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Old 05-10-2010, 05:59 PM
Iker Salmón San Millán
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

I was thinking about opening a new thread to talk about the device notifier, but i found this message so i will do it here.

I think there is something wrong with this plasmoid, there is a bug report talking about it but it's being ignored for now.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226710


As you see in this picture:
http://www.esdebian.org/files/esdebian.org/u26290/notificadorescritorio.jpeg

the text stands out together with the button to unmount the device, but
when it is on the panel this does not happen, making it imposible to
unmount the device as you see in this other picture:
http://www.esdebian.org/files/esdebian.org/u26290/notificadorbarra.jpeg


At the beginning, i thougth that the problem was only related with
localication languages, but after some tests, now i have another
conclusion.

I think that the position of the button, depends not only on the size of the plasmoid, because when the plasmoid is smaller than the lengh of the text of the mainlabel, the button is alligned right and bellow* the last letter of the text


This also happens even when it's in english* with* low resolutions and/or too big font sizes.* I've been reading the code of the plasmoid trying to underestand it in order to learn how to make some changes to make the button appear always inside the plasmoid* no matter how long the length of the text in the "m_mainlabel" is, however* i am a newbie in this matters.* The only thing i found is this:


"category->setAlignment(Qt::AlignRight);"

*by the way why AlignRight? if you see the first picture* i think that the label* with the description of the device "Volumen de almacenamiento" aligned right is not the best option.


By now, i have solved "my" problem by changing the spanish translation but i don't think that's an elegant solution:
http://www.esdebian.org/files/esdebian.org/u26290/notificadormodificad.jpeg


as you see, when the text is short enough this problem does not appear.

cheers!
 
Old 05-10-2010, 06:30 PM
Dotan Cohen
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 10 May 2010 18:39, Valentin Pavlyuchenko <thevalik@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I have an issue that remained on my Debian system from KDE 4.3
> or even 4.2 (And I have it now in 4.4).
> It's a krunner freeze when typing (usually I got it when I mistype something).
> If I'm not alone, then it's definitely the bug that must be solved.
>

Please give all the detail that you can here:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205369


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Old 05-10-2010, 06:33 PM
Dotan Cohen
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 10 May 2010 20:29, Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> wrote:
> On 2010-05-10 Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> I also would experience Krunner freezes on backspace, KDE 4.2 - 4.3,
>> but I cannot reproduce now on 4.4. I started 4.4 on a new ~/.kde
>> folder, can you try in a new user profile and report back? Thanks.
>
> I have a brand new, clean install of 4.4.3 and I experience 'freezes' as well.
> I've put quotes around it since it appears to freeze, ie doesn't seem to do anything for > 10
> seconds.
> For example: Alt+F2 to start Krunner, type "kwrite" <enter> ... doesn't seem to do anything.
> So I start kwrite from the ALI (Lancelot in my case) and kwrite starts and then starts another
> instance, probably from the Krunner (since Krunner window disappears).
>
> Other times though, it works straight away, even with the same command. So it's not very consistent.
>

Diederik, please mention that here:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205369

You input is important. Thanks.


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Old 05-10-2010, 06:35 PM
Dotan Cohen
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010/5/10 Iker Salmón San Millán <shaola@esdebian.org>:
> I was thinking about opening a new thread to talk about the device notifier,
> but i found this message so i will do it here.
>
> I think there is something wrong with this plasmoid, there is a bug report
> talking about it but it's being ignored for now.
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226710
>
>
> As you see in this picture:
> http://www.esdebian.org/files/esdebian.org/u26290/notificadorescritorio.jpeg
> the text stands out together with the button to unmount the device, but when
> it is on the panel this does not happen, making it imposible to unmount the
> device as you see in this other picture:
> http://www.esdebian.org/files/esdebian.org/u26290/notificadorbarra.jpeg
>
> At the beginning, i thougth that the problem was only related with
> localication languages, but after some tests, now i have another conclusion.
>
> I think that the position of the button, depends not only on the size of the
> plasmoid, because when the plasmoid is smaller than the lengh of the text of
> the mainlabel, the button is alligned right and bellow* the last letter of
> the text
>
> This also happens even when it's in english* with* low resolutions and/or
> too big font sizes.* I've been reading the code of the plasmoid trying to
> underestand it in order to learn how to make some changes to make the button
> appear always inside the plasmoid* no matter how long the length of the text
> in the "m_mainlabel" is, however* i am a newbie in this matters.* The only
> thing i found is this:
>
> "category->setAlignment(Qt::AlignRight);"
>
> *by the way why AlignRight? if you see the first picture* i think that the
> label* with the description of the device "Volumen de almacenamiento"
> aligned right is not the best option.
>
> By now, i have solved "my" problem by changing the spanish translation but i
> don't think that's an elegant solution:
> http://www.esdebian.org/files/esdebian.org/u26290/notificadormodificad.jpeg
>
> as you see, when the text is short enough this problem does not appear.
>
> cheers!
>

Thanks, please mention that info on the bug. And you might want to
vote for this Device Notifier feature request:
http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#idea87620_page1

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Old 05-10-2010, 07:04 PM
Iker Salmón San Millán
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

El 10 de mayo de 2010 20:35, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> escribió:



>Thanks, please mention that info on the bug. And you might want to

>vote for this Device Notifier feature request:

>http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#idea87620_page1



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Done, thanks Dotan
 
Old 05-10-2010, 07:28 PM
Richard Hartmann
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 16:08, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it
> difficult to use.

