On Wed May 21 22:06, Michael Koch wrote:

> Debian supports only Java 5+ compatible runtimes in unstable.

Almost compatible

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35020 (amongst others)

Matt


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On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:17:13PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote:
> On Wed May 21 22:06, Michael Koch wrote:
>
> > Debian supports only Java 5+ compatible runtimes in unstable.
>
> Almost compatible
>
> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35020 (amongst others)

Thats a small bug that doesn't change the whole picture.


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Michael


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Hi,

Michael Koch said:
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:17:13PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote:
>> On Wed May 21 22:06, Michael Koch wrote:
>>
>> > Debian supports only Java 5+ compatible runtimes in unstable.
>>
>> Almost compatible
>>
>> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35020 (amongst others)
>
> Thats a small bug that doesn't change the whole picture.
But is really the whole picture that many java programs don't need to rely
on Sun's (or other certified) JRE to work properly? I try at regular
intervals and FreeMind and SimplyHTML still don't work properly with GCI;
we read recently that there were issues with Azureus.
So, I still think that we need to make the difference between free and
complete implementations, and the original issue, which wasn't answered,
is that the Java policy needs to be updated, and packages be adapted, best
before complete freeze.

Eric

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> Cheer,
> Michael
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Hi,

my email was the last one in the chain, but I don't consider it was a
conclusive one.

Thanks, Eric

Eric Lavarde - Debian said:
> Hi,
>
> Michael Koch said:
>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:17:13PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote:
>>> On Wed May 21 22:06, Michael Koch wrote:
>>>
>>> > Debian supports only Java 5+ compatible runtimes in unstable.
>>>
>>> Almost compatible
>>>
>>> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35020 (amongst others)
>>
>> Thats a small bug that doesn't change the whole picture.
> But is really the whole picture that many java programs don't need to rely
> on Sun's (or other certified) JRE to work properly? I try at regular
> intervals and FreeMind and SimplyHTML still don't work properly with GCI;
> we read recently that there were issues with Azureus.
> So, I still think that we need to make the difference between free and
> complete implementations, and the original issue, which wasn't answered,
> is that the Java policy needs to be updated, and packages be adapted, best
> before complete freeze.
>
> Eric


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Le 05.06.2008 01:33, Simon Slater a écrit :
| On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 19:31 +0200, François Patte wrote:
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|> Someone in Tahiti is scanning your computer.... No danger though!
| I need to learn more about regular security checks and firewalling
| before we get a DSL line. I spotted that IP, didn't know where it came
| from, but at the moment I don't know what is dangerous & what isn't.
| Any pointers to good reading?

http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Security-Quickstart-HOWTO/index.html

just open services you need and good firewall rules make a good security.

| Jun 5 09:27:01 ipex kernel: eth0: Setting promiscuous mode.
| Jun 5 09:27:01 ipex kernel: device eth0 entered promiscuous mode

Have you some "sniffer" running permanently on your computer?

|
| I closed down the browsers on the desktop to remove any extra traffic.
| This is typical of what happens when requesting the Internet from the
| laptop.

Can you simply ping some site from your laptop

ping google.com

and see what happens in the log on your desktop:

tail -f /var/log/messages

You will the logs while they are recorded in the messages file.

FP

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On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:06:22AM +0200, Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Michael Koch said:
> > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:17:13PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote:
> >> On Wed May 21 22:06, Michael Koch wrote:
> >>
> >> > Debian supports only Java 5+ compatible runtimes in unstable.
> >>
> >> Almost compatible
> >>
> >> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35020 (amongst others)
> >
> > Thats a small bug that doesn't change the whole picture.
> But is really the whole picture that many java programs don't need to rely
> on Sun's (or other certified) JRE to work properly? I try at regular
> intervals and FreeMind and SimplyHTML still don't work properly with GCI;
> we read recently that there were issues with Azureus.
> So, I still think that we need to make the difference between free and
> complete implementations, and the original issue, which wasn't answered,
> is that the Java policy needs to be updated, and packages be adapted, best
> before complete freeze.

I really think its much too late to make policy changes now and directly
apply them. The changes needed are just too big and too much for the
resources we have.

We need to tackle this in the beginning of the lenny+1 release cycle.


Cheers,
Michael


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