2008/10/15 Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 06:45:20AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
>
>> You should then mark the packages you want to keep as "manually
>> installed" to tell apt/aptitude that you want them. E.g. use
>> "aptitude unmarkauto <package>" to mark individual packages or
>> "aptitude unmarkauto '~sgnome'" to mark all Gnome packages as manually
>> installed.
>
> I've been using Debian since what, slink? No, wait, hamm. I knew that. It
> doesn't make the default behavior less ridiculous.

I say that's a bug. File a bug against the Gnome package. swfdec
dependency should clearly be downgraded to Suggests: or Recommends: at
most.

- Jordi G. H.


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On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:


On 10/15/08 20:09, Kelly Clowers wrote:

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:


On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:17:42PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:


But maybe you are more interested in the question why gnome depends on
swfdec-mozilla in the first place. *I don't know that; probably because

the Debian Gnome maintainers consider a flash plugin necessary for good
desktop experience.
My point is that it's idiotic that removing swfdec (to install, say, gnash)
removes all the GNOME packages, not just the metapackage.


Are you sure it isn't trying to remove them because they were
autoinstalled, and now the package that depends on them (the
gnome metapakage) is gone?

apt-get would only remove the meta-package and leave the other packages.


It would, however, nag you about the auto-installed packages, telling you how to get rid of them. *If, however, you wanted to keep (some of) them, just "apt-get install" them, and apt-get will learn that you want to keep them.


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*
I got the same problem few days ago and I had to reinstall my gnome...now when i do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade it always keeps back swfdec-mozilla.

On 10/16/08 02:52, Aioanei Rares wrote:



On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net

[snip]



apt-get would only remove the meta-package and leave the other packages.

It would, however, nag you about the auto-installed packages,
telling you how to get rid of them. If, however, you wanted to keep
(some of) them, just "apt-get install" them, and apt-get will learn
that you want to keep them.


I got the same problem few days ago and I had to reinstall my
gnome...now when i do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade it always keeps
back swfdec-mozilla.


Totally understandable, since "apt-get update" is designed to only
update *existing* packages. Any needs-updating package that now
requires a new package gets held back.


# apt-get --simulate install swfdec-mozilla

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