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Old 06-25-2013, 06:09 PM
Sebastian Salvino
 
Default it is avahi? network

Please email back the output of:

dig local. SOA

On Jun 25, 2013 3:05 PM, "Michael" <codejodler@gmx.ch> wrote:
Hannu,



The only things a fresh avahi-daemon installation puts into the config (that is, not commented) are:



[server]

use-ipv4=yes

use-ipv6=yes

ratelimit-interval-usec=1000000

ratelimit-burst=1000



[wide-area]

enable-wide-area=yes



[publish]



[reflector]



[rlimits]

rlimit-core=0

rlimit-data="">
rlimit-fsize=0

rlimit-nofile=768

rlimit-stack=4194304

rlimit-nproc=3



If there was a domain name default, it would be "domain-name=local" (but commented out), without dot. But it will be derived from your hostname anyway.



So maybe try commenting (disabling) any domain setup. If any, it should be something like 'gone.local' if gone is your machine.



Check the /etc/avahi/hosts file too. My version has commented examples, only:

# Examples:

# 192.168.0.1 router.local

# 2001::81:1 test.local



so i guess it should work w/o any manual explicit configuration too.



Also check if you got libnss-mdns installed, which is recommended by avahi.



I am sorry i can not easily check how it works w/o manual configuration. I just can't remember any installation asked me anything about it so i guess the defaults should work out of the box.



I deinstalled any avahi services on all machines in this small intranet because we don't seem to have any need for it, and we didn't miss anything afterwards. For example, i don't understand why laptops need a avahi-daemon, or rather, why avahi-discover should be depending on the daemon. Do you really want to publish your laptop 'files to access' in a mixed environment ?




We have one printer and it seems network access via IPP works fine even without avahi. I guess a roaming laptop or smartphone could benefit in some trusted environment though. But seriously, in which business or university environment do you send off a printing job from your laptop without first being granted explicit access to the printer ?


I admit i am oldfashioned and do not understand any modern usages of multicast dns.



Well. in your situation, i would deinstall (with complete 'purge') anything with 'avahi' in its name, except it breaks essential other packages (for example, cups and gvfs need some avahi libs), especially the daemon. Then, i'd check if something i need does not work anymore. If so, reinstall avahi-discover. With luck, the error will be gone with a new package default config.




It should be noted that such a task needs some experience (or boldness) with 'apt-get' or a good package manager. It's rather easy, and safe, if you know how to use 'aptitude'. If you configured things manually, and want to preserve the config, don't use 'purge'. Keep in mind that even if you deinstalled half your system, it can be reinstalled in a few moments, if only you keep track of what was removed (for example, the /var/log/aptitude).






gl mi





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Old 06-26-2013, 09:53 AM
Hannu Virtanen
 
Default it is avahi? network

Hello,

"Sebastian Salvino":

here you'll get some more info:

------

# dig local. SOA

; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> local. SOA
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63972
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;local.** *** *** *** *IN** *SOA

;; ANSWER SECTION:
local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *SOA** *ns1.inet.fi. hostmaster.sonera.fi. 1 14400 7200 864000 14400

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *NS** *local.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *A** *127.0.0.1
local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *AAAA** *::1

;; Query time: 27 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Jun 26 12:21:37 2013
;; MSG SIZE* rcvd: 146



Where is the place I should change my .local into something else?

Into what???


---


"Michael":


Actually I don't know where I would need the whole avahi and why it has been installed... I don't remember, which package cased it to be installed.*

Do normal wlan networks work without that, too?*
----


here is # less /etc/avahi/hosts


# Examples:
# 192.168.0.1 router.local
# 2001::81:1 test.local


So there is nothing there.*

Maybe I should put there* gone.local???


---


here the status of libnss-mdns

# dpkg -l libnss-mdns
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name************ Version****** Architecture* Description
+++-================-=============-=============-=====================================
ii* libnss-mdns***** 0.10-3.2***** i386********* NSS module for Multicast DNS name res


-hv



P.S.


By the way I have installed some kind of debian on at least 15 machines and used debian* since "hamm". And never seen this avahi problem before. Normally they work out of the box, so I don't know much about the insides.


