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Old 07-30-2008, 03:50 PM
Ron Johnson
 
Default 2.6.25 Issues

On 07/30/08 10:02, David Baron wrote:
1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the release
candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any effect, the thing
boots OK, but ....


2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets IDE
canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored using hdparm
but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file system is damaged. There
may, in fact, be problems with the drive involved, but these problems rarely
if ever occur in 2.6.23.


It's either the hardware or the chipset, because the nvidia MCP55
chipset with sata_nv and jmicron drivers havebeen working perfectly
for me so far.



I think 2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.


Add this to your sources.list and build a 2.6.26 kernel:

deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main

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Old 07-30-2008, 07:51 PM
Hugo Vanwoerkom
 
Default 2.6.25 Issues

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/30/08 10:02, David Baron wrote:
1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the
release candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any
effect, the thing boots OK, but ....


2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets
IDE canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored
using hdparm but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file
system is damaged. There may, in fact, be problems with the drive
involved, but these problems rarely if ever occur in 2.6.23.


It's either the hardware or the chipset, because the nvidia MCP55
chipset with sata_nv and jmicron drivers havebeen working perfectly for
me so far.



I think 2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.


Add this to your sources.list and build a 2.6.26 kernel:

deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main



Did you? I built a 2.6.26 from kernel.org.
Two items:
1. the NVidia driver 96.43-07 applies without having to patch anything
2. the VMware vmserver 1.0.6 needs update117c and then starting vmware
gets an out-of-memory error.


Beyond that I am of the opinion that 2.6.26 (and 2.6.25) is stickier
than 2.6.24, the last kernel that the -ck patch could be applied to.


Hugo


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Old 07-30-2008, 08:09 PM
Ron Johnson
 
Default 2.6.25 Issues

On 07/30/08 14:51, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/30/08 10:02, David Baron wrote:
1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the
release candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any
effect, the thing boots OK, but ....


2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets
IDE canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored
using hdparm but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file
system is damaged. There may, in fact, be problems with the drive
involved, but these problems rarely if ever occur in 2.6.23.


It's either the hardware or the chipset, because the nvidia MCP55
chipset with sata_nv and jmicron drivers havebeen working perfectly
for me so far.



I think 2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.


Add this to your sources.list and build a 2.6.26 kernel:

deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main



Did you? I built a 2.6.26 from kernel.org.
Two items:
1. the NVidia driver 96.43-07 applies without having to patch anything


That's pretty old. Do you have a 52xx or 6xxx series card?

173.14.05 compiles perfectly...

<pause>

I just realized that I haven't rebooted yet, and so am still running
a kernel from linux-source-2.6.25 v2.6.25-7.


gcc version 4.3.1 (Debian 4.3.1-6) builds nvidia 173.14.05 and runs
it well.


2. the VMware vmserver 1.0.6 needs update117c and then starting vmware
gets an out-of-memory error.


Can't comment on that since I don't run VMware.

Beyond that I am of the opinion that 2.6.26 (and 2.6.25) is stickier
than 2.6.24, the last kernel that the -ck patch could be applied to.


It must be hardware incompatibility issues. Life was so much easier
in 1984...


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Old 07-30-2008, 08:27 PM
David Baron
 
Default 2.6.25 Issues

> > 1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the release
> > candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any effect, the
> > thing boots OK, but ....
> >
> > 2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets IDE
> > canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored using
> > hdparm but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file system is
> > damaged. There may, in fact, be problems with the drive involved, but
> > these problems rarely if ever occur in 2.6.23.
>
> It's either the hardware or the chipset, because the nvidia MCP55
> chipset with sata_nv and jmicron drivers havebeen working perfectly
> for me so far.

The MB is a via chipset and to get DMA to work when I got this MB, I had to
compile the via in
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=y

>
> > I think * 2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.
>
> Add this to your sources.list and build a 2.6.26 kernel:
>
> deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main

Is this kernel ready to play? Not on Sid yet.


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Old 07-30-2008, 09:09 PM
Hugo Vanwoerkom
 
Default 2.6.25 Issues

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/30/08 14:51, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/30/08 10:02, David Baron wrote:
1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the
release candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any
effect, the thing boots OK, but ....


2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets
IDE canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored
using hdparm but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file
system is damaged. There may, in fact, be problems with the drive
involved, but these problems rarely if ever occur in 2.6.23.


It's either the hardware or the chipset, because the nvidia MCP55
chipset with sata_nv and jmicron drivers havebeen working perfectly
for me so far.



