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Old 05-29-2008, 07:01 PM
Ana Guerrero
 
Default How to install KDE 4 beta 1 from experimental

The first beta of KDE 4.1 was released a couple of days ago, and of course,
we did upload packages to experimental.
It is finally time of encouraging users to try KDE 4. So here are some
instructions of how installing KDE 4 and how going back to KDE 3.5 if
you feel like KDE 4.1 is not yet for you

If you do not want to risk your system, you can use this instructions
to install KDE 4.1 in a virtual system such as qemu or VirtualBox.

Some previous notes:

- Please, pretty please, report the KDE related bugs in the KDE bugzilla
at: http://bugs.kde.org Report it in the Debian BTS only gives us extra work
that we do not have resources to handle.

-Report in the Debian BTS the packaging problems you find. If you are not
sure, ask in the users mailing list: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Archives at http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/


Update to KDE 4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1 Add experimental sources to /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental main


2 Run:

aptitude update


3 Install minimal functional KDE 4 system.
This requires some polishing and if you are using non official repositories
for KDE related stuff, your system might break badly. Then run:

aptitude install -t experimental kde4-minimal

It will need remove some packages like: kwin, kicker or ksmserver, that is
fine.


4 Restart your system.

Assuming you are using kdm, after restar, you will get kde4's kdm.
Log in and voila! KDE 4.


5 Installing the remaining packages.

You still will have KDE 3 stuff in your system and plenty of KDE 4 to install.
I would recommend upgrade module to module, for example, for upgrading
kdeutils:

aptitude install -t experimental kdeutils

So you can see clearly what is being updated, what programs dissapear and
what is new. And if you do not want to test all the KDE modules, you do not need
to install it all.

Available KDE 4 modules are:
kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork
kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev kdepim and extragear-plasma


6 You can see all the KDE 3.5 packages that are still in your system from a
Konsole with:

dpkg -l | grep 4:3.5

Translations are in the package kde-i18n-XX where XX is your language code.

Once you have installed all the KDE 4 packages you want, i would suggest
you comment out the experimental source line adding a # in the beginning.



How to go back to KDE 3
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1 Remove experimental from your sources.list

2 Remove all the base packages:

aptitude remove kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdepimlibs5 kdepimlibs-data
kdebase-data kdebase-bin kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-workspace
kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdebase-workspace-libs4+5
libphonon4


3 Install the minimal kde 3:

aptitude install kdelibs kdebase kdm


4 Restart your system and the good old kdm should be on your screen again.

5 Now you can continue installing all the KDE 3 packages you like using.
You always can use aptitude install the meta package KDE, but since that
installs a lot of packages I would recommend install the metapackages you
really want.

The list:
kdeaccessibility kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics
kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev


5 You can see the remaining KDE 4 bits on your system with

dpkg -l | grep 4:4.0.80


What KDE will be available in Lenny?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We do not know yet, we would like to ship KDE 4.1 but it is still early
to know for sure.

Ana


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Old 05-29-2008, 11:12 PM
Raúl Sánchez Siles
 
Default How to install KDE 4 beta 1 from experimental

Hello:

Thanks for the info Ana. Just a little correction:

El Jueves, 29 de Mayo de 2008, Ana Guerrero escribió:
> The first beta of KDE 4.1 was released a couple of days ago, and of course,
> we did upload packages to experimental.

[...]

> 6 You can see all the KDE 3.5 packages that are still in your system from a
> Konsole with:
>
> dpkg -l | grep 4:3.5
>
> Translations are in the package kde-i18n-XX where XX is your language code.

This is for kde3, for kde4, translations are packages kde-l10n-XX


Thanks for your hard work.

Regards,

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Old 05-30-2008, 02:04 PM
Marek Hulán
 
Default How to install KDE 4 beta 1 from experimental

Cool howto, I would like to test it and eventually report bugs but first, are
there all packages also for amd64 architecture ready? When I try to install
kde4-minimal I got score -1736 (there are a lot of problems and conflicts
resulting in unresolved dependencies (amarok, k3b and kdeadmin). So should I
accept this?

Thank you for your time,
ares
Dne Ät 29. kvÄ›tna 2008 Ana Guerrero napsal(a):
> The first beta of KDE 4.1 was released a couple of days ago, and of course,
> we did upload packages to experimental.
> It is finally time of encouraging users to try KDE 4. So here are some
> instructions of how installing KDE 4 and how going back to KDE 3.5 if
> you feel like KDE 4.1 is not yet for you


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Old 05-30-2008, 10:12 PM
Joseph Neal
 
Default How to install KDE 4 beta 1 from experimental

Ana Guerrero wrote:

> We do not know yet, we would like to ship KDE 4.1 but it is still early
> to know for sure.

Is proxy support considered a blocker for KDE 4.1 in Lenny?


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