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On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 20:11, Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de> wrote:

> When I press Alt-F1 I get the Kickoff menu.

Same here. Debian Sid, KDE 4.4.3 from experimental.

Richard

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> Lisi <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> :
> I do not have to give him reasons for my dislike.

Your mind really suites proprietary softwares.

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> Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> :
> I expect you to dislike KDE 4, as it does not suit your needs! That is
> quite why I ask what your problems are, so that I might fix them.

If that is your task, I tink you'd better skip those non-contructive
comments.
There is a lot of constructive ones, that you can care about.

Anyway, I dont know what are your obligations, but in a community
driven project, I would behave that way.

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On 10 May 2010 09:55, Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina@gulfsat.mg> wrote:
> If that is your task, I tink you'd better skip those non-contructive
> comments.
> There is a lot of constructive ones, that you can care about.
>

You are right, and I should know better than to feed the trolls.
However, when the trolls accuse me then for some reason I feel the
need to defend myself.

> Anyway, I dont know what are your obligations, but in a community
> driven project, I would behave that way.
>

No obligations! I work on KDE because I like it.

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Dotan Cohen schreef:

where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit>
copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough?

In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -> Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can
you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE version?

hi dotan:

that is not exactly what i mean: i was not clear enough: so another time:

i mean in kde 3.5 in the same row as 'copy' under 'edit' the 'copy
files' possibility that i cannot find back in kde4.x.x
i'll look at exact the version of kde 4.x.x later. this version of kde
4.x.x is on another (non-production) machine with os debian_sid, up to date.

thanks for your answer,

kind regards,

steef

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On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:20:26 +0300
Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> wrote:

> > See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png.
> > Translation of the popup-box: "copy selected files in /home/sjoerd
> > to:"
> >
>
> Here one would type the names of files that he wishes to copy? Does he
> then perform a normal paste operation in the destination folder?
>
> One _work_around_ if this is a critical feature would be to press F4
> to open a terminal pane in Dolphin, then use the "cp" command as need.
> They let the user type out the name of the files to be copied,
> assuming that is the critical feature here. As a bonus you also have
> tab-completion and "mv"!
>
> If I'm missing the gist of the feature then please tell me what I'm
> missing. It certainly doesn't look like a killer feature from what I
> understand, but of course that is subjective. If it provides something
> important I'll file a bug report.
>
>

Its the COPY TO.. Menu option that he's talking about there. Its in the
konqueror's edit menu.
The user can copy and paste files in one go with that option as it
opens a dialog box asking for the destination. Also I believe it keeps
a list of most used locations as part of the option so that you can
just select from the list.

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On 10 May 2010 17:34, Mihira Fernando <mihiratheace@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also I believe it keeps
> a list of most used locations as part of the option so that you can
> just select from the list.
>
>

Thanks, you might want to suggest that the Places menu be available in
that dialogue, then, as that is the KDE 4 way of doing it:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237115

Actually, if it were to use the standard File Chooser dialogue, then
it would have Places. You might want to comment on this bug as well,
which asks that recent locations be added to the File Chooser
dialogue:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104501

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On Mon, 10 May 2010 15:11:45 +0200
Sjoerd Hardeman <sjoerd@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:

Hello Sjoerd,

> See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png.
> Translation of the popup-box: "copy selected files in /home/sjoerd to:"

Not really needed;

In Dolphin's 'Settings Menu' choose 'Configure Dolphin', and 'General'
then select the "Context Menu" tab, and make sure the "Show 'Copy To' and
'Move To' commands" item is ticked.

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On 6 May 2010 13:10, Marc Haber <mh+debian-kde@zugschlus.de> wrote:
> I still hope that 4.4.3 will fix the krunner instabilities that were
> introduced in 4.4.
>

Marc, please mention your issue on this bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205369

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Am Dienstag 11 Mai 2010 schrieb Mike Bird:
> On Mon May 10 2010 15:20:52 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > This list is not for development issues like developing / maintaining
> > KDE 3.5 packages for Squeeze.
> >
> > So IMHO any further request for KDE 3.5 in Squeeze is off topic on
> > this list as Debian KDE/Qt maintainers repeatedly said they won't.
>
> Please don't lie. This list is for "Discussions related to KDE in
> Debian. Those developing KDE-based packages are encouraged to use this
> to discuss issues and share their experience."
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/

First its IMHO.

Second its from what I understood about the different purposes of debian-
kde and qt-kde-ml mailing lists.

And debian-kde is clearly sorted as users mailing list:

Debian in KDE
http://lists.debian.org/users.html

debian-qt-kde: Packages using Qt and/or KDE
http://lists.debian.org/devel.html

So I think my view is not that far off.

So or so: Your posts did not seem to me to bring anyone even the slightest
bit forward towards having KDE 3.5.

So I finish with a suggestion, how this can work:

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Hi developers and users of Debian in KDE,

I set up an Alioth project repository of KDE 3.5 packages that I forward-
ported to Squeeze at:

http://some-alioth-url

Right now I started just with the forward port of the basic KDE packages.

I like to continue that work and to make the package co-installable with
KDE 4.

I appreciate any helping hand. If you are a user and want to use KDE 3 I
encourage you to try may package. Please note they are not co-installable
with KDE 4 in the moment. If you are a developer please help me with
building and polishing packages.

If you want to help out, subscribe to mailinglist xyz.

Regards,
Mike
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Now, how about that, Mike? How about being the change you want to achieve?

Thanks.

Note: KDE 3.5 doesn't really need to be co-installable for those only
interested in KDE 3.5. At least not initially.

Just a small start might pull this off for you. But if you do not *act*,
probably nothing will happen. You can't change those who are not
interested in providing KDE 3.5 for Debian Squeeze. So either you start
pulling it off for yourself or it - unless someone else feels the
motivation to do it - *will just not happen*.

Its as easy as that.

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