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"Louis Cunningham" 06-10-2008 04:36 PM

KDE install issues
 
Hello,
*** I just installed Debian KDE on my computer, however I am on wifi, and I cannot get the Nvidia drivers off of the internet.* Right now, I can boot into KDE, with the gui, but apart from that there are no icons, and everytime I left click, I get a teale colored menu box.* I know that I am doing something wrong, and would love help.* Any other information needed I am glad to supply.* Thank you in advanced.

In our Lord Jesus Christ,
Louie Cunningham

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"Louis Cunningham" 06-10-2008 04:38 PM

KDE install issues
 
Hello,
*** I just installed Debian KDE on my computer, however I am on wifi, and I cannot get the Nvidia drivers off of the internet.* Right now, I can boot into KDE, with the gui, but apart from that there are no icons, and everytime I left click, I get a teale colored menu box.* I know that I am doing something wrong, and would love help.* Any other information needed I am glad to supply.* Thank you in advanced.

In our Lord Jesus Christ,
Louie Cunningham

It is for us to become holy here and now, for we cannot be certain whether we will be here this evening.
- St. Maximillian Kolbe

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"Louis Cunningham" 06-10-2008 04:39 PM

KDE install issues
 
Hello,
*** I just installed Debian KDE on my computer, however I am on wifi, and I cannot get the Nvidia drivers off of the internet.* Right now, I can boot into KDE, with the gui, but apart from that there are no icons, and everytime I left click, I get a teale colored menu box.* I know that I am doing something wrong, and would love help.* Any other information needed I am glad to supply.* Thank you in advanced.

In our Lord Jesus Christ,
Louie Cunningham

It is for us to become holy here and now, for we cannot be certain whether we will be here this evening.
- St. Maximillian Kolbe

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Kent West 06-10-2008 05:29 PM

KDE install issues
 
Louis Cunningham wrote:
I just installed Debian KDE on my computer, however I am on wifi,
and I cannot get the Nvidia drivers off of the internet. Right now, I
can boot into KDE, with the gui, but apart from that there are no
icons, and everytime I left click, I get a teale colored menu box. I
know that I am doing something wrong, and would love help. Any other
information needed I am glad to supply.


It sounds like either you have an incomplete installation of KDE, or
file/permissions corruption, or most-likely, video driver issues. I'd
change my video driver to nv or to vesa, whichever gives the best
results. You can do this in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.


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Kent West 06-10-2008 10:19 PM

KDE install issues
 
Louis Cunningham wrote:

Kent,


Let me encourage you to keep the posts on the mailing list:
1) others can provide input (and you need their input, 'cause I'm
pretty limited in my ability to help),

2) others can benefit from monitoring the conversation, and
3) the information thus gets archived and becomes searchable

When I ran su dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it cuts out half way
through the reconfigure, not allowing me to finish the reconfigure,
and stopping me after keyboard, how can i fix that?


I'm not sure what you mean by "cuts out". Do you mean the program
freezes, or terminates normally, or terminates abnormally, or what?


You may have to do something like dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg;
others might have better suggestions.



(Original emails below)

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:29, Kent West <westk@acu.edu
<mailto:westk@acu.edu>> wrote:


Louis Cunningham wrote:

I just installed Debian KDE on my computer, however I am on
wifi, and I cannot get the Nvidia drivers off of the internet.
Right now, I can boot into KDE, with the gui, but apart from
that there are no icons, and everytime I left click, I get a
teale colored menu box. I know that I am doing something
wrong, and would love help. Any other information needed I am
glad to supply.


It sounds like either you have an incomplete installation of KDE,
or file/permissions corruption, or most-likely, video driver
issues. I'd change my video driver to nv or to vesa, whichever
gives the best results. You can do this in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
file.




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http://kentwest.blogspot.com




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"Louis Cunningham" 06-10-2008 10:24 PM

KDE install issues
 
What happens is that the reconfigure will run, and then it will just stop abnormally.* It is like the program is done, but it is not because I never get to set my screen or video card etc.* This leaves my xorg.conf looking like this:

# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.

# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.

#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#** sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "InputDevice"
*** Identifier*** "Generic Keyboard"

*** Driver*** *** "kbd"
*** Option*** *** "XkbRules"*** "xorg"
*** Option*** *** "XkbModel"*** "pc104"
*** Option*** *** "XkbLayout"*** "us"

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
*** Identifier*** "Configured Mouse"
*** Driver*** *** "mouse"
EndSection

Section "Device"
*** Identifier*** "Configured Video Device"

EndSection

Section "Monitor"
*** Identifier*** "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
*** Identifier*** "Default Screen"
*** Monitor*** *** "Configured Monitor"

EndSection




*Which is obviously incomplete.
Thanks for the help.

In our Lord Jesus Christ,
Louie Cunningham

It is for us to become holy here and now, for we cannot be certain whether we will be here this evening.

- St. Maximillian Kolbe

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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 15:19, Kent West <westk@acu.edu> wrote:

Louis Cunningham wrote:


Kent,




Let me encourage you to keep the posts on the mailing list:

1) others can provide input (and you need their input, 'cause I'm pretty limited in my ability to help),

2) others can benefit from monitoring the conversation, and

3) the information thus gets archived and becomes searchable




When I ran su *dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it cuts out half way through the reconfigure, not allowing me to finish the reconfigure, and stopping me after keyboard, how can i fix that?




I'm not sure what you mean by "cuts out". Do you mean the program freezes, or terminates normally, or terminates abnormally, or what?



You may have to do something like dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg; others might have better suggestions.





(Original emails below)




On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:29, Kent West <westk@acu.edu <mailto:westk@acu.edu>> wrote:



* *Louis Cunningham wrote:



* * * * * I just installed Debian KDE on my computer, however I am on

* * * *wifi, and I cannot get the Nvidia drivers off of the internet.

* * * * Right now, I can boot into KDE, with the gui, but apart from

* * * *that there are no icons, and everytime I left click, I get a

* * * *teale colored menu box. *I know that I am doing something

* * * *wrong, and would love help. *Any other information needed I am

* * * *glad to supply.





* *It sounds like either you have an incomplete installation of KDE,

* *or file/permissions corruption, or most-likely, video driver

* *issues. I'd change my video driver to nv or to vesa, whichever

* *gives the best results. You can do this in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf

* *file.








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Kent West 06-11-2008 02:07 AM

KDE install issues
 
Louis Cunningham wrote:
What happens is that the reconfigure will run, and then it will just
stop abnormally. It is like the program is done, but it is not
because I never get to set my screen or video card etc. This leaves
my xorg.conf looking like this:


# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool,
using

# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades
*only*

# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically
updated

# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Monitor "Configured Monitor"
EndSection




Which is obviously incomplete.


I believe I'd try the -phigh option (see line above). If that doesn't
work, I'd just start over with a new file by moving this one out of the
way, and then running "X -configure" which will create a new xorg.conf
file in your home directory (or in the directory you're currently in, I
forget which). The output will tell you how to test it, or just go ahead
and move it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then "startx" or
"/etc/init.d/[x|k|w|g]dm restart" to test it.


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"Mumia W.." 06-11-2008 03:17 AM

KDE install issues
 
On 06/10/2008 05:24 PM, Louis Cunningham wrote:

What happens is that the reconfigure will run, and then it will just stop
abnormally. It is like the program is done, but it is not because I never
get to set my screen or video card etc. This leaves my xorg.conf looking
like this:

# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
# [...]


You didn't say what distribution you are using, but I'd guess it's
something later than Debian Etch.


For Lenny, Sid or Ubuntu Hardy, your xorg.conf looks about right.
Unfortunate design decisions have resulted in "dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xorg" not doing very much these days.


