkg, coreutils, bdsutils, and libselinux1.
When the installation stalls, I can't get CTRL-ALT-F4 to open another
console, so I can't tell exactly what was going on.
I have tried both the Lenny debian-500-i386-CD-1.iso and the
debian-500-i386-netinst.iso. Neither works. The disks have been used to
install Lenny on other machines, so I know that they are not the
problem.
Any ideas to diagnose what is going on or to get the installation to
complete would be appreciated. The output of lshw (from the System
Rescue CD) is below.
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03-11-2009, 07:44 PM
Robert Hodgins
Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
I use an ATA Force card so that the machine can recognize the "large"
hard drive and boot from the CD reader using an SBM card. I doubt that
these are the problem since Etch installed okay, but heck, who knows.
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03-11-2009, 10:00 PM
Chris Jones
Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 04:39:51PM EDT, Robert Hodgins wrote:
> Any ideas to diagnose what is going on or to get the installation to
> complete would be appreciated.
Not sure.. but have you tried (re)installing etch.. just to make sure
lenny vs. etch is really the problem?
Thanks,
CJ
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03-12-2009, 01:14 AM
Robert Hodgins
Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 19:00 -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 04:39:51PM EDT, Robert Hodgins wrote:
>
> > Any ideas to diagnose what is going on or to get the installation to
> > complete would be appreciated.
>
> Not sure.. but have you tried (re)installing etch.. just to make sure
> lenny vs. etch is really the problem?
Yup, I did a reinstall of Etch. I just did a minimal install this time
(unchecked all the options in tasksel). I was able to get througt the
base install and right up to the installation of GRUB and the reboot and
could log in. In other words, no surprises. Etch is installable.
I've not got through the base install the Lenny CDs, however.
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03-12-2009, 02:09 AM
Stefan Monnier
Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
> Yup, I did a reinstall of Etch. I just did a minimal install this time
> (unchecked all the options in tasksel). I was able to get througt the
> base install and right up to the installation of GRUB and the reboot and
> could log in. In other words, no surprises. Etch is installable.
> I've not got through the base install the Lenny CDs, however.
How about doing an upgrade instead?
You could even try to do it incrementally.
Stefan
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03-12-2009, 06:22 AM
Csanyi Pal
Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Yup, I did a reinstall of Etch. I just did a minimal install this time
>> (unchecked all the options in tasksel). I was able to get througt the
>> base install and right up to the installation of GRUB and the reboot and
>> could log in. In other words, no surprises. Etch is installable.
>
>> I've not got through the base install the Lenny CDs, however.
>
> How about doing an upgrade instead?
> You could even try to do it incrementally.
I had a problem to upgrade on an old Pentium with K6 uProcessor from
Etch to Lenny.
When I edited the sources.list so that I can to update aptitude from a
Debian Lenny mirror then I get error message: Illegal instruction and
can't to use aptitude anymore.
I have tried too to install Lenny from a netinstall or from the first
Lenny's installation CD but at the point of setting up mirror for
further installation, when I'm running aptitude update I get the abowe
mentioned error message. But when I remove the mirror lines in
sources.list, and do aptitude update, then the aptitude works again.
So, I can't to use the Debian mirror with Lenny, but with Etch this
works fine. What can be the problem here?
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03-12-2009, 04:51 PM
Robert Hodgins
Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
> How about doing an upgrade instead?
> You could even try to do it incrementally.
>
Thank you. You are right. I could do that.
Still, I'd like to know why the Etch installer is successful and the
Lenny installer isn't. Should I still be using this machine "down the
road" (and I'd like to keep it going as long as the hardware holds up),
incremental upgrades from Etch to Lenny to the next version...and so
on...are going to get a bit tedious.
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03-12-2009, 05:31 PM
Stefan Monnier
Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
>> How about doing an upgrade instead?
> Still, I'd like to know why the Etch installer is successful and the
> Lenny installer isn't. Should I still be using this machine "down the
> road" (and I'd like to keep it going as long as the hardware holds up),
> incremental upgrades from Etch to Lenny to the next version...and so
> on...are going to get a bit tedious.
FWIW, I use `testing' specifically because I find such upgrades
horrendous: I much prefer spending 5 minutes every week "upgrading" my
machine, than a whole day (if not more) every 2 years.
Stefan
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03-12-2009, 05:54 PM
Johannes Wiedersich
Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
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Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> How about doing an upgrade instead?
>> Still, I'd like to know why the Etch installer is successful and the
>> Lenny installer isn't. Should I still be using this machine "down the
>> road" (and I'd like to keep it going as long as the hardware holds up),
>> incremental upgrades from Etch to Lenny to the next version...and so
>> on...are going to get a bit tedious.
>
> FWIW, I use `testing' specifically because I find such upgrades
> horrendous: I much prefer spending 5 minutes every week "upgrading" my
> machine, than a whole day (if not more) every 2 years.
OOps. For me it just took about half an hour. 30 minutes / 100 weeks is
too little to be concerned for me -- and certainly less than 5
minutes/week ;-)
Johannes
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03-12-2009, 10:35 PM
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Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
Csanyi Pal <csanyipal@gmail.com>:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>
> >> Yup, I did a reinstall of Etch. I just did a minimal install this time
> >> (unchecked all the options in tasksel). I was able to get througt the
> >> base install and right up to the installation of GRUB and the reboot and
> >> could log in. In other words, no surprises. Etch is installable.
> >
> >> I've not got through the base install the Lenny CDs, however.
> >
> > How about doing an upgrade instead?
> > You could even try to do it incrementally.
>
> I had a problem to upgrade on an old Pentium with K6 uProcessor from
> Etch to Lenny.
>
> When I edited the sources.list so that I can to update aptitude from a
> Debian Lenny mirror then I get error message: Illegal instruction and
> can't to use aptitude anymore.
Just a guess: have you read the release notes. Etch --> Lenny
requires upgrading/reinstalling certain (critical packaging system)
packages first.
wiki.debian.org can probably explain it.
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