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Old 07-18-2008, 02:37 PM
"Damon L. Chesser"
 
Default DEBIAN_WIKI: multiple displays question

On Friday 18 July 2008 10:24:18 am Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253989
>
>
> I had one question.
>
> X.org 7.3 http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.3
> Xserver autoconfiguration (most of xorg.conf becomes useless)
> RandR 1.2 support on Intel, ATI, and some G80 boards (autodetection of
> available modes, dynamic resizing, placing and rotating of outputs), but no
> multiple displays anymore
> ATI R5xx and R6xx modesetting and 2D acceleration support
>
> " but no multiple displays anymore "
>
> What does this mean? No more dual monitor support?
>
> PS: Please CC me if possible. I'm not subscribed to the lists.
>
> Ritesh

Ritesh,

Truly I don't know. My desktop has two monitors (Nvidia driver). I have yet
to try to connect a monitor to my laptop, but I bet it will work. I have
wondered about this as well. I know people on this list have used an
external monitor on there laptop. What is your proposed use? Perhaps
someone here can give you info?

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Old 07-18-2008, 04:32 PM
Ritesh Raj Sarraf
 
Default DEBIAN_WIKI: multiple displays question

On Friday 18 Jul 2008 20:07:51 Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> Truly I don't know. *My desktop has two monitors (Nvidia driver). *I have
> yet to try to connect a monitor to my laptop, but I bet it will work. *I
> have wondered about this as well. *I know people on this list have used an
> external monitor on there laptop. *What is your proposed use? *Perhaps
> someone here can give you info?

I've had terrible times recently.

My laptop uses the "nvidia" driver. I had been using X with TwinView
configuration for long. Sometime around 6 months back, one fine day, my
TwinView setup stopped working. I can't recollect why.

Since I've found nobody else talking about the problem, I believe my vga port
might have gone bad.

But when I saw the text in the wiki, I've regenerated some hope that it might
be the X server which might have the support removed (but that would be the
rarest case).

I can't try install windows anymore because the entire hdd is already occupied
by debian.

So, with current "nvidia" binarly-only drivers, are people able to set
TwinView.

Ritesh
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Ritesh Raj Sarraf
RESEARCHUT - http://www.researchut.com
"Necessity is the mother of invention."
 
Old 07-18-2008, 04:34 PM
Ritesh Raj Sarraf
 
Default DEBIAN_WIKI: multiple displays question

On Friday 18 Jul 2008 20:09:50 Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 19:54:18 +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253989
>
> err. "iSCSI Hangs on reboot"?
> You probably meant something else.
>

Oops!!

Here's the correct link.
http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny

Thank you.
Ritesh
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RESEARCHUT - http://www.researchut.com
"Necessity is the mother of invention."
 
Old 07-18-2008, 05:00 PM
"Damon L. Chesser"
 
Default DEBIAN_WIKI: multiple displays question

On Friday 18 July 2008 12:32:29 pm Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> On Friday 18 Jul 2008 20:07:51 Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> > Truly I don't know. *My desktop has two monitors (Nvidia driver). *I have
> > yet to try to connect a monitor to my laptop, but I bet it will work. *I
> > have wondered about this as well. *I know people on this list have used
> > an external monitor on there laptop. *What is your proposed use? *Perhaps
> > someone here can give you info?
>
> I've had terrible times recently.
>
> My laptop uses the "nvidia" driver. I had been using X with TwinView
> configuration for long. Sometime around 6 months back, one fine day, my
> TwinView setup stopped working. I can't recollect why.
>
> Since I've found nobody else talking about the problem, I believe my vga
> port might have gone bad.
>
> But when I saw the text in the wiki, I've regenerated some hope that it
> might be the X server which might have the support removed (but that would
> be the rarest case).
>
> I can't try install windows anymore because the entire hdd is already
> occupied by debian.
>
> So, with current "nvidia" binarly-only drivers, are people able to set
> TwinView.
>
> Ritesh

This is what I did:

followed this guide: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers to install
nvidia the debian way. I have also installed nvidia with the nvidia
installer. Both ways will work, at least for Sid.

then I installed nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-settings

Since dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will not give you a driver selection
anymore and making one from scratch is to much work for me, after I install
nvidia (the debian way) I run nvidia-xconfig. That will re-write your
xorg.conf file to start nvidia.

Then I, after I reboot, I run nvidia-settings from with in the GUI (sudo or su
to root). I then config twin view with that tool, under advanced, you can
also select a secondary config(X Screen tab, MetaMode: Add) where one of your
monitors is turned off. This is handy for two reasons: 1. Any game you run
full screen will not now be divided between the two monitors. 2. Any full
size app will not automaticaly span both monitors, but will only maximize to
one monitor size.

HTH.


--
Damon L. Chesser
damon@damtek.com
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:11 PM
Ritesh Raj Sarraf
 
Default DEBIAN_WIKI: multiple displays question

On Friday 18 Jul 2008 22:30:31 Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> This is what I did:
>
> followed this guide: *http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers to
> install nvidia the debian way. *I have also installed nvidia with the
> nvidia installer. *Both ways will work, at least for Sid.
>
> then I installed nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-settings
>
> Since dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will not give you a driver selection
> anymore and making one from scratch is to much work for me, after I install
> nvidia (the debian way) I run nvidia-xconfig. * That will re-write your
> xorg.conf file to start nvidia.
>
> Then I, after I reboot, I run nvidia-settings from with in the GUI (sudo or
> su to root). *I then config twin view with that tool, under advanced, you
> can also select a secondary config(X Screen tab, MetaMode: Add) where one
> of your monitors is turned off. *This is handy for two reasons: *1. *Any
> game you run full screen will not now be divided between the two monitors.
> *2. *Any full size app will not automaticaly span both monitors, but will
> only maximize to one monitor size.

So that means that nothing changed in the driver.
My VGA port got damaged silently. :-(

Thank you for the confirmation.


Ritesh
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RESEARCHUT - http://www.researchut.com
"Necessity is the mother of invention."
 
Old 07-19-2008, 08:46 AM
Brice Goglin
 
Default DEBIAN_WIKI: multiple displays question

Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253989
>
>
> I had one question.
>
> X.org 7.3 http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.3
> Xserver autoconfiguration (most of xorg.conf becomes useless)
> RandR 1.2 support on Intel, ATI, and some G80 boards (autodetection of
> available modes, dynamic resizing, placing and rotating of outputs), but no
> multiple displays anymore
> ATI R5xx and R6xx modesetting and 2D acceleration support
>
> " but no multiple displays anymore "
>
> What does this mean? No more dual monitor support?
>

I probably means that you cannot use multiple independent displays (such
as :0.0 and :0.1) with a single server anymore. But you can still have
dual-head within a single big display (with RandR 1.2 and so on).

Brice


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