Jonathan Kaye wrote:

David Goodenough wrote:

<snip>

Without a nearby AP it is kind of difficult, but you can get clues by
looking at /var/log/syslog for madwifi related messages, and looking to
see if there is an interface included in the list you get from ip addr or
ifconfig.

David

Thanks for that David. I checked the syslog and there are a bunch of
messages relating to ath_pci and ath_hal. They don't seem very revealing;
nothing like "bad driver" or "broken" or "missing". I'm not really sure
what I should be looking for.
The output of ifconfig is easier. Here it is (I've omitted the eth0 and lo
stuff)
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0e:9b:cf:bc:0c
inet addr:172.26.0.4 Bcast:172.26.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wmaster0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr
00-0E-9B-CF-BC-0C-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Does this look like it's happy with the driver?
Cheers,
Jonathan



Not to me it doesn't. My madwifi systems do not have a wmaster0
interface. They do have an ath0 and wifi0. I don't have any wifi card
that shows a wmaster0 and I use 4 different card/drivers.


What adapter are you using?
what does lspci -vvv show for your adapter?

Wayne


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Wayne Topa wrote:

> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>>
>>
>>> My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>> None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to
>> David also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but
>> still couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing (without
>> being near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the correct one?
>> Thanks again for all the help.
>> Jonathan
>>
>
> Have you checked if your adapter works with madwifi? Check out the
> Compatibility page on the madwifi site <http://madwifi.org>. I have
> used, and am using, Netgear and D-Links cards. Be sure to watch for the
> version of your card. Many manufactures use different chips in the
> their cards without changing the Card part #, they just change the
> version. That's from someone who got bit by getting the wrong version
> number.
>
> Wayne
Hi Wayne,
So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413 which
according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be acer-wmi
and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the 2.6.25 kernel
so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig output to see if
it's more like yours.
...
aaarrrggghhhh!
This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
#modprobe -v acer-wmi
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such device
Back to square 1?
Cheers,
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Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:



My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.

Wayne

None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to
David also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but
still couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing (without
being near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the correct one?
Thanks again for all the help.
Jonathan


Have you checked if your adapter works with madwifi? Check out the
Compatibility page on the madwifi site <http://madwifi.org>. I have
used, and am using, Netgear and D-Links cards. Be sure to watch for the
version of your card. Many manufactures use different chips in the
their cards without changing the Card part #, they just change the
version. That's from someone who got bit by getting the wrong version
number.

Wayne

Hi Wayne,
So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413 which
according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be acer-wmi
and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the 2.6.25 kernel
so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig output to see if
it's more like yours.
...
aaarrrggghhhh!
This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
#modprobe -v acer-wmi
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such device
Back to square 1?
Cheers,
Jonathan


Try modprobe acer_wmi

wtopa@dj:~$ grep -i acer /boot/config*
/boot/config-2.6.25-2-amd64:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m


Wayne


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Wayne Topa wrote:

> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>>>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne
>>>> None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to
>>>> David also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but
>>>> still couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing
>>>> (without being near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the
>>>> correct one? Thanks again for all the help.
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>> Have you checked if your adapter works with madwifi? Check out the
>>> Compatibility page on the madwifi site <http://madwifi.org>. I have
>>> used, and am using, Netgear and D-Links cards. Be sure to watch for the
>>> version of your card. Many manufactures use different chips in the
>>> their cards without changing the Card part #, they just change the
>>> version. That's from someone who got bit by getting the wrong version
>>> number.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>> Hi Wayne,
>> So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413
>> which according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be
>> acer-wmi and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the
>> 2.6.25 kernel so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig
>> output to see if it's more like yours.
>> ...
>> aaarrrggghhhh!
>> This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
>> #modprobe -v acer-wmi
>> I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
>> (/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
>> device Back to square 1?
>> Cheers,
>> Jonathan
>
> Try modprobe acer_wmi
>
> wtopa@dj:~$ grep -i acer /boot/config*
> /boot/config-2.6.25-2-amd64:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
>
>
> Wayne
Thank you Wayne,
I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
cheers,
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Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:




<--SNIP-->


Hi Wayne,
So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413
which according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be
acer-wmi and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the
2.6.25 kernel so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig
output to see if it's more like yours.
...
aaarrrggghhhh!
This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
#modprobe -v acer-wmi
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
device Back to square 1?
Cheers,
Jonathan

Try modprobe acer_wmi

wtopa@dj:~$ grep -i acer /boot/coacer_wmi
/boot/config-2.6.25-2-amd64:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m


Wayne

Thank you Wayne,
I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m


Change what?? The last line was a hint as to find out if the module
was in the kernel or not.