----


>________________________________
> From: Sebastian Salvino <sas@noend.com>
>To: Michael <codejodler@gmx.ch>
>Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:09 PM
>Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network
>
>
>
>Please email back the output of:
>dig local. SOA
>On Jun 25, 2013 3:05 PM, "Michael" <codejodler@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
>Hannu,
>>
>>The only things a fresh avahi-daemon installation puts into the config (that is, not commented) are:
>>
>>[server]
>>use-ipv4=yes
>>use-ipv6=yes
>>ratelimit-interval-usec=1000000
>>ratelimit-burst=1000
>>
>>[wide-area]
>>enable-wide-area=yes
>>
>>[publish]
>>
>>[reflector]
>>
>>[rlimits]
>>rlimit-core=0
>>rlimit-data=4194304
>>rlimit-fsize=0
>>rlimit-nofile=768
>>rlimit-stack=4194304
>>rlimit-nproc=3
>>
>>If there was a domain name default, it would be "domain-name=local" (but commented out), without dot. But it will be derived from your hostname anyway.
>>
>>So maybe try commenting (disabling) any domain setup. If any, it should be something like 'gone.local' if gone is your machine.
>>
>>Check the /etc/avahi/hosts file too. My version has commented examples, only:
>># Examples:
>># 192.168.0.1 router.local
>># 2001::81:1 test.local
>>
>>so i guess it should work w/o any manual explicit configuration too.
>>
>>Also check if you got libnss-mdns installed, which is recommended by avahi.
>>
>>I am sorry i can not easily check how it works w/o manual configuration. I just can't remember any installation asked me anything about it so i guess the defaults should work out of the box.
>>
>>I deinstalled any avahi services on all machines in this small intranet because we don't seem to have any need for it, and we didn't miss anything afterwards. For example, i don't understand why laptops need a avahi-daemon, or rather, why avahi-discover should be depending on the daemon. Do you really want to publish your laptop 'files to access' in a mixed environment ?
>>
>>We have one printer and it seems network access via IPP works fine even without avahi. I guess a roaming laptop or smartphone could benefit in some trusted environment though. But seriously, in which business or university environment do you send off a printing job from your laptop without first being granted explicit access to the printer ?
>>I admit i am oldfashioned and do not understand any modern usages of multicast dns.
>>
>>Well. in your situation, i would deinstall (with complete 'purge') anything with 'avahi' in its name, except it breaks essential other packages (for example, cups and gvfs need some avahi libs), especially the daemon. Then, i'd check if something i need does not work anymore. If so, reinstall avahi-discover. With luck, the error will be gone with a new package default config.
>>
>>It should be noted that such a task needs some experience (or boldness) with 'apt-get' or a good package manager. It's rather easy, and safe, if you know how to use 'aptitude'. If you configured things manually, and want to preserve the config, don't use 'purge'. Keep in mind that even if you deinstalled half your system, it can be reinstalled in a few moments, if only you keep track of what was removed (for example, the /var/log/aptitude).
>>
>>
>>gl mi
>>
>>
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:15 PM
Sebastian Salvino
 
Default it is avahi? network

Hi,

It looks like your ISP has their name servers set up to be authoritative for 'local' domain, that's the reason why the avahi-daemon is complaining about .local unicast domain and it might even refuse to start.


Configure your system to use dns forwarders that are not authoritative for 'local' such as* OpenDNS or Google public name servers and everything should be fine.

Hope it helps!



On Jun 26, 2013 6:53 AM, "Hannu Virtanen" <hannu_markus_virtanen@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello,



"Sebastian Salvino":



here you'll get some more info:



------



# dig local. SOA



; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> local. SOA

;; global options: +cmd

;; Got answer:

;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63972

;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 2



;; QUESTION SECTION:

;local.** *** *** *** *IN** *SOA



;; ANSWER SECTION:

local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *SOA** *ns1.inet.fi. hostmaster.sonera.fi. 1 14400 7200 864000 14400



;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *NS** *local.



;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:

local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *A** *127.0.0.1

local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *AAAA** *::1



;; Query time: 27 msec

;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)

;; WHEN: Wed Jun 26 12:21:37 2013

;; MSG SIZE* rcvd: 146







Where is the place I should change my .local into something else?



Into what???





---





"Michael":





Actually I don't know where I would need the whole avahi and why it has been installed... I don't remember, which package cased it to be installed.*



Do normal wlan networks work without that, too?*

----





here is # less /etc/avahi/hosts





# Examples:

# 192.168.0.1 router.local

# 2001::81:1 test.local





So there is nothing there.*



Maybe I should put there* gone.local???





