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Old 01-05-2012, 06:23 PM
Miguel Landaeta
 
Default Tomcat for Squeeze

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> wrote:
> currently there's Tomcat 6 and Tomcat 7 in Wheezy. Will 6 be dropped
> before the Wheezy relese? It would be good to only have one version
> in Wheezy.

I agree with this, I think the team should not commit to several years
more of tomcat6 maintenance.

What do you think?

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Old 01-05-2012, 06:44 PM
Tomasz Muras
 
Default Tomcat for Squeeze

On 05/01/12 19:23, Miguel Landaeta wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> wrote:
>> currently there's Tomcat 6 and Tomcat 7 in Wheezy. Will 6 be dropped
>> before the Wheezy relese? It would be good to only have one version
>> in Wheezy.
> I agree with this, I think the team should not commit to several years
> more of tomcat6 maintenance.
>
> What do you think?
>
Drop tomcat6.

Tomek


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Old 01-06-2012, 05:41 PM
Moritz Mühlenhoff
 
Default Tomcat for Squeeze

On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 02:53:41PM -0430, Miguel Landaeta wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> wrote:
> > currently there's Tomcat 6 and Tomcat 7 in Wheezy. Will 6 be dropped
> > before the Wheezy relese? It would be good to only have one version
> > in Wheezy.
>
> I agree with this, I think the team should not commit to several years
> more of tomcat6 maintenance.
>
> What do you think?

I agree that only having tomcat7 is the proper way forward for Wheezy.

Cheers,
Moritz


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Old 01-06-2012, 08:21 PM
tony mancill
 
Default Tomcat for Squeeze

On 01/05/2012 11:44 AM, Tomasz Muras wrote:
> On 05/01/12 19:23, Miguel Landaeta wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> wrote:
>>> currently there's Tomcat 6 and Tomcat 7 in Wheezy. Will 6 be dropped
>>> before the Wheezy relese? It would be good to only have one version
>>> in Wheezy.
>> I agree with this, I think the team should not commit to several years
>> more of tomcat6 maintenance.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
> Drop tomcat6.

I think that there are probably be a number of users who will still want
to run tomcat6 on wheezy (I'll probably be one of them), but agree that
the team is spread thin enough already.

I tried taking a look at the Tomcat website to see if there is some sort
of published roadmap regarding tomcat6, but I didn't really find
anything. Does anyone (James?) know if tomcat6 will be included in
Ubuntu 12.04LTS? That would ostensibly mean 5 years of support from
next April (and tomcat6 is already included in 10.04LTS, so that's
another 3+ years from now).

Anyway, the consensus seems to be to drop tomcat6 for wheezy. Maybe we
can put together a wiki page to refer users to either an unofficial
package or the Ubuntu package.

Cheers,
tony



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Old 02-02-2012, 10:43 AM
James Page
 
Default Tomcat for Squeeze

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Apologies for the extremely slow response on this one....

On 06/01/12 21:21, tony mancill wrote:
> On 01/05/2012 11:44 AM, Tomasz Muras wrote:
>> On 05/01/12 19:23, Miguel Landaeta wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Moritz Muehlenhoff
>>> <jmm@inutil.org> wrote:
>>>> currently there's Tomcat 6 and Tomcat 7 in Wheezy. Will 6 be
>>>> dropped before the Wheezy relese? It would be good to only
>>>> have one version in Wheezy.
>>> I agree with this, I think the team should not commit to
>>> several years more of tomcat6 maintenance.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>> Drop tomcat6.
>
> I think that there are probably be a number of users who will still
> want to run tomcat6 on wheezy (I'll probably be one of them), but
> agree that the team is spread thin enough already.

I agree.

>
> I tried taking a look at the Tomcat website to see if there is some
> sort of published roadmap regarding tomcat6, but I didn't really
> find anything. Does anyone (James?) know if tomcat6 will be
> included in Ubuntu 12.04LTS? That would ostensibly mean 5 years of
> support from next April (and tomcat6 is already included in
> 10.04LTS, so that's another 3+ years from now).

Tomcat upstream don't appear to be that good at publishing support
roadmaps. tomcat6 will be included in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS release as the
Canonical supported version and tomcat7 will be in universe and hence
will be community maintained (lol - that probably means me).

I was going to recommend switching versions for the next Ubuntu
release (Q) at the Ubuntu Developer Summit; I prefer to make major
version changes for established packages in non-LTS releases if possible.

> Anyway, the consensus seems to be to drop tomcat6 for wheezy.
> Maybe we can put together a wiki page to refer users to either an
> unofficial package or the Ubuntu package.

If Canonical are going to be providing support (inc. Security updates)
for tomcat6 in Ubuntu would it not be possible just to take security
updates as an when required? That would make it lighter weight to
retain in Debian.

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