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Old 06-04-2008, 01:11 PM
Chris Bannister
Default Running testing? -- read this.

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From: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:14:03 -0500
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:05:45 -0400, Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> said:

> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I thought I had answered that. The only version that th project
>> releases for end users is stable.

> Debian has been releasing versions of testing for end users for years.

This is perhaps a matter of semantics.

Where I come from, when you are testing something, it is not
"released". Releases, in my view, have release numbers, so people can
refer to them in bugs and recommend to other folks; our testing is
volatile, and changes at least daily. I do agree that microsoft has
blurred issue, but releasing things early to paying consumers to test,
but hey.

We call it testing for a reason: it is a a branch for testing
what our next release will be. Do we try to keep it as close to a
viable release as we can? Sure. Do we try to make it easy for people to
test? Absolutely. But it would be diseembling to pretend that this
version is anything but a test version of a product under development,
and that stuff happens with development versions.

People who run our test versions are part of our community, they
are helping us test our development packages. We will not make things
harder for them than they need to be, but they should also not be
shielded from the fact (and it is a fact) that what they are ending up
installing is a test version of a product under development.

I also made an assumption: an end user is one who does not care
to be a early adopter guinea pig; and for people who do not care for
breakage and do not want to participate in product development and
testing, the only variant we produce is called the stable release

If the odds are a million to one against something occurring, chances
are 50-50 it will.
Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/>
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