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Old 06-03-2008, 09:36 PM
Alexandre Oliva
 
Default Bug#484365: suggestion: switch to linux-libre in main

Package: linux-2.6
Severity: normal


In case you're not aware, the linux-libre project grew out of
gNewSense's efforts to publish 100% Free Software extracts from the
kernel distributed by kernel.org, later on picked up by BLAG and, more
recently, by FSF Latin America. You might want to use it, instead of
kernel.org's kernel, to get closer to compliance with your policy of
shipping only Free Software in main.

Whether you move the non-Free kernel you currently ship to non-free, or
simply remove it, is something you should discuss and decide on your
own, but I thought I'd remind you of both possibilities.

linux-libre is currently available at
http://www.fsfla.org/~lxoliva/fsfla/linux-libre/

There's a README in there. We're considering creating a freed-ebian
repository with linux-libre-based kernels for Debian GNU/Linux in there,
but we hope that, knowing how seriously you take your social contract
and the freedom of your users, I thought you might want to preempt
that move.

In case you'd like to make such a move using an older version of Linux
than those we've already deblobbed, I'd be happy to assist. Just let us
know at linux-libre@fsfla.org.

Hope this helps, and that Debian one more time sets an example of
promoting the Free Software philosophy and caring about users' freedom.

Best regards,



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Old 06-03-2008, 10:16 PM
Thiemo Seufer
 
Default Bug#484365: suggestion: switch to linux-libre in main

Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> Package: linux-2.6
> Severity: normal
>
>
> In case you're not aware, the linux-libre project grew out of
> gNewSense's efforts to publish 100% Free Software extracts from the
> kernel distributed by kernel.org, later on picked up by BLAG and, more
> recently, by FSF Latin America. You might want to use it, instead of
> kernel.org's kernel, to get closer to compliance with your policy of
> shipping only Free Software in main.
>
> Whether you move the non-Free kernel you currently ship to non-free, or
> simply remove it, is something you should discuss and decide on your
> own, but I thought I'd remind you of both possibilities.

What are the specific instances of non-free software you found in
Debian's kernel?

> linux-libre is currently available at
> http://www.fsfla.org/~lxoliva/fsfla/linux-libre/
>
> There's a README in there. We're considering creating a freed-ebian
> repository with linux-libre-based kernels for Debian GNU/Linux in there,
> but we hope that, knowing how seriously you take your social contract
> and the freedom of your users, I thought you might want to preempt
> that move.

I didn't find documentation about what was actually removed.


Thiemo



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Old 06-03-2008, 11:05 PM
Alexandre Oliva
 
Default Bug#484365: suggestion: switch to linux-libre in main

On Jun 3, 2008, Thiemo Seufer <ths@networkno.de> wrote:

> What are the specific instances of non-free software you found in
> Debian's kernel?

I ran deblob-check on
http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.25.orig.tar.gz
that I found referenced as the source tarball for some linux-2.6
Debian package on some debian.org web page.

Then I ran deblob-check with -C, and it printed a few megabytes.

Then I deleted both the tarball and the output.

> I didn't find documentation about what was actually removed.

You can find deblob-check as well as the much smaller deblob scripts
for each upstream release at
http://fsfla.org/svn/fsfla/software/linux-libre/scripts/

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