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Old 06-07-2010, 01:54 PM
Scott Kitterman
 
Default Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

KDE 4.4 and 4.5 handle plasma-netbook autostart differently. That patch is the one you want for 4.4.


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Old 06-08-2010, 07:50 PM
George Kiagiadakis
 
Default Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:35 PM, George Kiagiadakis
<kiagiadakis.george@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins <blhiggins@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
>> /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
>> plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
>> Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas plasma-netbook
>> won't.
>>
>> Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
>> sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
>> apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S
>>
>> I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with KDE,
>> perhaps?
>>
>> Peace,
>> Brendon
>
> I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
> packaging problem.
>
> The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
> has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
> indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
> plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.
>
> I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
> both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
> going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
> plasma-desktop is installed and a "netbook" form factor is selected in
> systemsettings? (I had tried that once)
>
> [1]. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff
>

Hi,
I tested this on my system and I noticed that both plasma-desktop and
plasma-netbook can autostart without having any plasma-*.desktop file
in /usr/share/autostart. I wonder how this happens and why it doesn't
work on your system, Brendon. Scott, do you know any more details
about how this is handled? I am still not convinced about why this
patch solves the problem.

Best regards,
George


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Old 06-08-2010, 09:46 PM
Scott Kitterman
 
Default Bug#584905: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

"George Kiagiadakis" <kiagiadakis.george@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:35 PM, George Kiagiadakis
><kiagiadakis.george@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Brendon Higgins <blhiggins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I think I've found a reason why plasma-netbook doesn't autostart.
>>> /usr/share/autostart/plasma-netbook.desktop doesn't exist. The equivalent,
>>> plasma-desktop.desktop, does exist (in the plasma-desktop package).
>>> Presumably, this is why plasma-desktop will autostart, whereas plasma-netbook
>>> won't.
>>>
>>> Now I don't know if plasma-netbook.desktop ought to exist given upstream
>>> sources, or not. A quick search in KDE sources doesn't find anything, yet
>>> apparently there is such a file in Ubuntu (Lucid). :-S
>>>
>>> I guess the Ubuntu file could be distro custom. I should file a bug with KDE,
>>> perhaps?
>>>
>>> Peace,
>>> Brendon
>>
>> I'm turning this email into a bug report, since this seems to be a
>> packaging problem.
>>
>> The relevant kubuntu patch seems to be this one [1] and it seems it
>> has been removed from the 4.5 beta packages, with a changelog message
>> indicating it has been fixed upstream, although I see no
>> plasma-netbook.desktop in their plasma-netbook.install file.
>>
>> I don't fully understand though how this is going to work when one has
>> both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook installed... are they both
>> going to be autostarted? Also, why does plasma-netbook autostart when
>> plasma-desktop is installed and a "netbook" form factor is selected in
>> systemsettings? (I had tried that once)
>>
>> [1]. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/340/debian/patches/kubuntu_102_plasma_netbook_no_autostart.diff
>>
>
>Hi,
>I tested this on my system and I noticed that both plasma-desktop and
>plasma-netbook can autostart without having any plasma-*.desktop file
>in /usr/share/autostart. I wonder how this happens and why it doesn't
>work on your system, Brendon. Scott, do you know any more details
>about how this is handled? I am still not convinced about why this
>patch solves the problem.
>
There is a kcm that can control which plasma starts when both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook are installed without reference to autostart files. The upstream design for 4.4 worked fine if both or just desktop were installed, but didn't consider the netbook only case for first run. The autostart file is a work around for the hole in the design.

Scott K

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