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Old 05-10-2010, 09:20 PM
Facundo Aguilera
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

El Lunes 10 Mayo 2010 11:08:40 Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> escribió:
> Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it
> difficult to use. Please be very specific so that bugs can be filed
> and the software can be fixed. General statements such as "KDE4 sux"
> are not welcome, as they do not give any indication as to what can be
> fixed.



The old problem using proxies with kopete and kmail. They do not use the
general settings in systemsettings and can't be configured in any other way.

Facundo


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Old 05-10-2010, 09:49 PM
Martin Steigerwald
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Am Montag 10 Mai 2010 schrieb Valentin Pavlyuchenko:
> Well, I have an issue that remained on my Debian system from KDE 4.3
> or even 4.2 (And I have it now in 4.4).
> It's a krunner freeze when typing (usually I got it when I mistype
> something). If I'm not alone, then it's definitely the bug that must
> be solved.

I read in some KDE developer blog I do not remember anymore and a hang /
freeze of krunner might be fixed in trunk.

I have seen such a hang while typing too.

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Old 05-10-2010, 09:58 PM
Martin Steigerwald
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Am Montag 10 Mai 2010 schrieb Nate Bargmann:
> * On 2010 10 May 11:50 -0500, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > Yes, 4.2 and now 4.4 seem to behave badly without a clean ~/.kde. I
> > find that very disturbing and unstable.
>
> For the record, I had a clean ~/.kde for 4.2 when it hit Sid about a
> year ago and upgraded the offered KDE packages through 4.3.4, IIRC, and
> then started with a clean ~/.kde for Sid's new 4.4.3.
>
> - Nate >>

IMHO when a config setting is not handled properly on upgrade of KDE its a
bug.

I migrated configuration from KDE 3.5.10 and just pressed on "Reset to
defaults" for quite some appearance related settings in order to switch
them to Oxygen. There have been issues, but I mostly didn't file them as
bugs.

Only one I triaged and filed: The separator "58" for colon for web
shortcuts in kuriikwsrc or something like that it was is not recognized by
KRunner, only by Konqueror. ":" instead works with both. Unfortunately
Konqueror saved it as "58" not as ":".

Anyway I suggest to file those issues as concrete as possible as bugs as
you manage to take time for it.

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Old 05-10-2010, 10:02 PM
Richard Hartmann
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 22:39, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Really? Please file those crashes! I though that all the serious Kmail
> crashers were fixed!

Speaking of which... As you are a walking bug filofax:
Even though I have to say the d word.. What is the state of
disconnected IMAP? Still killing a few thousands emails
sometimes, as with KDE 3?


Richard


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Old 05-10-2010, 10:25 PM
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On Monday 10 May 2010 17:02:35 Richard Hartmann wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 22:39, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Really? Please file those crashes! I though that all the serious Kmail
> > crashers were fixed!
>
> Speaking of which... As you are a walking bug filofax:
> Even though I have to say the d word.. What is the state of
> disconnected IMAP? Still killing a few thousands emails
> sometimes, as with KDE 3?

I didn't have it hit me in KDE 3.

I use multiple disconnected IMAP accounts and have without issue since 4.2
entered Sid.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:48 PM
Frederik Schwarzer
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. - Dienstag 11 Mai 2010 00:25:54]
> On Monday 10 May 2010 17:02:35 Richard Hartmann wrote:
> > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 22:39, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Really? Please file those crashes! I though that all the serious Kmail
> > > crashers were fixed!
> >
> > Speaking of which... As you are a walking bug filofax:
> > Even though I have to say the d word.. What is the state of
> > disconnected IMAP? Still killing a few thousands emails
> > sometimes, as with KDE 3?
>
> I didn't have it hit me in KDE 3.
>
> I use multiple disconnected IMAP accounts and have without issue since 4.2
> entered Sid.

There were issues with data loss when using DIMAP.

However, there was some work done with that regard.
Read the last few comments here:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140443

But I do not know if anyone really confirmed that those problems are gone.

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Old 05-11-2010, 01:08 AM
godo
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Few thing's that I really ned or miss me from KDE 3:

Konsole Profiles widget -there is only Shell. In 3 was Root Shell,
Python Shell etc.