I think 2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.


Add this to your sources.list and build a 2.6.26 kernel:

deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main



Did you? I built a 2.6.26 from kernel.org.
Two items:
1. the NVidia driver 96.43-07 applies without having to patch anything


That's pretty old. Do you have a 52xx or 6xxx series card?



It's coming. As of yet it's an mx4000



173.14.05 compiles perfectly...

<pause>

I just realized that I haven't rebooted yet, and so am still running a
kernel from linux-source-2.6.25 v2.6.25-7.


gcc version 4.3.1 (Debian 4.3.1-6) builds nvidia 173.14.05 and runs it
well.


2. the VMware vmserver 1.0.6 needs update117c and then starting vmware
gets an out-of-memory error.


Can't comment on that since I don't run VMware.

Beyond that I am of the opinion that 2.6.26 (and 2.6.25) is stickier
than 2.6.24, the last kernel that the -ck patch could be applied to.


It must be hardware incompatibility issues. Life was so much easier in
1984...




No. It's that Con Kolivas quit and nobody knows how to patch the newer
kernels for performance the way he did. I started looking at his patch
and it is c o m p l i c a t e d!


Hugo







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Old 07-31-2008, 06:29 PM
David Baron
 
Default 2.6.25 Issues

Ok. I built a 2.6.26 (with the rt patch)


Has the same section mismatches as the 2.6.25
Has the same hal/ide problem as the 2.6.25

And ... that bugaboo I had a while back.
BUG: sleeping function called from invalid context sirq-timer/0(6) at
kernel/rtmutex.c:743

This is from the rt patch, I suppose, but back then, it happened occasionally
and did not effect anything. As soon as 2.6.26 started its init sequence,
these came faithfully one per second. I have heard of a little patch to get
rid of these, but that IDE stuff is more problematic may be hitting cmos stuff
as well!


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Old 07-31-2008, 07:12 PM
Ron Johnson
 
Default 2.6.25 Issues

On 07/31/08 13:29, David Baron wrote:

Ok. I built a 2.6.26 (with the rt patch)


Has the same section mismatches as the 2.6.25


I must not be compiling the same source files you are, because I
don't get any such errors with the non-rt kernel from:


2.6.26-1~experimental.1~snapshot.11917


Has the same hal/ide problem as the 2.6.25

And ... that bugaboo I had a while back.
BUG: sleeping function called from invalid context sirq-timer/0(6) at
kernel/rtmutex.c:743


This is from the rt patch, I suppose, but back then, it happened occasionally
and did not effect anything. As soon as 2.6.26 started its init sequence,
these came faithfully one per second. I have heard of a little patch to get
rid of these, but that IDE stuff is more problematic may be hitting cmos stuff
as well!


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Old 07-31-2008, 07:47 PM
David Baron
 
Default 2.6.25 Issues

On Thursday 31 July 2008 22:24:08 debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org
wrote:
> > Ok. I built a 2.6.26 (with the rt patch)
> >
> >
> > Has the same section mismatches as the 2.6.25
>
> I must not be compiling the same source files you are, because I
> don't get any such errors with the non-rt kernel from:
>
> 2.6.26-1~experimental.1~snapshot.11917

I took the 2.6.26-1 that is now on Sid.
>
> > Has the same hal/ide problem as the 2.6.25
> >
> > And ... that bugaboo I had a while back.
> > *BUG: sleeping function called from invalid context sirq-timer/0(6) at
> > kernel/rtmutex.c:743
> >
> > This is from the rt patch, I suppose, but back then, it happened
> > occasionally and did not effect anything. As soon as *2.6.26 started its
> > init sequence, these came faithfully one per second. I have heard of a
> > little patch to get rid of these, but that IDE stuff is more problematic
> > may be hitting cmos stuff as well!


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Old 08-01-2008, 06:31 AM
David Baron
 
Default 2.6.25 Issues

On Thursday 31 July 2008 23:15:38 you wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM, David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il> wrote:
> > Ok. I built a 2.6.26 (with the rt patch)
> >
> >
> > Has the same section mismatches as the 2.6.25
> > Has the same hal/ide problem as the 2.6.25
>
> I don't know if anyone else has noticed that you can not install /
> build the proprietary nVidia video driver using the 2.6.25 kernel
> because it is detected as a Xen kernel. This is a known issue on the
> nVidia forums.

The legacy x86-96.43.05 would not install on 2.6.25 but Debian's did!
The updated .07 will not install on 2.6.23, neither the proprietary nor
Debian's.


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