Just use modprobe acer_wmi, better yet do
cat "acer_wmi" >> /etc/modules
which will add that module to the end of the /etc/modules file.

Remember to use the >> 'not' > or you will wipe out the other modules in
that file.


Have fun....

Wayne



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Wayne Topa wrote:

> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>>>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>>
>
> <--SNIP-->
>
>>>> Hi Wayne,
>>>> So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413
>>>> which according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be
>>>> acer-wmi and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the
>>>> 2.6.25 kernel so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig
>>>> output to see if it's more like yours.
>>>> ...
>>>> aaarrrggghhhh!
>>>> This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
>>>> #modprobe -v acer-wmi
>>>> I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
>>>> (/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
>>>> device Back to square 1?
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jonathan
>>> Try modprobe acer_wmi
>>>
>>> wtopa@dj:~$ grep -i acer /boot/coacer_wmi
>>> /boot/config-2.6.25-2-amd64:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
>>>
>>>
>>> Wayne
>> Thank you Wayne,
>> I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
>
> Change what?? The last line was a hint as to find out if the module
> was in the kernel or not.
>
> Just use modprobe acer_wmi, better yet do
> cat "acer_wmi" >> /etc/modules
> which will add that module to the end of the /etc/modules file.
>
> Remember to use the >> 'not' > or you will wipe out the other modules in
> that file.
>
> Have fun....
>
> Wayne
Hi Wayne,
What confused me was that I already did the modprobe acer_wmi (except that I
used the verbose -v switch) and I reported the result before my arrggghh.
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
device.
I tried that again and the same fatal error. I can do as you suggest and
manually insert the acer_wmi into the /etc/modules file.

BTW, in dmesg, the acer_wmi module is mentioned with the message that it
cannot be loaded because there is no interface. ??????????
This is not my machine so I can't verify anything at the moment but if you'd
like more info I'll post it in a few minutes.
Thanks again but not having fun yet,
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I've been using ath9k in a 2.6.27-rc3 testing kernel and it works
great! The sureest bet would be to download and compile that kernel
which I've documented here:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_install_the_development_version_of_atk9k.
Alternatively, there is a thread in Ubuntu forums where a script has
been posted to compile ath9k for older kernels and build it as a .deb
package. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=874097

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Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

<--SNIP-->


Hi Wayne,
So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413
which according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be


Did the Compatibility page say that madwifi supported your card/adapter
or not?



acer-wmi and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the
2.6.25 kernel so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig
output to see if it's more like yours.
...
aaarrrggghhhh!
This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
#modprobe -v acer-wmi
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such

^^^^ note acer-

device Back to square 1?
Cheers,
Jonathan

Try modprobe acer_wmi

^^^ acer_ Not the same as above!


Thank you Wayne,
I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m

Change what?? The last line was a hint as to find out if the module
was in the kernel or not.

Just use modprobe acer_wmi, better yet do
cat "acer_wmi" >> /etc/modules
which will add that module to the end of the /etc/modules file.

Remember to use the >> 'not' > or you will wipe out the other modules in
that file.

Have fun....

Wayne

Hi Wayne,
What confused me was that I already did the modprobe acer_wmi (except that I
used the verbose -v switch) and I reported the result before my arrggghh.
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
device.


Thats why we need to see the wireless output of lspci -vvv


I tried that again and the same fatal error. I can do as you suggest and
manually insert the acer_wmi into the /etc/modules file.


Do that when/if you get it to see the card



BTW, in dmesg, the acer_wmi module is mentioned with the message that it
cannot be loaded because there is no interface. ??????????
This is not my machine so I can't verify anything at the moment but if you'd
like more info I'll post it in a few minutes.
Thanks again but not having fun yet,
Jonathan


I asked you for the output of lspci -vvv a few messages back but never
got a response, so if you could show us that output (only the wireless
interface part) it would help.


