I want to use "Russia" & "USA" keyboard layouts and switch them with
Ctrl+Shift. I had added "Russia" & "USA" to active layouts so that I can
switch them with left-mouse-click in the tray. But I hadn't be able to
find option for layout switching in "Keyboard Shortcuts" (excepting for
"Switch to Next Keyboard Layout") applet of KDE Control Center.


For now I selected only "Russian" layout but turned on the checkbox
"Include lation layout" so that command for xkb became:
"setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout ru,us" and turned on the checkbox
"Ctrl+Shift change layout" in "Xkb Options" tab. After it I has been
able to switch language with Ctrl+Shift. Unfortunately, now I can't see
current language in the tray that is very inconvenient.



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I want to use "Russia" & "USA" keyboard layouts and switch them with
Ctrl+Shift. I had added "Russia" & "USA" to active layouts so that I can
switch them with left-mouse-click in the tray. But I hadn't be able to
find option for layout switching in "Keyboard Shortcuts" (excepting for
"Switch to Next Keyboard Layout") applet of KDE Control Center.

For now I selected only "Russian" layout but turned on the checkbox
"Include lation layout" so that command for xkb became:
"setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout ru,us" and turned on the checkbox
"Ctrl+Shift change layout" in "Xkb Options" tab. After it I has been
able to switch language with Ctrl+Shift. Unfortunately, now I can't see
current language in the tray that is very inconvenient.


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On Thu,17.Jul.08, 19:52:32, Anton Liaukevich wrote:
> I want to use "Russia" & "USA" keyboard layouts and switch them with
> Ctrl+Shift. I had added "Russia" & "USA" to active layouts so that I can
> switch them with left-mouse-click in the tray. But I hadn't be able to
> find option for layout switching in "Keyboard Shortcuts" (excepting for
> "Switch to Next Keyboard Layout") applet of KDE Control Center.
>
> For now I selected only "Russian" layout but turned on the checkbox
> "Include lation layout" so that command for xkb became:
> "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout ru,us" and turned on the checkbox
> "Ctrl+Shift change layout" in "Xkb Options" tab. After it I has been
> able to switch language with Ctrl+Shift. Unfortunately, now I can't see
> current language in the tray that is very inconvenient.

I'm not familiar with KDE, but you should be able to achieve the same by
using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. At the question about additional
options for the keyboard put:

grp:ctrl_shift_toggle

Regards,
Andrei
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Hi !

If you use only two keyboard layouts, you can use Caps lock to switch
from one to another. This is done by using the option:
grp:caps_toggle. Then the led of the keyboard will indicate you which
one is activated.

That is what I use with french and russian phonetic layout, and it
works very well, at least for me. This is however not a "kde specific"
solution.

Best regards,

Cedric


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El Jueves, 17 de Julio de 2008, Anton Liaukevich escribió:
> I want to use "Russia" & "USA" keyboard layouts and switch them with
> Ctrl+Shift. I had added "Russia" & "USA" to active layouts so that I can
> switch them with left-mouse-click in the tray. But I hadn't be able to
> find option for layout switching in "Keyboard Shortcuts" (excepting for
> "Switch to Next Keyboard Layout") applet of KDE Control Center.

I change from spanish to US keyboard layout with ctrl+alt+k. If you only have
two layouts, I think is quite comfortable.

> For now I selected only "Russian" layout but turned on the checkbox
> "Include lation layout" so that command for xkb became:
> "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout ru,us" and turned on the checkbox
> "Ctrl+Shift change layout" in "Xkb Options" tab. After it I has been
> able to switch language with Ctrl+Shift. Unfortunately, now I can't see
> current language in the tray that is very inconvenient.

I think that KDE (at least in 3.X) removed "modifier only shortcuts" (i.e.,
you can't have a shortcut without a "normal" key). There was a long thread on
kde-core-devel some time ago about this. That's the reason why you can't, for
example, open the K-menu with the Win key.

I don't fully understand the reasons, but it seems that were causing trouble,
and was difficult to differentiate when ctrl+shift was pressed to use another
shortcut.

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--On torsdag, juli 17, 2008 19.52.32 +0300 Anton Liaukevich
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I want to use "Russia" & "USA" keyboard layouts and switch them with
Ctrl+Shift. I had added "Russia" & "USA" to active layouts so that I
can
switch them with left-mouse-click in the tray. But I hadn't be able
to
find option for layout switching in "Keyboard Shortcuts" (excepting
for
"Switch to Next Keyboard Layout") applet of KDE Control Center.

For now I selected only "Russian" layout but turned on the checkbox
"Include lation layout" so that command for xkb became:
"setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout ru,us" and turned on the checkbox
"Ctrl+Shift change layout" in "Xkb Options" tab. After it I has been
able to switch language with Ctrl+Shift. Unfortunately, now I can't
see
current language in the tray that is very inconvenient.


Assuming we talk about the same applet, by default it switches on
Ctrl-Alt-k if I remember correctly.

// Emil




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Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Thu,17.Jul.08, 19:52:32, Anton Liaukevich wrote:

I want to use "Russia" & "USA" keyboard layouts and switch them with
Ctrl+Shift. I had added "Russia" & "USA" to active layouts so that I can
switch them with left-mouse-click in the tray. But I hadn't be able to
find option for layout switching in "Keyboard Shortcuts" (excepting for
"Switch to Next Keyboard Layout") applet of KDE Control Center.

For now I selected only "Russian" layout but turned on the checkbox
"Include lation layout" so that command for xkb became:
"setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout ru,us" and turned on the checkbox
"Ctrl+Shift change layout" in "Xkb Options" tab. After it I has been
able to switch language with Ctrl+Shift. Unfortunately, now I can't see
current language in the tray that is very inconvenient.


I'm not familiar with KDE, but you should be able to achieve the same by
using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. At the question about additional
options for the keyboard put:


grp:ctrl_shift_toggle

Regards,
Andrei

Hello, Andrei!

I have done that you had advised me, then added 'Russia' & 'USA' to
active layouts of 'Keyboard Layout' applet of KDE Control Center.
Unfortunately, language switching hasn't begun to work.


Settings of my keyboard in xorg.conf:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"
EndSection


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On Fri,18.Jul.08, 21:14:54, Anton Liaukevich wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:

> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
> Driver "kbd"
> Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
> Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
> Option "XkbLayout" "us"
------------------------------------------^^^^

Try changing this to "us,ru". You can also to it with dpkg-reconfigure
(the question about layouts to use).

Regards,
Andrei
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Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Fri,18.Jul.08, 21:14:54, Anton Liaukevich wrote:

Andrei Popescu wrote:



Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"

------------------------------------------^^^^

Try changing this to "us,ru". You can also to it with dpkg-reconfigure
(the question about layouts to use).


Regards,
Andrei


Thanks to Andrei Popescu & Cedric Boutillier!

Unfortunately, Andrei's solution with xorg.conf (XkbLayout & XkbOptions
options) hasn't helped me.


Therefore I have returned my old solution. I selected only "Russian"
layout but turned on the checkbox "Include lation layout" so that
command for xkb became:
"setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout ru,us" and turned on the checkbox
"Ctrl+Shift change layout" in 'Xkb Options' tab.


But I have founded option 'ScrollLock LED shows alternative layout' in
'Xkb Options' tab and turned it on (command became "setxkbmap -option
grp_led:scroll,grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"). Now ScrollLock LED is on when
current language is Russian and is off when current language is English.

Such solution suits me.


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