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Old 06-20-2011, 05:16 AM
Ola Lundqvist
 
Default Possibility of getting openvz problem included in stable?

Hi Maximilian

The upstream have solved a kernel crash issue. See
http://bugzilla.openvz.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1866

Do you think it would be possible to get 042stab017 stable?

I think it is rather important thing to solve.

Do you want me to report this as a Debian bug report as well
or is it enough to refer to the openvz bug?

Best regards,

// Ola

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Old 06-20-2011, 10:23 AM
maximilian attems
 
Default Possibility of getting openvz problem included in stable?

Hi ola,

my patience for openvz is currently gone from epsilon to zero.

see
http://git.openvz.org/?p=linux-2.6.32-openvz;a=summary

and in contrary
http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel4/023stab054.1

They *don't* update their git tree.
come on 2.6.32.28 is very old stable compared to 2.6.32.41

So if you might get them to push their RH fixes and updated
stable trees to their git 2.6.32, the situation might be different.

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Old 06-20-2011, 11:46 AM
"Ola Lundqvist"
 
Default Possibility of getting openvz problem included in stable?

Hi Maks and Kir

Maks: See below.

Kir: Can you see if the openvz team can help out with what is described below.

Quoting "maximilian attems" <max@stro.at>:

Hi ola,

my patience for openvz is currently gone from epsilon to zero.

see
http://git.openvz.org/?p=linux-2.6.32-openvz;a=summary

and in contrary
http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel4/023stab054.1

They *don't* update their git tree.
come on 2.6.32.28 is very old stable compared to 2.6.32.41

So if you might get them to push their RH fixes and updated
stable trees to their git 2.6.32, the situation might be different.


Ok.

// Ola


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Old 06-20-2011, 12:40 PM
maximilian attems
 
Default Possibility of getting openvz problem included in stable?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:23:01AM +0000, maximilian attems wrote:
> Hi ola,
>
> my patience for openvz is currently gone from epsilon to zero.
>
> see
> http://git.openvz.org/?p=linux-2.6.32-openvz;a=summary
>
> and in contrary
> http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel4/023stab054.1

wrong c&p, meant of course,
see how happily that tree is maintained regularly:
http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel6/042stab017.1

> They *don't* update their git tree.
> come on 2.6.32.28 is very old stable compared to 2.6.32.41
>
> So if you might get them to push their RH fixes and updated
> stable trees to their git 2.6.32, the situation might be different.
>


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Old 06-20-2011, 12:40 PM
maximilian attems
 
Default Possibility of getting openvz problem included in stable?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:23:01AM +0000, maximilian attems wrote:
> Hi ola,
>
> my patience for openvz is currently gone from epsilon to zero.
>
> see
> http://git.openvz.org/?p=linux-2.6.32-openvz;a=summary
>
> and in contrary
> http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel4/023stab054.1

wrong c&p, meant of course,
see how happily that tree is maintained regularly:
http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel6/042stab017.1

> They *don't* update their git tree.
> come on 2.6.32.28 is very old stable compared to 2.6.32.41
>
> So if you might get them to push their RH fixes and updated
> stable trees to their git 2.6.32, the situation might be different.
>


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Old 06-20-2011, 01:00 PM
"Ola Lundqvist"
 
Default Possibility of getting openvz problem included in stable?

Hi Maks and Kir

Kir: Some updated statement from Maks.

Maks: I think one reason for not updating is that the version in
Debian stable is usually not updated. So it is hard to tell what
revision the Debian kernel team is regarding stable updates.


// Ola

Quoting "maximilian attems" <max@stro.at>:

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:23:01AM +0000, maximilian attems wrote:

Hi ola,

my patience for openvz is currently gone from epsilon to zero.

see
http://git.openvz.org/?p=linux-2.6.32-openvz;a=summary

and in contrary
http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel4/023stab054.1


wrong c&p, meant of course,
see how happily that tree is maintained regularly:
http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel6/042stab017.1


They *don't* update their git tree.
come on 2.6.32.28 is very old stable compared to 2.6.32.41

So if you might get them to push their RH fixes and updated
stable trees to their git 2.6.32, the situation might be different.









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Old 06-20-2011, 01:00 PM
"Ola Lundqvist"
 
Default Possibility of getting openvz problem included in stable?

Hi Maks and Kir

Kir: Some updated statement from Maks.

Maks: I think one reason for not updating is that the version in
Debian stable is usually not updated. So it is hard to tell what
revision the Debian kernel team is regarding stable updates.


// Ola

Quoting "maximilian attems" <max@stro.at>:

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:23:01AM +0000, maximilian attems wrote:

Hi ola,

my patience for openvz is currently gone from epsilon to zero.

see
http://git.openvz.org/?p=linux-2.6.32-openvz;a=summary

and in contrary
http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel4/023stab054.1


wrong c&p, meant of course,
see how happily that tree is maintained regularly:
http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel6/042stab017.1


They *don't* update their git tree.
come on 2.6.32.28 is very old stable compared to 2.6.32.41

So if you might get them to push their RH fixes and updated
stable trees to their git 2.6.32, the situation might be different.









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Old 06-20-2011, 01:24 PM
maximilian attems
 
Default Possibility of getting openvz problem included in stable?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 03:00:57PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> Hi Maks and Kir
>
> Kir: Some updated statement from Maks.
>
> Maks: I think one reason for not updating is that the version in
> Debian stable is usually not updated. So it is hard to tell what
> revision the Debian kernel team is regarding stable updates.
>
> // Ola

that is totally uncorrect.

we have pretty much allways synced with available openvz git.
(see 2.6.26 history and 2.6.32 history)
uploads are not immediate as we have a different schedule.

also please next time do at least the *effort* of asking the openvz
guys instead of just forwarding my rants on stupid questions. a little
effort from your side would really be appreciated.

thanks

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PS. also you didn't cc the debian openvz mailinglist nor pavel.


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Old 06-20-2011, 01:37 PM
Ben Hutchings
 
Default Possibility of getting openvz problem included in stable?

On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 15:00 +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> Hi Maks and Kir
>
> Kir: Some updated statement from Maks.
>
> Maks: I think one reason for not updating is that the version in
> Debian stable is usually not updated. So it is hard to tell what
> revision the Debian kernel team is regarding stable updates.
[...]

It is very easy: you look at the changelog.

If you don't want to get the whole package then see:
<http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/kernel/dists/squeeze/linux-2.6/debian/changelog?revision=HEAD&view=markup>

Ben.

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Old 06-20-2011, 02:42 PM
"Ola Lundqvist"
 
Default Possibility of getting openvz problem included in stable?

Hi Ben

Sorry. My mistake. I looked only at the stable release, not the
stable-security release. If I look into the correct one, yes then it
is quite obvious.


However I have one additional question as I do not know the process
you work with in the kernel team fully. When you update to a newer
version of the kernel package, how do you handle openvz in that case?
I assume you use the same kernel patch as before, but how do that
differ from this case. Or do you mean that the one I referred to was
to some other track than the openvz track? In that case, I'm sorry, I
did not understand that.


Best regards,

/ /Ola

Quoting "Ben Hutchings" <ben@decadent.org.uk>:

On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 15:00 +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:

Hi Maks and Kir

Kir: Some updated statement from Maks.

Maks: I think one reason for not updating is that the version in
Debian stable is usually not updated. So it is hard to tell what
revision the Debian kernel team is regarding stable updates.

[...]

It is very easy: you look at the changelog.

If you don't want to get the whole package then see:
<http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/kernel/dists/squeeze/linux-2.6/debian/changelog?revision=HEAD&view=markup>

Ben.

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