I thought I had also asked what wireless adapter you are trying to get
working. I still don't know so without that information I am not able to
do much more.


WT


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Wayne Topa wrote:
Output of lspci -vvv
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC
(rev 01)
Subsystem: AMBIT Microsystem Corp. Unknown device 0418
Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 3
Region 0: Memory at e2010000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
[size=64K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: ath5k

Hmm. That's a little worrying. "disabled"? "access denied"?
Here's what I found on the Madwifi compatibility page:
Atheros AR5005G ¶
Chipset: AR5005G = (AR2413)
Chip: AR2413 (802.11b+g)
URL: http://www.atheros.com/pt/AR5005G.htm
Supports: IEEE 802.11b, 802.11g
Working: not working with version 0.9.2, dmesg reports: "unable to attach
hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)"

Notes: Several tickets indicate this; no response was ever given. However,
some users have reported success, but could not confirm this.

Notes: Works perfectly on Slackware 11 (kernel 2.6.18.3) and madwifi 0.9.2.
Just modprobe ath_pci after compiling/installing. (this on an Acer 3102
wlmi)

Notes: For Kernel 2.6.22.1 use trunk version (madwifi 0.9.3.1 release
doesn't compile): svn checkout http://svn.madwifi.org/madwifi/trunk
madwifi . That works perfectly (I'm running Slackware 12 on Acer 3102wlmi).

Notes: SMC PCI card: OK for Slackware 12.1 (kernel 2.6.25.2), with
madwifi-0.9.4

Notes: I can confirm that this chipset works great with the madwifi-ng
drivers on Debian Testing. Also monitor mode.

Notes: chipset is AR1423, as you can see through URL

Notes: This chipset works on the Acer Aspire 5040 if you install the
acer_acpi driver http://www.archernar.co.uk/acer_acpi/acer_acpi_main.html

Notes: Works on the Acer Aspire 3053 if you reload the modules (see
http://rik.rikva.nl/?q=node/10) and then run depmod -a (as root)

Notes: Works on the Acer Aspire 5051 using madwifi source pulled 2006-12-18
(OpenSuSE 10.2/x86_64)

Notes: Works on the Acer Aspire 5100 using madwifi source (Mandriva
2007.0/x86_64)

Notes: Cheap Ativa card works ok in gentoo. /etc/init.d/net.athx start does
not ifconfig athx up the device, so preferred wireless won't work

Notes: Works out of the box with Ubuntu 7.10 and 6.06

This all seems quite confusing, as many answers as there are different
notes.

Acer calls this 802.11b/g Wireless LAN. I assume that is the wireless
adapter. Is it something else. Sorry to be ignorant. I have never used wifi
before as you can see.

I hope this is all the information you requested. Sorry to be so thick about
all this.
Thanks for your patience,
Jonathan

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Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:
Output of lspci -vvv
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC
(rev 01)
Subsystem: AMBIT Microsystem Corp. Unknown device 0418
Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr-




Here's what I found on the Madwifi compatibility page:


Ah, you didn't find a listing for AMBIT Microsystem Corp. That means,
to me, that it is not compatible with madwifi. If it was, AMBIT would
have be listed there.


Google for AMBIT Microsystem Corp and see if they have any info on that
card.


Contact Acer and ask them for information on that card.

Did you Acer come with WindBloz or Linux installed?
If it came with WindBloz did it include a CD with software for that
card? Does it have any software for that card installed? Did the card
work in WindBloz? If you have WindBloz software for it you might get it
working using the ndiswrapper package.


If it came with linux installed contact Acer for information on getting
it working.


<-- Snip info about AR5005G which may or may not apply -->




Acer calls this 802.11b/g Wireless LAN. I assume that is the wireless
adapter. Is it something else. Sorry to be ignorant. I have never used wifi
before as you can see.


No problem. I have been there too. I spent 2 months researching Wifi
cards and adapters before I even thought about buying one. My first
priority was 'does it work with Linux'. I now have 8 pcmcia/usb Wifi
working with Linux and one WindBloz pcmcia card on a Laptop my Son gave
me. Guess which ones I use. :-)


Sorry I wasn't able to help you get it running.

Good luck!

Wayne


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