Info/Error Message -in 3 you can select and copy in 4 only in certain
cases, and that is more than important if you have some big nasty line.


Konqueror -system:/ in 3 gives you list of all your hard disk's and
external memory in 4 doesn't exist.
Storage media
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=sm_kde3_5_k armic_livecd_konqueror.png
When you click it is system:/media/
http://dobosevic.com/Vijesti_i_Novosti/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/simply_mepis_02.png


KDE dragon pic in logout window :-)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/Kdelogout.png


Working knetworkmannager. Somebody sad something about that. In 3 almost
never have any problem in 4 can't remember WiFi password, says for my
connection that is insecure and it is WPA-PSK for other network says
correctly WPA-PSK, can't connect to hidden SSID, doesn't scan hidden SSID.


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Old 05-11-2010, 06:11 AM
Adrian von Bidder
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Dotan,

On Monday 10 May 2010 18.12:46 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I started 4.4 on a new ~/.kde
> folder, can you try in a new user profile and report back?

I hate it when this shows up. Yes, it's probably easier to debug, but often
bugs *do* show up that don't happen anymore when I remove my ~/.kde
directory, but this doesn't really help the user who has the bug.
Unfortunately, the end result is very often that removing ~/.kde and
starting from scratch becomes the only solution that is "officially"
recommended.

Fine. Except that reconfiguring my desktop to how I want it takes ages. I
use offline IMAP and have 100s of MB of email in my ~/.kde that will need to
be re-downloaded. And stuff like the calendar etc. is in there, too. And
the nepomuk database etc.

So yes, KDE people may well want to know if a bug happens on old
configurations only or if it happens on new configurations, but I think
there's an attitude problem here: KDE needs to become MUCH better at dealing
with unexpected input from its configuration. (I don't have a precise
example right now; I'll try to report this kind of issue when I see it next.
Admittedly, KDE has improved in this area as well.)

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Old 05-11-2010, 06:15 AM
Adrian von Bidder
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On Monday 10 May 2010 16.08:40 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it
> difficult to use.

Nepomuk / Strigi need to improve a *lot*.

* Strigi sucks up all disk bandwidth and, given enough time, all memory to
the point where the oom kill kills my session.
* Strigi index uses all my disk. Removing folders that were indexed (either
removing these files, or removing them from the strigi configuration so
they're not indexed anymore) didn't seem to have any effect on index size.
* Likewise when I completely disable file indexing: the database doesn't
shrink / isn't removed.

I'd really like to use file indexing, but everytime I enable it, I quickly
turn it off again :-(

cheers
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:58 AM
cobaco
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On Tuesday 11 May 2010, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> Dotan,
>
> On Monday 10 May 2010 18.12:46 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > I started 4.4 on a new ~/.kde
> > folder, can you try in a new user profile and report back?
>
> I hate it when this shows up. Yes, it's probably easier to debug, but
> often bugs *do* show up that don't happen anymore when I remove my
> ~/.kde directory, but this doesn't really help the user who has the bug.
> Unfortunately, the end result is very often that removing ~/.kde and
> starting from scratch becomes the only solution that is "officially"
> recommended.

read remove as 'move temporarily out of the way', this is just the first
step in localizing the problem: if it doesn't get rid of the problem then
we've established conclusively that the bug is not triggered by something in
your personal settings.

If the problem doesn't persist when removing kde then you either:
a) start afresh, and forget about it
b) start from last good backup (assuming you have one, most home users
seemingly don't)
c) work on localizing the problem further by starting to move parts of your
old .kde into your new empty .kde (in order to find which configuration file
triggers the problem). Once you've localized the problem this way, you'll be
able to give the devs enough info to reproduce your problem, thus enabling
them to start looking for the underlying cause.

c is the way to help with improving kde, but ofc you need to have the time
for it

> Fine. Except that reconfiguring my desktop to how I want it takes ages.
> I use offline IMAP and have 100s of MB of email in my ~/.kde that will
> need to be re-downloaded. And stuff like the calendar etc. is in there,
> too. And the nepomuk database etc.

take procedure b or c above to avoid this?
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