---





here the status of libnss-mdns



# dpkg -l libnss-mdns

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold

| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend

|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)

||/ Name************ Version****** Architecture* Description

+++-================-=============-=============-=====================================

ii* libnss-mdns***** 0.10-3.2***** i386********* NSS module for Multicast DNS name res





-hv







P.S.





By the way I have installed some kind of debian on at least 15 machines and used debian* since "hamm". And never seen this avahi problem before. Normally they work out of the box, so I don't know much about the insides.






----





>________________________________

> From: Sebastian Salvino <sas@noend.com>

>To: Michael <codejodler@gmx.ch>

>Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org

>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:09 PM

>Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network

>

>

>

>Please email back the output of:

>dig local. SOA

>On Jun 25, 2013 3:05 PM, "Michael" <codejodler@gmx.ch> wrote:

>

>Hannu,

>>

>>The only things a fresh avahi-daemon installation puts into the config (that is, not commented) are:

>>

>>[server]

>>use-ipv4=yes

>>use-ipv6=yes

>>ratelimit-interval-usec=1000000

>>ratelimit-burst=1000

>>

>>[wide-area]

>>enable-wide-area=yes

>>

>>[publish]

>>

>>[reflector]

>>

>>[rlimits]

>>rlimit-core=0

>>rlimit-data="">
>>rlimit-fsize=0

>>rlimit-nofile=768

>>rlimit-stack=4194304

>>rlimit-nproc=3

>>

>>If there was a domain name default, it would be "domain-name=local" (but commented out), without dot. But it will be derived from your hostname anyway.

>>

>>So maybe try commenting (disabling) any domain setup. If any, it should be something like 'gone.local' if gone is your machine.

>>

>>Check the /etc/avahi/hosts file too. My version has commented examples, only:

>># Examples:

>># 192.168.0.1 router.local

>># 2001::81:1 test.local

>>

>>so i guess it should work w/o any manual explicit configuration too.

>>

>>Also check if you got libnss-mdns installed, which is recommended by avahi.

>>

>>I am sorry i can not easily check how it works w/o manual configuration. I just can't remember any installation asked me anything about it so i guess the defaults should work out of the box.

>>

>>I deinstalled any avahi services on all machines in this small intranet because we don't seem to have any need for it, and we didn't miss anything afterwards. For example, i don't understand why laptops need a avahi-daemon, or rather, why avahi-discover should be depending on the daemon. Do you really want to publish your laptop 'files to access' in a mixed environment ?


>>

>>We have one printer and it seems network access via IPP works fine even without avahi. I guess a roaming laptop or smartphone could benefit in some trusted environment though. But seriously, in which business or university environment do you send off a printing job from your laptop without first being granted explicit access to the printer ?


>>I admit i am oldfashioned and do not understand any modern usages of multicast dns.

>>

>>Well. in your situation, i would deinstall (with complete 'purge') anything with 'avahi' in its name, except it breaks essential other packages (for example, cups and gvfs need some avahi libs), especially the daemon. Then, i'd check if something i need does not work anymore. If so, reinstall avahi-discover. With luck, the error will be gone with a new package default config.


>>

>>It should be noted that such a task needs some experience (or boldness) with 'apt-get' or a good package manager. It's rather easy, and safe, if you know how to use 'aptitude'. If you configured things manually, and want to preserve the config, don't use 'purge'. Keep in mind that even if you deinstalled half your system, it can be reinstalled in a few moments, if only you keep track of what was removed (for example, the /var/log/aptitude).


>>

>>

>>gl mi

>>

>>

>>--

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>>with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org

>>Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130625200440.0d571afa@mirrors.kernel.org

>>

>>

>

>
 
Old 06-26-2013, 01:44 PM
Hannu Virtanen
 
Default it is avahi? network

ahaa.

Now it seems that Sebastian Salvino found the problem.

---
Sebastian Salvino wrote:


"Configure your system to use dns forwarders that are not authoritative
for 'local' such as* OpenDNS or Google public name servers and
everything should be fine."
---

How to do that configuring?


