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Old 07-02-2010, 10:17 PM
Gerard Robin
 
Default kernel problems in sid

Hello,
currently I use the kernels 2.6.26-2-amd64 (from lenny) or the kernel 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64
on my laptop acer aspire wlmi 5102 but on sid now is only the kernel

2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) and on experimental, there is the kernel 2.6.34-1-amd64.

With the kernel 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 all works almost fine but the package
linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 doesn't exist and so I tried the kernel
2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) but with this kernel many things doesn't work

well:
vlc displays the image in black an white and is reduced to a quarter
horizontally.
cheese doesn't work well.

cdcd works but I can't hear the sound.
hibernation freezes my box
....

I tried the kernel 2.6.34-1-amd64 (experimental)
With this kernel vlc and cheese work fine but cdcd doesn't and
hibernation freezes my box too.

Does anybody know why the kernel 2.6.32 produces all these problems?
Am I alone in this case?

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Grard
 
Old 07-02-2010, 10:42 PM
Bogdan
 
Default kernel problems in sid

Hi,

I've been using 2.6.32-5-amd64 (on squeeze) for a while, and haven't seen any problems with VLC (the only program from your list I'm using). Generally I find 2.6.32-5-amd64 stable enough to soon remove 2.6.32-3-amd64.

I may try hibernation, but I haven't used it before - so that won't mean much.

> With the kernel 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 all works almost fine but the package
> linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 doesn't exist and so I tried the kernel
> 2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) but with this kernel many things doesn't work
> well:
> vlc displays the image in black an white and is reduced to a quarter horizontally.
> Am I alone in this case?



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Old 07-04-2010, 09:11 PM
Johan Grnqvist
 
Default kernel problems in sid

2010-07-03 00:17, Gerard Robin skrev:

With the kernel 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 all works almost fine but the package
linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 doesn't exist and so I tried the kernel
2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) but with this kernel many things doesn't work
well:
vlc displays the image in black an white and is reduced to a quarter
horizontally. cheese doesn't work well.
cdcd works but I can't hear the sound.
hibernation freezes my box
....

I tried the kernel 2.6.34-1-amd64 (experimental)
With this kernel vlc and cheese work fine but cdcd doesn't and
hibernation freezes my box too.




Does anybody know why the kernel 2.6.32 produces all these problems?
Am I alone in this case?



Just guesses really, so don't blame me if it makes things worse, but
problems I have had with recent kernels have been related to KMS
<http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting> (strange X-behaviour and
suspend freezes) and to using outdated initramfs-tools package
(hibernation freezes), but I use squeeze instead of lenny, so I can not
claim to have the same problems as you have.


If disabling KMS, and running update-initramfs with initramfs-tools (and
possibly other packages) matching the kernel (e.g., all from unstable)
do not help, then I have no further ideas.



Hope it helps.

Johan


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Old 07-04-2010, 09:49 PM
Dirk Linnerkamp
 
Default kernel problems in sid

Hi Gerard,

Am Samstag, den 03.07.2010, 00:17 +0200 schrieb Gerard Robin:
> Hello,
> currently I use the kernels 2.6.26-2-amd64 (from lenny) or the kernel 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64
> on my laptop acer aspire wlmi 5102 but on sid now is only the kernel
> 2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) and on experimental, there is the kernel 2.6.34-1-amd64
> With the kernel 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 all works almost fine but the package
> linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 doesn't exist and so I tried the kernel
> 2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) but with this kernel many things doesn't work
> well:

If all works fine with the backport-kernel on your lenny system why want
you use a squeeze kernel?
And what do mean by currently running a 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64-kernel but
that no linux-image of this kernel exists? If you run this kernel there
must be a linux-image of it.


> vlc displays the image in black an white and is reduced to a quarter
> horizontally.
> cheese doesn't work well.
> cdcd works but I can't hear the sound.
> hibernation freezes my box
> ....
>
> I tried the kernel 2.6.34-1-amd64 (experimental)
> With this kernel vlc and cheese work fine but cdcd doesn't and
> hibernation freezes my box too.
>
> Does anybody know why the kernel 2.6.32 produces all these problems?
> Am I alone in this case?


....the problem might be because you use the lenny versions of the
software (vlc player cheese etc) together with a squeeze (sid) kernel.
If you want stick to the 2.6.32 kernel try the vlc, cheese, acpi etc
packages from the squeeze repo instead of the lenny repo.

Greetings Dirk



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Old 07-05-2010, 12:16 AM
Gerard Robin
 
Default kernel problems in sid

On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 11:49:47PM +0200, Dirk Linnerkamp wrote:

Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 23:49:47 +0200
From: Dirk Linnerkamp <dirk_linnerkamp@vodafone.de>
To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: kernel problems in sid

Hi Gerard,

Am Samstag, den 03.07.2010, 00:17 +0200 schrieb Gerard Robin:

Hello,
currently I use the kernels 2.6.26-2-amd64 (from lenny) or the kernel 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64
on my laptop acer aspire wlmi 5102 but on sid now is only the kernel
2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) and on experimental, there is the kernel 2.6.34-1-amd64
With the kernel 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 all works almost fine but the package
linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 doesn't exist and so I tried the kernel
2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) but with this kernel many things doesn't work
well:

If all works fine with the backport-kernel on your lenny system why want
you use a squeeze kernel?
And what do mean by currently running a 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64-kernel but
that no linux-image of this kernel exists? If you run this kernel there
must be a linux-image of it.


Sorry if my message isn't clear, but I use sid.
Yes there was a linux-image of 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 but now in sid

there'is only the package linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) which
does not properly handle my video card:
ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M]




vlc displays the image in black an white and is reduced to a quarter
horizontally.
cheese doesn't work well.
cdcd works but I can't hear the sound.
hibernation freezes my box
....

I tried the kernel 2.6.34-1-amd64 (experimental)
With this kernel vlc and cheese work fine but cdcd doesn't and
hibernation freezes my box too.

Does anybody know why the kernel 2.6.32 produces all these problems?
Am I alone in this case?



....the problem might be because you use the lenny versions of the
software (vlc player cheese etc) together with a squeeze (sid) kernel.
If you want stick to the 2.6.32 kernel try the vlc, cheese, acpi etc
packages from the squeeze repo instead of the lenny repo.


As I mentioned earlier, I use sid, and all my dependencies are correct.
The module gspca is loaded (I need it for cheese and linphone too).

What surprises me is that the experimental package linux-image-2.6.34 correctly
handles my video card and not the 2.6.32 ?
vlc, cheese ... work fine with the kernel 2.6.34.


Thank you to all those who helped me.

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