On 10/21/08 12:08, Paul Johnson wrote:

Andreas Berglund wrote:

I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send
messages to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline
and none of her messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to
me several times but none of them reached me. I have no idea where to
even begin looking so any help would be very much appreciated.
The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my
friend uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to
provide any other information that might be relevant.

>>

MSN was obsoleted years ago when XMPP became the standard for IM. Have
you considered joining us in this millennium and dropping the
proprietary IM systems entirely?


Only if he wants to give up his non-tech friends that wouldn't know
an XMPP from an STD, and don't really give a rat's arse.


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Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 10/21/08 12:08, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Andreas Berglund wrote:
>>> I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send
>>> messages to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline
>>> and none of her messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to
>>> me several times but none of them reached me. I have no idea where to
>>> even begin looking so any help would be very much appreciated.
>>> The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my
>>> friend uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to
>>> provide any other information that might be relevant.
> >>
>> MSN was obsoleted years ago when XMPP became the standard for IM. Have
>> you considered joining us in this millennium and dropping the
>> proprietary IM systems entirely?
>
> Only if he wants to give up his non-tech friends that wouldn't know an
> XMPP from an STD, and don't really give a rat's arse.
>
Ron, if you can't be nice, please leave the Debian lists. You've been
nothing but obnoxious in every reply to one of my messages for months
now. It's not appreciated, nor welcome, here.

Paul Johnson wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 10/21/08 12:08, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>> Andreas Berglund wrote:
>>>> I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send
>>>> messages to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline
>>>> and none of her messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to
>>>> me several times but none of them reached me. I have no idea where to
>>>> even begin looking so any help would be very much appreciated.
>>>> The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my
>>>> friend uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to
>>>> provide any other information that might be relevant.
>>>>
>>> MSN was obsoleted years ago when XMPP became the standard for IM. Have
>>> you considered joining us in this millennium and dropping the
>>> proprietary IM systems entirely?
>> Only if he wants to give up his non-tech friends that wouldn't know an
>> XMPP from an STD, and don't really give a rat's arse.
>>
> Ron, if you can't be nice, please leave the Debian lists. You've been
> nothing but obnoxious in every reply to one of my messages for months
> now. It's not appreciated, nor welcome, here.

Lolz


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Paul Johnson wrote:
> Ron, if you can't be nice, please leave the Debian lists. You've been
> nothing but obnoxious in every reply to one of my messages for months
> now. It's not appreciated, nor welcome, here.

Funny, Paul, people have been thinking the same of you for several years.

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Steve Lamb wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Ron, if you can't be nice, please leave the Debian lists. You've been
>> nothing but obnoxious in every reply to one of my messages for months
>> now. It's not appreciated, nor welcome, here.
>
> Funny, Paul, people have been thinking the same of you for several years.
>
<joke> It's gotta be the last name.... </joke>

Settle guys, it's a valid point that using XMPP transports is a PITA. I
still use msn, if people want to talk to me in a free open fashion,
email / XMPP is available to them.

If they want it to be easy (especially from windows, msn is standard, i
believe) they're free to.

Rich

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On 2008/10/23, Rich Healey wrote:

> Settle guys, it's a valid point that using XMPP transports is a PITA. I
> still use msn, if people want to talk to me in a free open fashion,
> email / XMPP is available to them.
>
> If they want it to be easy (especially from windows, msn is standard, i
> believe) they're free to.

We should encourage them to get GTalk ;-). Seriously, Both Yahoo
and Google Talk are working fine for the family's chat needs. We're
using the chat client formerly known as gaim, pidgin.

Maybe kopete is the problem? (Warning: haven't tried the program!)


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Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca>:
>
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 10/21/08 12:08, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >> MSN was obsoleted years ago when XMPP became the standard for IM.
> >> Have you considered joining us in this millennium and dropping
> >> the proprietary IM systems entirely?
> >
> > Only if he wants to give up his non-tech friends that wouldn't
> > know an XMPP from an STD, and don't really give a rat's arse.
>
> Ron, if you can't be nice, please leave the Debian lists. You've
> been nothing but obnoxious in every reply to one of my messages for
> months now. It's not appreciated, nor welcome, here.

First, fsck you. Yeah, Ron's a Reactionary, anti-Democrat
DemoPublican/Republicrat, and you're a plain old Democrat. So what?
How do you expect them to treat Democrats?

Second, how is that "not nice"? He's stating the obvious in the
current situation wrt non-techs and IM.

Third, don't you dare ever tell someone else to leave these lists.
That's the listmanagers' job. Such chutzpah, you should be ashamed!

Fourth, fscking hypocrite. Never heard of procmail, killfiles, or the
"d" key?!?

I was tempted to killfile you myself for this.


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