Please tell me, which tools to use, or if I can write something directly into some (which?) files


-hv


>________________________________
> From: Sebastian Salvino <sas@noend.com>
>To: Hannu Virtanen <hannu_markus_virtanen@yahoo.com>
>Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org; Michael <codejodler@gmx.ch>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:15 PM
>Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network
>
>
>
>Hi,
>It looks like your ISP has their name servers set up to be authoritative for 'local' domain, that's the reason why the avahi-daemon is complaining about .local unicast domain and it might even refuse to start.
>Configure your system to use dns forwarders that are not authoritative for 'local' such as* OpenDNS or Google public name servers and everything should be fine.
>Hope it helps!
>
>On Jun 26, 2013 6:53 AM, "Hannu Virtanen" <hannu_markus_virtanen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hello,
>>
>>"Sebastian Salvino":
>>
>>here you'll get some more info:
>>
>>------
>>
>># dig local. SOA
>>
>>; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> local. SOA
>>;; global options: +cmd
>>;; Got answer:
>>;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63972
>>;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 2
>>
>>;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>;local.** *** *** *** *IN** *SOA
>>
>>;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *SOA** *ns1.inet.fi. hostmaster.sonera.fi. 1 14400 7200 864000 14400
>>
>>;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>>local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *NS** *local.
>>
>>;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
>>local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *A** *127.0.0.1
>>local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *AAAA** *::1
>>
>>;; Query time: 27 msec
>>;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
>>;; WHEN: Wed Jun 26 12:21:37 2013
>>;; MSG SIZE* rcvd: 146
>>
>>
>>
>>Where is the place I should change my .local into something else?
>>
>>Into what???
>>
>>
>>---
>>
>>
>>"Michael":
>>
>>
>>Actually I don't know where I would need the whole avahi and why it has been installed... I don't remember, which package cased it to be installed.*
>>
>>Do normal wlan networks work without that, too?*
>>----
>>
>>
>>here is # less /etc/avahi/hosts
>>
>>
>># Examples:
>># 192.168.0.1 router.local
>># 2001::81:1 test.local
>>
>>
>>So there is nothing there.*
>>
>>Maybe I should put there* gone.local???
>>
>>
>>---
>>
>>
>>here the status of libnss-mdns
>>
>># dpkg -l libnss-mdns
>>Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
>>| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
>>|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
>>||/ Name************ Version****** Architecture* Description
>>+++-================-=============-=============-=====================================
>>ii* libnss-mdns***** 0.10-3.2***** i386********* NSS module for Multicast DNS name res
>>
>>
>>-hv
>>
>>
>>
>>P.S.
>>
>>
>>By the way I have installed some kind of debian on at least 15 machines and used debian* since "hamm". And never seen this avahi problem before. Normally they work out of the box, so I don't know much about the insides.
>>
>>
>>----
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Sebastian Salvino <sas@noend.com>
>>>To: Michael <codejodler@gmx.ch>
>>>Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:09 PM
>>>Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Please email back the output of:
>>>dig local. SOA
>>>On Jun 25, 2013 3:05 PM, "Michael" <codejodler@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hannu,
>>>>
>>>>The only things a fresh avahi-daemon installation puts into the config (that is, not commented) are:
>>>>
>>>>[server]
>>>>use-ipv4=yes
>>>>use-ipv6=yes
>>>>ratelimit-interval-usec=1000000
>>>>ratelimit-burst=1000
>>>>
>>>>[wide-area]
>>>>enable-wide-area=yes
>>>>
>>>>[publish]
>>>>
>>>>[reflector]
>>>>
>>>>[rlimits]
>>>>rlimit-core=0
>>>>rlimit-data=4194304
>>>>rlimit-fsize=0
>>>>rlimit-nofile=768
>>>>rlimit-stack=4194304
>>>>rlimit-nproc=3
>>>>
>>>>If there was a domain name default, it would be "domain-name=local" (but commented out), without dot. But it will be derived from your hostname anyway.
>>>>
>>>>So maybe try commenting (disabling) any domain setup. If any, it should be something like 'gone.local' if gone is your machine.
>>>>
>>>>Check the /etc/avahi/hosts file too. My version has commented examples, only:
>>>># Examples:
>>>># 192.168.0.1 router.local
>>>># 2001::81:1 test.local
>>>>
>>>>so i guess it should work w/o any manual explicit configuration too.
>>>>
>>>>Also check if you got libnss-mdns installed, which is recommended by avahi.
>>>>
>>>>I am sorry i can not easily check how it works w/o manual configuration. I just can't remember any installation asked me anything about it so i guess the defaults should work out of the box.
>>>>
>>>>I deinstalled any avahi services on all machines in this small intranet because we don't seem to have any need for it, and we didn't miss anything afterwards. For example, i don't understand why laptops need a avahi-daemon, or rather, why avahi-discover should be depending on the daemon. Do you really want to publish your laptop 'files to access' in a mixed environment ?
>>>>
>>>>We have one printer and it seems network access via IPP works fine even without avahi. I guess a roaming laptop or smartphone could benefit in some trusted environment though. But seriously, in which business or university environment do you send off a printing job from your laptop without first being granted explicit access to the printer ?
>>>>I admit i am oldfashioned and do not understand any modern usages of multicast dns.
>>>>
>>>>Well. in your situation, i would deinstall (with complete 'purge') anything with 'avahi' in its name, except it breaks essential other packages (for example, cups and gvfs need some avahi libs), especially the daemon. Then, i'd check if something i need does not work anymore. If so, reinstall avahi-discover. With luck, the error will be gone with a new package default config.
>>>>
>>>>It should be noted that such a task needs some experience (or boldness) with 'apt-get' or a good package manager. It's rather easy, and safe, if you know how to use 'aptitude'. If you configured things manually, and want to preserve the config, don't use 'purge'. Keep in mind that even if you deinstalled half your system, it can be reinstalled in a few moments, if only you keep track of what was removed (for example, the /var/log/aptitude).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>gl mi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
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>>>>with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
>>>>Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130625200440.0d571afa@mirrors.kernel.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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Old 06-26-2013, 01:59 PM
Sebastian Salvino
 