Good idea. The recent messages in various threads motivated me
to do Yet Another Round Of KDE 4 Bug Filing.
After all, if you don't tell people about what annoys you, how are
they supposed to know and potentially fix them?
Starting with Amarok, which is not strictly KDE, I submitted two
issues & am pasting links in here to

a) motivate others to just go ahead and file things
b) give others a chance to comment on my specific suggestions


Here goes:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237151
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237155


Richard


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Old 05-10-2010, 07:43 PM
David Baron
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

I am generally happy with KDE4. A few issues, though:

1. Desktop startup speed. A user with few if any widgets around will be
satisfied. Those of us who want to use a lot of these tools will sit and wait.
ALL widgets and panel-applets must be asynchronous and background any lengthy
process such a searches, indexing, testing network and ports and such. ALL
those daemons and "resources" of akonadi and nepomuk must be nicely niced and
ioniced out of the way. If recoll's indexing can run nicely and stall nothing,
so can kde4's stuff.

2. Activity <--> desktop? Still confused? Think of use cases rather than
concepts which though elegant may lay on the virtual shelf. Dotan's post is a
welcome step off the ivory tower!

3. Kmail threading. Much much improved, will still crash out occasionally when
deleting, moving messages.

4. Untoward pauses in the UI when typing this post.

5. Kaddressbook/Akonadi has too many duplicated "resources." Kaddressbook is
too slow to be of much use if it has a lot of data. Needs some say of handling
contact duplication (which I got by accident and am stuck with).

6. Very old issue: KDE should respect the "system administrator"s settings of
file permissions. If I mess up, that's my fault.

To be continued ...

BTW, distasteful expressions such as "sucks" have gotten much too common on
these lists, are offensive and not professional!


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Old 05-10-2010, 08:33 PM
Dotan Cohen
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 10 May 2010 22:28, Richard Hartmann <richih.mailinglist@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 16:08, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it
>> difficult to use.
>
> Good idea. The recent messages in various threads motivated me
> to do Yet Another Round Of KDE 4 Bug Filing.
> After all, if you don't tell people about what annoys you, how are
> they supposed to know and potentially fix them?
> Starting with Amarok, which is not strictly KDE, I submitted two
> issues & am pasting links in here to
>
> a) motivate others to just go ahead and file things
> b) give others a chance to comment on my specific suggestions
>
>
> Here goes:
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237151
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237155
>
>

Thanks, Richard. I did not even know that KDE 4 did not have a music
player manager, as Amarok 1.4 did. Thanks for filing that!



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Old 05-10-2010, 08:39 PM
Dotan Cohen
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 10 May 2010 22:43, David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il> wrote:
> I am generally happy with KDE4. A few issues, though:
>
> 1. Desktop startup speed. A user with few if any widgets around will be
> satisfied. Those of us who want to use a lot of these tools will sit and wait.
> ALL widgets and panel-applets must be asynchronous and background any lengthy
> process such a searches, indexing, testing network and ports and such. ALL
> those daemons and "resources" of akonadi and nepomuk must be nicely niced and
> ioniced out of the way. If recoll's indexing can run nicely and stall nothing,
> so can kde4's stuff.
>

Even Gnome starts in seconds now. I agree, startup time is absurd,
especially with Akonadi.


> 2. Activity <--> desktop? Still confused? Think of use cases rather than
> concepts which though elegant may lay on the virtual shelf. Dotan's post is a
> welcome step off the ivory tower!
>

It should improve for KDE 4.5. Aaron (the head Plasma dev) recently
discussed some changes to the Activities, and the possibility of
hiding the feature in 4.5 until it is mature in 4.6.


> 3. Kmail threading. Much much improved, will still crash out occasionally when
> deleting, moving messages.
>

Really? Please file those crashes! I though that all the serious Kmail
crashers were fixed!


> 4. Untoward pauses in the UI when typing this post.
>

Can you file a bug on that? I cannot reproduce, but I am not a Kmail
user, only occasionally test it.


> 5. Kaddressbook/Akonadi has too many duplicated "resources." Kaddressbook is
> too slow to be of much use if it has a lot of data. Needs some say of handling
> contact duplication (which I got by accident and am stuck with).
>

With Akonadi (4.4)? I don't find it slow at all, and I'm pushing 500 contacts.


> 6. Very old issue: KDE should respect the "system administrator"s settings of
> file permissions. If I mess up, that's my fault.
>

Please elaborate.


> To be continued ...
>

Yes, please!


> BTW, distasteful expressions such as "sucks" have gotten much too common on
> these lists, are offensive and not professional!
>

Agreed. As a non-native English speaker who knows where the term came
from, it does make me sick.


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Old 05-10-2010, 08:59 PM
Frederik Schwarzer
 
Default What needs to improve in KDE 4?

[Dotan Cohen - Montag 10 Mai 2010 22:39:27]
> On 10 May 2010 22:43, David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il> wrote:

> > 3. Kmail threading. Much much improved, will still crash out occasionally when
> > deleting, moving messages.
> >
>
> Really? Please file those crashes! I though that all the serious Kmail
> crashers were fixed!

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186502

Maybe this one? It happens here only with fancy header and with encapsulated mails.
So switching to standard header is a good workaround for me.

Regards


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