It's almost certain that you'll have to do some manual configuration in
xorg.conf. If you have a good xorg.conf from elsewhere (Etch?), you can
probably use it. If that doesn't work, read "man xorg.conf" and see if
you can adjust things to get it working.


I'm sure that a few of the hundreds of people on this mailing list will
be able to offer you example xorg.conf files if that's what you need.
(E-mail me if you want my Ubuntu xorg.conf.)


I recommend using the "vesa" driver until you know you've gotten Xorg to
work. What I've done in the past is to install a lightweight window
manager such as fluxbox and to use startx as a regular user--just to
test that Xorg is working:


$ startx /usr/bin/fluxbox

Fluxbox is pretty minimalistic; don't expect lots of flash and dash, but
it's very fast and demands so little of the system that, if it fails,
it's almost certainly an Xorg problem--not fluxbox.


I might also suggest that you install IceWM, but IceWM has such a
perfect balance of features and footprint that you'll probably never go
back! That's what happened to me ;-)



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"Louis Cunningham" 06-11-2008 05:15 AM

KDE install issues
 
I'll try out vesa,* and I have a ubuntu xorg.conf, but even when I put that in, it failed :, i also don't have internet, so that puts anything but, well kde out of the picture for now, but i'll work on that later.* so how can I go around using vesa?* because nothing seems to working (that is other than my ubuntu os :))

In our Lord Jesus Christ,
Louie Cunningham

It is for us to become holy here and now, for we cannot be certain whether we will be here this evening.
- St. Maximillian Kolbe

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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 20:17, Mumia W.. <paduille.4061.mumia.w+nospam@earthlink.net> wrote:

On 06/10/2008 05:24 PM, Louis Cunningham wrote:


What happens is that the reconfigure will run, and then it will just stop

abnormally. *It is like the program is done, but it is not because I never

get to set my screen or video card etc. *This leaves my xorg.conf looking

like this:



# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)

#

# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using

# values from the debconf database.

# [...]




You didn't say what distribution you are using, but I'd guess it's something later than Debian Etch.



For Lenny, Sid or Ubuntu Hardy, your xorg.conf looks about right. Unfortunate design decisions have resulted in "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" not doing very much these days.



It's almost certain that you'll have to do some manual configuration in xorg.conf. If you have a good xorg.conf from elsewhere (Etch?), you can probably use it. If that doesn't work, read "man xorg.conf" and see if you can adjust things to get it working.




I'm sure that a few of the hundreds of people on this mailing list will be able to offer you example xorg.conf files if that's what you need. (E-mail me if you want my Ubuntu xorg.conf.)



I recommend using the "vesa" driver until you know you've gotten Xorg to work. What I've done in the past is to install a lightweight window manager such as fluxbox and to use startx as a regular user--just to test that Xorg is working:




$ startx /usr/bin/fluxbox



Fluxbox is pretty minimalistic; don't expect lots of flash and dash, but it's very fast and demands so little of the system that, if it fails, it's almost certainly an Xorg problem--not fluxbox.



I might also suggest that you install IceWM, but IceWM has such a perfect balance of features and footprint that you'll probably never go back! That's what happened to me ;-)






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Kent West 06-11-2008 06:04 AM

KDE install issues
 
Louis Cunningham wrote:
I'll try out vesa, and I have a ubuntu xorg.conf, but even when I put
that in, it failed :, i also don't have internet, so that puts
anything but, well kde out of the picture for now, but i'll work on
that later. so how can I go around using vesa? because nothing seems
to working (that is other than my ubuntu os :))


Actually, you can take KDE out of the picture, but at the expense of
being very minimalistic. Create a file in your home directory named
".xinitrc" and in it put the single line "xterm". Now, next time you run
"startx", you'll get X with nothing more than a single xterm window.
Typing "exit" in that window will shut down X.


Manually edit your xorg.conf file, adding the following change to the
specified section:


Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "vesa"
EndSection


Create the .xinitrc file, and then run "startx", and let us know what
happens.



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