Default it is avahi? network

if you are using a router, reconfigure it to override the name servers assigned by your isp and use opendns, goggle public dns out any other of your choice.

if you not using any router, setup your laptop to use the above fixed name servers, either by resolv.conf or interfaces.

On Jun 26, 2013 10:44 AM, "Hannu Virtanen" <hannu_markus_virtanen@yahoo.com> wrote:
ahaa.



Now it seems that Sebastian Salvino found the problem.



---

Sebastian Salvino wrote:





"Configure your system to use dns forwarders that are not authoritative

for 'local' such as* OpenDNS or Google public name servers and

everything should be fine."

---



How to do that configuring?





Please tell me, which tools to use, or if I can write something directly into some (which?) files





-hv





>________________________________

> From: Sebastian Salvino <sas@noend.com>

>To: Hannu Virtanen <hannu_markus_virtanen@yahoo.com>

>Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org; Michael <codejodler@gmx.ch>

>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:15 PM

>Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network

>

>

>

>Hi,

>It looks like your ISP has their name servers set up to be authoritative for 'local' domain, that's the reason why the avahi-daemon is complaining about .local unicast domain and it might even refuse to start.


>Configure your system to use dns forwarders that are not authoritative for 'local' such as* OpenDNS or Google public name servers and everything should be fine.

>Hope it helps!

>

>On Jun 26, 2013 6:53 AM, "Hannu Virtanen" <hannu_markus_virtanen@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>Hello,

>>

>>"Sebastian Salvino":

>>

>>here you'll get some more info:

>>

>>------

>>

>># dig local. SOA

>>

>>; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> local. SOA

>>;; global options: +cmd

>>;; Got answer:

>>;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63972

>>;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 2

>>

>>;; QUESTION SECTION:

>>;local.** *** *** *** *IN** *SOA

>>

>>;; ANSWER SECTION:

>>local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *SOA** *ns1.inet.fi. hostmaster.sonera.fi. 1 14400 7200 864000 14400

>>

>>;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

>>local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *NS** *local.

>>

>>;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:

>>local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *A** *127.0.0.1

>>local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *AAAA** *::1

>>

>>;; Query time: 27 msec

>>;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)

>>;; WHEN: Wed Jun 26 12:21:37 2013

>>;; MSG SIZE* rcvd: 146

>>

>>

>>

>>Where is the place I should change my .local into something else?

>>

>>Into what???

>>

>>

>>---

>>

>>

>>"Michael":

>>

>>

>>Actually I don't know where I would need the whole avahi and why it has been installed... I don't remember, which package cased it to be installed.*

>>

>>Do normal wlan networks work without that, too?*

>>----

>>

>>

>>here is # less /etc/avahi/hosts

>>

>>

>># Examples:

>># 192.168.0.1 router.local

>># 2001::81:1 test.local

>>

>>

>>So there is nothing there.*

>>

>>Maybe I should put there* gone.local???

