When I develop in windows, I use visual studio.net 2008 as my IDE, if
I want to develop in Debian, what's the best the IDE for C
programming?
thanks!


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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Star Liu wrote:


When I develop in windows, I use visual studio.net 2008 as my IDE, if
I want to develop in Debian, what's the best the IDE for C
programming?
thanks!



emacs



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Le jeudi 31 juillet 2008, Steve Witt a écrit*:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Star Liu wrote:
> > When I develop in windows, I use visual studio.net 2008 as my IDE,
> > if I want to develop in Debian, what's the best the IDE for C
> > programming?
> > thanks!
>
> emacs

The troll begins

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Steve Witt wrote:
>On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Star Liu wrote:
>
>> When I develop in windows, I use visual studio.net 2008 as my IDE, if
>> I want to develop in Debian, what's the best the IDE for C
>> programming?
>> thanks!
>>
>
> emacs
>
or vim

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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:


Le jeudi 31 juillet 2008, Steve Witt a écrit*:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Star Liu wrote:

When I develop in windows, I use visual studio.net 2008 as my IDE,
if I want to develop in Debian, what's the best the IDE for C
programming?
thanks!


emacs


The troll begins


Excuse me while I run off to pop some popcorn...








Seriously, if you like an big IDE then I'd recommend eclipse. I've been
forced to use it on a project for the last year and I really dislike it.
It is too heavyweight and gets in my way. To me, a decent editor that does
syntax high-lighting (vim or emacs and others are very capable in this
regard), a couple of xterms, make and gdb (or ddd), are all the IDE one
needs. Probably the older people (of which I am becoming) will say this,
and the younger people, who grew up with IDEs will be horrified. I see
this a lot where I work. There is a longer learning curve I think with the
method I recommend, but I also think that knowledge gained is well
worth the effort.

> emacs

>

or vim


Here we go...

Le jeudi 31 juillet 2008, Thomas Preud'homme a écrit*:
> Le jeudi 31 juillet 2008, Steve Witt a écrit*:
> > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Star Liu wrote:
> > > When I develop in windows, I use visual studio.net 2008 as my
> > > IDE, if I want to develop in Debian, what's the best the IDE for
> > > C programming?
> > > thanks!
> >
> > emacs
>
> The troll begins

I explain my POV since I had complaints off list (We are not friday).
Star Liu talk about visual studio as an example of IDE he look for.
Proposing vim are emacs are not good answer for me, even if both can be
customized to make powerfull things regarding to development.

I can't suggest you anything since I do not use an IDE for C except
occasionally eclipse when I come to a big project. Being able to follow
a function call or to open call hierarchy and go to the definition of a
function is usefull (I discovered ctags recently and I think the next
time I'll use it).

However, you could look at code::blocks (not packaged yet in Debian but
I saw an ITP on it) or kdevelop and netbeans according to debian user
of one of my IRC channel.

Regards

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2008/7/31 Steve Witt <sawitt@raytheon.com>

Seriously, if you like an big IDE then I'd recommend eclipse. I've been forced to use it on a project for the last year and I really dislike it. It is too heavyweight and gets in my way. To me, a decent editor that does syntax high-lighting (vim or emacs and others are very capable in this regard), ...

Eclim may be the best of both worlds. (Not sure how true this is as I haven't used it yet, though.)

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Steve Witt wrote:
> Seriously, if you like an big IDE then I'd recommend eclipse. I've been
> forced to use it on a project for the last year and I really dislike it. It
> is too heavyweight and gets in my way. To me, a decent editor that does
> syntax high-lighting (vim or emacs and others are very capable in this
> regard), a couple of xterms, make and gdb (or ddd), are all the IDE one
> needs. Probably the older people (of which I am becoming) will say this, and
> the younger people, who grew up with IDEs will be horrified. I see this a
> lot where I work. There is a longer learning curve I think with the method I
> recommend, but I also think that knowledge gained is well worth the effort.

Might I also add kdevelop and Anjuta? While they are pretty different
from the class you discuss, they also fit the bill to a great extent.

Kumar
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Star Liu [mailto:minxinjianxin@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:22 AM
> To: Debian User List
> Subject: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?
>
> When I develop in windows, I use visual studio.net 2008 as my IDE, if
> I want to develop in Debian, what's the best the IDE for C
> programming?
> thanks!

This is a topic I am sure will spark...umm... conversation...yeah,
that's it... :-)

Anyway...

For small projects or quick edits, I use Vim. For one or two files, it
works really well. Use Terminator and you can view both files with a
terminal open for compiling/running all in one window.

For medium projects I use Gedit. It will probably be listed in the menu
as "Text Editor". Now let me clarify that by default, it isn't worth
much as anything but a simple text editor with tabs. However, install
the gedit-plugins and it becomes quite the tool. Multiple tabs, syntax
highlighting for many languages, and a built in bash prompt (handy for
compiling/running without switching to multiple windows/desktops) are
just a few of the things I like about it. BTW, I define medium as 'All
of the files I need are open on visible tabs without the need to scroll
through them'. So in other words 6-10ish files.

Lastly, for large projects. I hesitantly suggest eclipse.
I love all of the plugins of Eclipse. I love the many supported
languages and features. I could go on and on about the things I like
about Eclipse.

However, I don't think I have done in update to eclipse/java in the past
two years that didn't break something. The last big java update killed
Eclipse for over a month (known bugs) but I needed the java update more
then Eclipse. Updates also tend to break plugins. It is pretty common as
seen by the next day after an update when the forums light up with
everybody complaining with "I just updated eclipse, and look at
everything that doesn't work!" Even at this very moment, the Bash Script
Highlighting Plugin doesn't work after the last update, and a plugin
from a proprietary vendor works but it kicks back errors on startup.
Both of them are known issues that have been active for a while now.

I have now begun pinning Eclipse on my systems so that it can't update.
I have another system that I test out all of the updates on. When it
finally updates and everything works, then I will update the other
systems. It can be a pain to do this.

The problem as I see it is that VS has a very narrow range of things it
supports/does but it does those things really well. All of these other
editors support a HUGE range of things, but tend to have issues or not
address specific things as well as VS does. I am not aware of a direct
comparison product in the Linux world; just a few close alternatives.
Most of the time, it is my opinion, the open source alternatives are
much better then VS, but it doesn't really help those transitioning from
VS.

This is obviously all just my opinion. Take if for what you think it is
worth. :-D


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