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Old 03-09-2010, 06:15 PM
Ben Hutchings
 
Default Bug#573189: linux-image-2.6.33-2-686: aufs does not work in 2.6.33

On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 06:09:07PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> Package: linux-image-2.6.33-2-686
> Version: 2.6.33-1~experimental.2
> Severity: normal
>
>
> In 2.3.33 aufs does not work and it is not mentioned in the config file,
> not even as disabled.
>
> This means debian-live cannot boot from 2.6.33.
>
> This is a regression since 2.6.32 which included in-kernel aufs.

aufs is a dirty hack and we will not support it beyond squeeze. Valerie
Aurora is working on union mounts which should go upstream in time for
squeeze+1.

Ben.

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Old 03-10-2010, 01:12 PM
Daniel Baumann
 
Default Bug#573189: linux-image-2.6.33-2-686: aufs does not work in 2.6.33

severity 573189 important
thanks

Hi,

as we discussed last time, unionfs-fuse is not acceptable.

until unionmount is available in upstream, the debian kernels need to
have aufs2.


either, the kernel team is going to keep applying the aufs2 patches for
the kernel >=2.6.32, or, we need aufs oot modules back in the archive.


If your intention is to no longer include aufs2 within the debian kernel
images itself (which i'm quite surpised, because it was clearly said
when linux-modules-extra-2.6 were dropped, that aufs will be included in
the kernel until unionmount is available, however, you should clearly
communicate that to us as you know we hare heavily depending on it, and
not just wait until we find out), please state so *now*, so that we can
bring aufs oot modules back into the archive.


this is quite upsetting.

Regards,
Daniel

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Old 03-11-2010, 01:26 AM
Ben Hutchings
 
Default Bug#573189: linux-image-2.6.33-2-686: aufs does not work in 2.6.33

On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 15:12 +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> severity 573189 important
> thanks
>
> Hi,
>
> as we discussed last time, unionfs-fuse is not acceptable.
>
> until unionmount is available in upstream, the debian kernels need to
> have aufs2.
>
> either, the kernel team is going to keep applying the aufs2 patches for
> the kernel >=2.6.32, or, we need aufs oot modules back in the archive.
>
> If your intention is to no longer include aufs2 within the debian kernel
> images itself (which i'm quite surpised, because it was clearly said
> when linux-modules-extra-2.6 were dropped, that aufs will be included in
> the kernel until unionmount is available,

I don't believe anyone made such a promise. However, if you are going
to continue making interim snapshots of Debian Live and if aufs2 is
going to be updated to work with upstream kernel releases then we can
continue including it for a while. Please do whatever you can to aid in
development of union mounts as a replacement.

[...]
> this is quite upsetting.

Sorry about that.

Ben.

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Old 06-09-2010, 03:59 PM
Daniel Baumann
 
Default Bug#573189: linux-image-2.6.33-2-686: aufs does not work in 2.6.33

unarchive 573189
reopen 573189
found 553472 2.6.34-1~experimental.2
thanks

...and the story of being ignored apparently continues

---snip---
r15628 | maks | 2010-05-05 23:44:47 +0200 (Wed, 05 May 2010) | 4 lines

sync to 2.6.34-rc6

disabled arm feature patches, nuked merged stuff, disabled aufs,
fixed orig generation.
---snap---

why can't you guys not a) communicate when you disable things other
people relay on and, b) write better commit messages (e.g. in case the
disabling was just temporary, so that we don't need to constantly worry)?

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Daniel

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Old 06-09-2010, 10:18 PM
Ben Hutchings
 
Default Bug#573189: linux-image-2.6.33-2-686: aufs does not work in 2.6.33

On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 17:59 +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> unarchive 573189
> reopen 573189
> found 553472 2.6.34-1~experimental.2
> thanks
>
> ...and the story of being ignored apparently continues
>
> ---snip---
> r15628 | maks | 2010-05-05 23:44:47 +0200 (Wed, 05 May 2010) | 4 lines
>
> sync to 2.6.34-rc6
>
> disabled arm feature patches, nuked merged stuff, disabled aufs,
> fixed orig generation.
> ---snap---
>
> why can't you guys not a) communicate when you disable things other
> people relay on and, b) write better commit messages (e.g. in case the
> disabling was just temporary, so that we don't need to constantly worry)?

Why can't you understand that:
- squeeze is going to use 2.6.32
- experimental is experimental
- aufs is a dirty hack and will keep on breaking

Ben.
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