On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 20:49:25 -0800, Steve Lamb (grey@dmiyu.org) wrote:

> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Which is why if you want privacy *and* address independence, you need to
> > spend the extra effort to get a dynamic DNS address and run your own
> > IMAPS server, and probably a web server, too, with squirrelmail.
>
> DynDNS has problems since you will get blocked on outbound mail. Even
> with a static IP it is next to impossible to mail AOhelL, Yahoo! or Google.
> Find a decent VM vendor and lease a 256Mb box.

So long as you have a static IP which is from a block recognised as such
(which amongst other things means it is not listed in dul.dnsbl) AND
have valid a valid rDNS (PTR record) in place then you can send to these
people ok. I've been doing it for years.

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On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 08:49:25PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Which is why if you want privacy *and* address independence, you need to
> > spend the extra effort to get a dynamic DNS address and run your own
> > IMAPS server, and probably a web server, too, with squirrelmail.
>
> DynDNS has problems since you will get blocked on outbound mail. Even
> with a static IP it is next to impossible to mail AOhelL, Yahoo! or Google.
> Find a decent VM vendor and lease a 256Mb box.

Find a cheap VM vendor and relay yourmail through a tunnel to it or simply
authenticated SMTP.

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On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 08:13:29PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Bob Cox wrote:
> > So long as you have a static IP which is from a block recognised as such
> > (which amongst other things means it is not listed in dul.dnsbl) AND
> > have valid a valid rDNS (PTR record) in place then you can send to these
> > people ok. I've been doing it for years.
>
> That's the problem, the rDNS. Most of the large email providers don't
> make a distinction between the dynamic IP pool and the static IP pool of ISP.
> Some, AOL for example, will allow mail if your reverse DNS matches.
> However the large ISPs that control DSL/Cable over on this side of the pond
> will happily sell you $5/month for a static IP but will not change the reverse
> DNS.

rDNS is not the only problem. At work ee got a static IP and a different
rDNS for it. We still managed to get blacklisted by an over-zelious
provider (that blacklisted our whole block, and wanted the ISP to block
outgoing SMTP)

I still send mail outside, but use some external relays for some of the
addresses.

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