>>

>>

>>---

>>

>>

>>here the status of libnss-mdns

>>

>># dpkg -l libnss-mdns

>>Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold

>>| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend

>>|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)

>>||/ Name************ Version****** Architecture* Description

>>+++-================-=============-=============-=====================================

>>ii* libnss-mdns***** 0.10-3.2***** i386********* NSS module for Multicast DNS name res

>>

>>

>>-hv

>>

>>

>>

>>P.S.

>>

>>

>>By the way I have installed some kind of debian on at least 15 machines and used debian* since "hamm". And never seen this avahi problem before. Normally they work out of the box, so I don't know much about the insides.


>>

>>

>>----

>>

>>

>>>________________________________

>>> From: Sebastian Salvino <sas@noend.com>

>>>To: Michael <codejodler@gmx.ch>

>>>Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org

>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:09 PM

>>>Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Please email back the output of:

>>>dig local. SOA

>>>On Jun 25, 2013 3:05 PM, "Michael" <codejodler@gmx.ch> wrote:

>>>

>>>Hannu,

>>>>

>>>>The only things a fresh avahi-daemon installation puts into the config (that is, not commented) are:

>>>>

>>>>[server]

>>>>use-ipv4=yes

>>>>use-ipv6=yes

>>>>ratelimit-interval-usec=1000000

>>>>ratelimit-burst=1000

>>>>

>>>>[wide-area]

>>>>enable-wide-area=yes

>>>>

>>>>[publish]

>>>>

>>>>[reflector]

>>>>

>>>>[rlimits]

>>>>rlimit-core=0

>>>>rlimit-data="">
>>>>rlimit-fsize=0

>>>>rlimit-nofile=768

>>>>rlimit-stack=4194304

>>>>rlimit-nproc=3

>>>>

>>>>If there was a domain name default, it would be "domain-name=local" (but commented out), without dot. But it will be derived from your hostname anyway.

>>>>

>>>>So maybe try commenting (disabling) any domain setup. If any, it should be something like 'gone.local' if gone is your machine.

>>>>

>>>>Check the /etc/avahi/hosts file too. My version has commented examples, only:

>>>># Examples:

>>>># 192.168.0.1 router.local

>>>># 2001::81:1 test.local

>>>>

>>>>so i guess it should work w/o any manual explicit configuration too.

>>>>

>>>>Also check if you got libnss-mdns installed, which is recommended by avahi.

>>>>

>>>>I am sorry i can not easily check how it works w/o manual configuration. I just can't remember any installation asked me anything about it so i guess the defaults should work out of the box.

>>>>

>>>>I deinstalled any avahi services on all machines in this small intranet because we don't seem to have any need for it, and we didn't miss anything afterwards. For example, i don't understand why laptops need a avahi-daemon, or rather, why avahi-discover should be depending on the daemon. Do you really want to publish your laptop 'files to access' in a mixed environment ?


>>>>

>>>>We have one printer and it seems network access via IPP works fine even without avahi. I guess a roaming laptop or smartphone could benefit in some trusted environment though. But seriously, in which business or university environment do you send off a printing job from your laptop without first being granted explicit access to the printer ?


>>>>I admit i am oldfashioned and do not understand any modern usages of multicast dns.

>>>>

>>>>Well. in your situation, i would deinstall (with complete 'purge') anything with 'avahi' in its name, except it breaks essential other packages (for example, cups and gvfs need some avahi libs), especially the daemon. Then, i'd check if something i need does not work anymore. If so, reinstall avahi-discover. With luck, the error will be gone with a new package default config.


>>>>

>>>>It should be noted that such a task needs some experience (or boldness) with 'apt-get' or a good package manager. It's rather easy, and safe, if you know how to use 'aptitude'. If you configured things manually, and want to preserve the config, don't use 'purge'. Keep in mind that even if you deinstalled half your system, it can be reinstalled in a few moments, if only you keep track of what was removed (for example, the /var/log/aptitude).


>>>>

>>>>

>>>>gl mi

>>>>

>>>>

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>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>
 
Old 06-26-2013, 04:11 PM
Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn
 
Default it is avahi? network

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, Sebastian Salvino wrote:
>
> if you are using a router, reconfigure it to override the name servers
> assigned by your isp and use opendns, goggle public dns out any other of
> your choice.
>
> if you not using any router, setup your laptop to use the above fixed name
> servers, either by resolv.conf or interfaces.
> On Jun 26, 2013 10:44 AM, "Hannu Virtanen" <hannu_markus_virtanen@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ahaa.
> >
> > Now it seems that Sebastian Salvino found the problem.

