just checking that I can post to the list?

(I tried twice replying to a post and it failed)



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To see if proper titles and headers are now coming through (one can always
hope).


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On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 18:13 +0300, David Baron wrote:
> To see if proper titles and headers are now coming through (one can always
> hope).

What should be bad David? The mail and the mail's source are ok here.
Ralf


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David Baron wrote:
> To see if proper titles and headers are now coming through (one can always
> hope).

Please see the Debian mailing list code of conduct.

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct

Specifically this item:

* Do not send "test" messages to determine whether your mail client is working.

Bob

On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 01:35:40 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:

> David Baron wrote:
>> To see if proper titles and headers are now coming through (one can
>> always hope).
>
> Please see the Debian mailing list code of conduct.
>
> http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
>
> Specifically this item:
>
> * Do not send "test" messages to determine whether your mail client is
> working.

Shouldn't be (or "wouldn't be nice to have", I don't want to sound too
agressive) a dedicated mailing list for this purpose? I mean, for testing
how messages will appear before getting into the real "dangerous jungle"
and don't disturbing "the beasts" (groaar!) :-)

Greetings,

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Camaleón wrote:
> Shouldn't be (or "wouldn't be nice to have", I don't want to sound too
> agressive) a dedicated mailing list for this purpose? I mean, for testing
> how messages will appear before getting into the real "dangerous jungle"
> and don't disturbing "the beasts" (groaar!) :-)

That would be a welcome addition to the mailing lists. Then instead
of saying that there are 3,000 members on this mailing list and
therefore a level of noise reduction is needed, don't send test
messages to it, we could say please send them to the debian-list-test
or some such mailing list instead.

Bob

On Thu 12 Jul 2012 at 10:22:19 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
> > Shouldn't be (or "wouldn't be nice to have", I don't want to sound too
> > agressive) a dedicated mailing list for this purpose? I mean, for testing
> > how messages will appear before getting into the real "dangerous jungle"
> > and don't disturbing "the beasts" (groaar!) :-)
>
> That would be a welcome addition to the mailing lists. Then instead
> of saying that there are 3,000 members on this mailing list and
> therefore a level of noise reduction is needed, don't send test
> messages to it, we could say please send them to the debian-list-test
> or some such mailing list instead.

A reasonable and right-thinking person knows what the purpose of any
mailing list is and is aware that posting mails which do not serve the
purpose of the list is ill-mannered and inconsiderate. A dedicated list
for such people is taking it to far. Especially as it has all the
flavour of closing the stable door.

I'd suggest vgui-discuss as a suitable test-bed. Or debian-devel for
living dangerously.


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On 20120712_102219, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
> > Shouldn't be (or "wouldn't be nice to have", I don't want to sound too
> > agressive) a dedicated mailing list for this purpose? I mean, for testing
> > how messages will appear before getting into the real "dangerous jungle"
> > and don't disturbing "the beasts" (groaar!) :-)
>
> That would be a welcome addition to the mailing lists. Then instead
> of saying that there are 3,000 members on this mailing list and
> therefore a level of noise reduction is needed, don't send test
> messages to it, we could say please send them to the debian-list-test
> or some such mailing list instead.
>
> Bob

If this new list ever gets implemented, I suggest that it have some
special features, which might reduce the resource drain:

1) There be no archive of messages posted to this special list.

2) Any messages posted to this special list are bounced only to
the sender and not to any other subscribers.

;-

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:14:13 +0100, Brian wrote:

> On Thu 12 Jul 2012 at 10:22:19 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
>
>> Camaleón wrote:
>> > Shouldn't be (or "wouldn't be nice to have", I don't want to sound
>> > too agressive) a dedicated mailing list for this purpose? I mean, for
>> > testing how messages will appear before getting into the real
>> > "dangerous jungle" and don't disturbing "the beasts" (groaar!) :-)
>>
>> That would be a welcome addition to the mailing lists. Then instead of
>> saying that there are 3,000 members on this mailing list and therefore
>> a level of noise reduction is needed, don't send test messages to it,
>> we could say please send them to the debian-list-test or some such
>> mailing list instead.
>
> A reasonable and right-thinking person knows what the purpose of any
> mailing list is and is aware that posting mails which do not serve the
> purpose of the list is ill-mannered and inconsiderate.

There can be many reasons for users to post a "test" message into a
mailing list (testing the message formatting, testing message reception,
testing a new e-mail address...) and I wouldn't tag them as
"unreasonable" nor "wrong-thinking" but "cautious".

However, I would have added an [OT] in the subject.

> A dedicated list for such people is taking it to far. Especially as it
> has all the flavour of closing the stable door.

Other mailing lists do have it and these dedicated mailing lists are
usually easy to maintain as they take not many human/machine resources.

> I'd suggest vgui-discuss as a suitable test-bed. Or debian-devel for
> living dangerously.

A testing mailing list that is not listed as it should (e.g., "ml-test")
would be effectively hidden for people who searches for such a place; it
should be renamed first (of course, I mean "vgui-discuss", renaming
debian-devel could lead to the third world war :-P).

Greetings,

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On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 20:14 +0100, Brian wrote:
> I'd suggest vgui-discuss as a suitable test-bed. Or debian-devel for
> living dangerously.

How about LKML? Not only for tests, but also for microblogging with
links to Facebook, Twitter and last but not least LinkIn.



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