That looks like someone is attempting to eavesdrop on you. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eavesdropping

Who can it be? Is it your ISP or someone else?


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Old 06-27-2013, 06:03 PM
Michael
 
Default it is avahi? network

Cristian,

> That looks like someone is attempting to eavesdrop on you.

I would be interested in how that could work and how to defend against it. Would you mind to try to explain it, for short ... ?

Here are my questions:

(1) If i understand correctly, the 'dig' result shows that domain 'local' is directed to either *"ns1.inet.fi" or "hostmaster.sonera.fi" correct ? How would a SOA answer section look like for a non-grabbed domain, in a regular dig result ?

(2) As far as i know the regular setup only has 'localhost' for loopback, i don't know anyone using 'local', except, as it appears, avahi. So would this redirect (or rather, grabbed domain) take effect only for the avahi system, in a default installation ?

(3) I don't think that Hannu's situation necessarily indicates anything criminal like eavesdropping. But anyway, if so, then what use could you imagine to 'eavesdrop' especially avahi communications ?


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Old 06-27-2013, 06:59 PM
Hannu Virtanen
 
Default it is avahi? network

I quite much agree with Michael.



I don't see anything like eavesdropping with this situation.


Cristian, what do you mean?

-hv





----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael <codejodler@gmx.ch>

> Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network
>
> Cristian,
>
>> That looks like someone is attempting to eavesdrop on you.
>
> I would be interested in how that could work and how to defend against it. Would
> you mind to try to explain it, for short ... ?
>
> Here are my questions:
>
> (1) If i understand correctly, the 'dig' result shows that domain
> 'local' is directed to either *"ns1.inet.fi" or
> "hostmaster.sonera.fi" correct ? How would a SOA answer section look
> like for a non-grabbed domain, in a regular dig result ?
>
> (2) As far as i know the regular setup only has 'localhost' for
> loopback, i don't know anyone using 'local', except, as it appears,
> avahi. So would this redirect (or rather, grabbed domain) take effect only for
> the avahi system, in a default installation ?
>
> (3) I don't think that Hannu's situation necessarily indicates anything
> criminal like eavesdropping. But anyway, if so, then what use could you imagine
> to 'eavesdrop' especially avahi communications ?
>
>
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:06 PM
Hannu Virtanen
 
Default it is avahi? network

I've started thinking that it would be easiest to drop the whole avahi out.
I don't need it for anything.

But I've realized that it has been gnome, which has been dependent on it.
I've installed gnome, but I'm really seldom using it. I'm normally using lxde.

Just now I'm using gnome, just trying it, but my feeling with it is not good.


-hv




> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Michael <codejodler@gmx.ch>
>
>> Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network
>>
>> Cristian,
>>
>>> * That looks like someone is attempting to eavesdrop on you.
>>
>> I would be interested in how that could work and how to defend against it.
> Would
>> you mind to try to explain it, for short ... ?
>>
>> Here are my questions:
>>
>> (1) If i understand correctly, the 'dig' result shows that domain
>> 'local' is directed to either *"ns1.inet.fi" or
>> "hostmaster.sonera.fi" correct ? How would a SOA answer section
> look
>> like for a non-grabbed domain, in a regular dig result ?
>>
>> (2) As far as i know the regular setup only has 'localhost' for
>> loopback, i don't know anyone using 'local', except, as it
> appears,
>> avahi. So would this redirect (or rather, grabbed domain) take effect only
> for
>> the avahi system, in a default installation ?
>>
>> (3) I don't think that Hannu's situation necessarily indicates
> anything
>> criminal like eavesdropping. But anyway, if so, then what use could you
> imagine
>> to 'eavesdrop' especially avahi communications ?

>


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Old 06-30-2013, 08:05 PM
Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn
 
Default it is avahi? network

On Thu, 27 Jun 2013, Michael wrote:
>
> > That looks like someone is attempting to eavesdrop on you.
>
> I would be interested in how that could work and how to defend against
> it. Would you mind to try to explain it, for short ... ?

I'm not an expert, but let me put it this way: what would be the customer
benefit of an ISP doing this?

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, Hannu Virtanen wrote:
|
| ;; ANSWER SECTION:
| local.** *** *** *14400** *IN** *SOA** *ns1.inet.fi. hostmaster.sonera.fi. 114400 7200 864000 14400

Anyone?


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